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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8175 on: November 06, 2021, 04:06:01 AM »
HumbleGibissist still at it.

You leave out one crucial bit of information in your brand of FUD against ALTs. Not all ALTs are the same. They vary from being complete garbage to potentially being pillars in Web 3.0

Put effort into finding ALT projects worth hodling and any "timing of the market" and "selling for big gains" along the way is just a nice bonus.

BTC and ETH will never grow at the rates of some ALTs.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8176 on: November 06, 2021, 05:46:41 AM »
I agree with you. Yes, the vast amount of "projects" are alt scams, but I agree that some are legit and may add true value. The problem here is that almost no-one alt-trading values them for their project's calculated economic worth. In other words just because something provides value does not mean its current price is justified.  I've actually tried doing a calculation of value with UniSwap and Efinity. Both have a theoretical value that can be calculated, but there are so many factors in the mix that is almost impossible to calculate in practice.

With Bitcoin this dilemma is of course much easier, as its entire value is as a fundamental base layer store of wealth. The problem with the many "alt projects" that are not outright scams, is that there is a coin issued against the project which has its value ultimately tied to the success of the project it was issued for, (which in turn is extremely difficult to calculate). It is only a minute % of alt investors who would actually apply an economic valuation metric to an alt. Almost all simply look at "trading patterns", or base their decisions on ridiculous factors such as "the price is cheaper so I get more of them" or "it has a cool sounding name". Remember also that some protocols that are pillars of 3.0 may be widely adopted but essentially free. So don't be confused with functional use vs coin value on those either. Anyhow, good luck. Short term its all sentiment driven. Mark my words, you will learn an alt lesson in due course. (I am guessing this is your first time around in an alt cycle correct? If not, then ask yourself how many alts from the last cycle in 2018 are still around and talked about). Same thing will happen in 2025 as we look back on 2021... Wish you luck!

I held BTC and ETH during the 2018 cycle and then got back in ETH. I bought and held it on it's merits as a project until May this year. I'd say that worked out well. Back in on ETH. Added DOT and LRC.

Sure ALTS are overvalued. I've already alluded to that in an earlier post. You mention the dilemma and it being easier with Bitcoin, well taking profits along the way with ALTs makes the dilemma less of an issue.

You mention functionality use vs coin value. If you look at the 3 ALTs I mentioned, they have to varying degrees come up with solutions with regards to tying in coin value to functional use and more importantly introduced digital scarcity. As a bitcoin maxi you should be able understand how important that is.

Here is the thing regarding the retardedness of some of those involved in ALTs. A lot of people make a lot of money doing the things you mention. Sure it involves a huge element of luck, but why ignore this aspect of the market and leave money on the table? Why not stack the deck in your favour by also accounting for this?

Let's say 1 or 2 of the ALTs I mention pumped in a big way because of sentiment etc. Is that me getting lucky or me taking time to follow the project, look at developments, updates and eventually conclude the big announcements and releases would be made during what I perceived would be crypto bull market and that they would pump? Not all pumps are because of retards.. For every Shiba there is a Sol.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8177 on: November 07, 2021, 12:57:59 AM »
This may be of interest.

Efinity is the only alt I own, primarily due to technology and prospects really appealing to me. So for its done well for me, but I plan to hold long term. The development team behind this seem super strong from a technical depth perspective.

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/04/enjin-forms-100m-fund-to-support-metaverse-projects/?

https://app.pitch.com/app/public/player/5b8bd4e6-6537-4c7a-b8e4-b1afd8970f06/ecc519a7-6ace-4f8b-86ca-f3999bc93e47?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8178 on: November 07, 2021, 06:09:49 AM »

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8179 on: November 07, 2021, 08:20:56 AM »
This may be of interest.

Efinity is the only alt I own, primarily due to technology and prospects really appealing to me. So for its done well for me, but I plan to hold long term. The development team behind this seem super strong from a technical depth perspective.

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/11/04/enjin-forms-100m-fund-to-support-metaverse-projects/?

https://app.pitch.com/app/public/player/5b8bd4e6-6537-4c7a-b8e4-b1afd8970f06/ecc519a7-6ace-4f8b-86ca-f3999bc93e47?

It's a hodl that relies on DOT being successful so ...

@onemorerep. This may be of interest to you as Efinity is metaverse related.

Also a few weeks back when onemorerep posted regarding the metaverse and asked about any related alts to put money in, We did not have an answer for him. 2 weeks later a metaverse alt MANA pumped x4.

It doesn't matter if your main play is hodling btc, eth, alts or trading. Fact is we are all leaving easy money on the table by not knowing enough about the different ALT projects.

Efinity still looks like a great buy even after pumping x2 especially when you compare it to what Enjin has done recently.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8180 on: November 07, 2021, 01:19:33 PM »
It's a hodl that relies on DOT being successful so ...

