Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.

[_aj_]

Vince, your thread title suggested that Roof "posted on Getbig". Can you post a link to his thread or his reply?

TIA.

[bigmc]

Oh really, genius? Every crime has a solution in your simple little world? How about rape? What's your solution there, smart guy? Vehicular homicide? The world when viewed through your tiny little lens must be quite simple indeed.

aj

to commit a crime you need

the opportunity

the means

and the mindset

take out one of these and bingo it doesn't happen

in this case the gun was the means

its that simple

I appreciate your ingrained right to bear arms mindset

in this instance the access to the firearm was a huge factor

there is no counter argument

[_aj_]

aj

to commit a crime you need

the opportunity

the means

and the mindset

take out one of these and bingo it doesn't happen

in this case the gun was the means

its that simple

I appreciate your ingrained right to bear arms mindset

in this instance