@onemorerep. This may be of interest to you as Efinity is metaverse related.

Also a few weeks back when onemorerep posted regarding the metaverse and asked about any related alts to put money in. We did not have an answer for him. 2 weeks later a metaverse alt MANA pumped x4.

It doesn't matter if your main play is hodling btc, eth, alts or trading. Fact is we are all leaving easy money by not knowing enough about the different ALT projects.

Efinity still looks like a great buy even after pumping x2 especially when you compare to what Enjin has done recently.

SAND also pumped 150%

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8181 on: November 08, 2021, 03:33:09 PM »
BTC moving up! Go BTC!  ;D

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8182 on: November 08, 2021, 04:08:10 PM »
SAND also pumped 150%

I had a reasonable amount of SAND before the 5x move. I then moved 25% of it into DOGE.

BTC moving up! Go BTC!  ;D

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8183 on: November 09, 2021, 05:01:39 AM »
LRC up 600% for me. Hit my crypto targets and the bull run has barely started. Hodling the rest until it hits a possible 3000%.

Yes it's still a great buy IMO. 2 major announcements for the project have still not been announced. First one will make it a "Matic killer" and send it into top 20 cryptos. It eliminates high gas fees on ETH and is Buterin endorsed! Second one is a major retail partnership (gaming) that could send it top 10.

Don't say no one didn't tell you.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8184 on: November 09, 2021, 05:26:56 AM »
LRC up 600% for me. Hit my crypto targets and the bull run has barely started. Hodling the rest until it hits a possible 3000%.

Yes it's still a great buy IMO. 2 major announcements for the project have still not been announced. First one will make it a "Matic killer" and send it into top 20 cryptos. It eliminates gas fees on ETH and is Buterin endorsed! Second one is a major retail partnership (gaming) that could send it top 10.

Don't say no one didn't tell you.



I messed with LRC.  Watched it test 2.5 yesterday, then like an asshole got out at 2.03 and took profits.

Woke up and saw I was stupid.

But the 24/7 nature of the crypto market can be tiring.

Testing 2.5 today...you think it can run up?
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8185 on: November 09, 2021, 05:39:44 AM »
I messed with LRC.  Watched it test 2.5 yesterday, then like an asshole got out at 2.03 and took profits.

Woke up and saw I was stupid.

But the 24/7 nature of the crypto market can be tiring.

Testing 2.5 today...you think it can run up?

Yes.

The dips are just whales playing on market sentiment to steal 20% here and there from retail. It's not a bad thing either. Price consolidation like this is better for the long term future.

LRC won't crash. This is not a pump and dump coin. It's an actual utility coin with a future. It makes eth almost gas free so once the final version of the wallet is launched everyone will jump on it. This is due for launch very soon... Weeks if not days.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8186 on: November 09, 2021, 05:53:35 AM »
Read an interesting article on the Shiba Inu coin.  Some dude spent $13K and they say it's worth $5billion now but the wallet hasn't been touched or accessed in over 200 days.  I wonder if this person died or what.  Also if he want to cash it out, who would actually have the money to give him?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8187 on: November 09, 2021, 06:05:53 AM »
Read an interesting article on the Shiba Inu coin.  Some dude spent $13K and they say it's worth $5billion now but the wallet hasn't been touched or accessed in over 200 days.  I wonder if this person died or what.  Also if he want to cash it out, who would actually have the money to give him?

Last I heard that huge shiba wallet actually became active, so I guess that person is still alive.

They can't cash out all at once, price will crash, but some exchanges like kraken have a premium service where they can slowly cash out whales without causing a huge dip in price.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8188 on: November 09, 2021, 06:10:02 AM »
Yes.

The dips are just whales playing on market sentiment to steal 20% here and there from retail. It's not a bad thing either. Price consolidation like this is better for the long term future.

LRC won't crash. This is not a pump and dump coin. It's an actual utility coin with a future. It makes eth gas free so once the final version of the wallet is launched everyone will jump on it. This is due for launch very soon... Weeks if not days.

Thanks.

I've gotten familiar a bit watching crypto patterns and can see the whale market manipulation.

Starting to get the difference between alts with a purpose and just alts for the sake of alts.

I rebought today, wondering if I should go bigger.
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8189 on: November 09, 2021, 06:36:58 AM »
Thanks.

I've gotten familiar a bit watching crypto patterns and can see the whale market manipulation.

Starting to get the difference between alts with a purpose and just alts for the sake of alts.

I rebought today, wondering if I should go bigger.

This was the only crypto I was buying when I thought we were in a bear market. We are in a bull market now where everything goes up, so...

Don't watch the market. Go read everything on loopring twitter and daniel wang ceo twitter in the last 6 months. Then read the recent quarterlies and white paper. If that's too much work, just watch what Buterin has to say and then decide if you buy, sell or hold.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8190 on: November 09, 2021, 06:49:41 AM »
This was the only crypto I was buying when I thought we were in a bear market. We are in a bull market now where everything goes up, so...

Don't watch the market. Go read everything on loopring twitter and daniel wang ceo twitter in the last 6 months. Then read the recent quarterlies and white paper. If that's too much work, just watch what Buterin has to say and then decide if you buy, sell or hold.

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I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions man.
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8191 on: November 09, 2021, 07:37:36 AM »
I appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions man.

Don't forget my 50% cut  ;D

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8192 on: November 09, 2021, 07:47:30 AM »
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« Reply #8193 on: November 09, 2021, 09:39:53 PM »
While the FBI may have its hands on the founder of Silk Road’s bitcoin wallet, that doesn’t mean it has access to what's inside. Ross Ulbricht, despite his own self-incriminations as the mastermind behind the online black marketplace, was able to do one thing right: secure his bitcoins.

A reported 600,000 BTC belonging to Ulbricht is in the FBI’s hands. But they can’t access the bitcoin wallet because it is encrypted.
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8194 on: November 10, 2021, 07:38:40 AM »
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« Reply #8195 on: November 10, 2021, 09:06:38 AM »
While the FBI may have its hands on the founder of Silk Road’s bitcoin wallet, that doesn’t mean it has access to what's inside. Ross Ulbricht, despite his own self-incriminations as the mastermind behind the online black marketplace, was able to do one thing right: secure his bitcoins.

A reported 600,000 BTC belonging to Ulbricht is in the FBI’s hands. But they can’t access the bitcoin wallet because it is encrypted.

Are you sure it's 600K coins?  that's almost 3% of all bitcoin.

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« Reply #8196 on: November 10, 2021, 09:11:27 AM »
Are you sure it's 600K coins?  that's almost 3% of all bitcoin.

100%, multiple articles. Ill dig one up

heres what it says--I dont know what the commissions thing means, not my area

How many bitcoin did FBI seize from Silk Road?
Mr. Ulbricht, who operated Silk Road between 2011 and 2013, accepted bitcoin as a payment on his website. When federal officials arrested him in October 2013, they seized about 175,000 bitcoins but estimated that the website had generated commissions totaling more than 600,000 bitcoins.Nov. 5, 2020
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #8197 on: November 11, 2021, 04:25:13 PM »
LRC up 600% for me. Hit my crypto targets and the bull run has barely started. Hodling the rest until it hits a possible 3000%.

Yes it's still a great buy IMO. 2 major announcements for the project have still not been announced. First one will make it a "Matic killer" and send it into top 20 cryptos. It eliminates high gas fees on ETH and is Buterin endorsed! Second one is a major retail partnership (gaming) that could send it top 10.

Don't say no one didn't tell you.



Upgrading this to LRC being a top 5 and possibly top 3 coin at some point in the next 6 to 24 months (pending deployment of upgrades)

Matic will also be fine, but will become something different (polygon Hermez)

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« Reply #8198 on: November 11, 2021, 04:27:16 PM »
Upgrading this to LRC being a top 5 and possibly top 3 coin at some point in the next 6 to 24 months (pending deployment of upgrades)

Matic will also be fine, but will become something different (polygon Hermez)

Bought back in in the 2.5 range, saw the spike, been wondering if to go in heavier.

Think it will go sub 3 again?

When you say top 3, you mean another mainstay like BTC / ETH, right?  Not necessarily price?

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« Reply #8199 on: November 11, 2021, 04:46:10 PM »
Bought back in in the 2.5 range, saw the spike, been wondering if to go in heavier.

Think it will go sub 3 again?

When you say top 3, you mean another mainstay like BTC / ETH, right?  Not necessarily price?

Price held and was green when the rest of the market crashed yesterday. Up, I'm looking at $7.5 to $10 in the next few weeks if the market doesn't take another hit. There is no point looking at short time prices though. This is a long term play.

Yes top 3, after btc and eth.

LRC makes most of the other blockchains in the top 10 redundant. Ethereum is great, but it's slow and expensive. Other blockchains like bnb and sol offer an alternative. They are faster and cheaper but are not as decentralised and as secure as Eth.

LRC is built on top of Eth in a way that keeps all the decentralisation and security and adds speed and lowers gas fees. Transactions are a 1000 times faster and gas fees are in the cents. It makes no sense for people to use centralized block chains if LRC (in combo with ETH) works as a solution. This is the solution VladB is backing long term. That's why I see it becoming a top 3-5 crypto. There are other things it can do, but for now this is the most important.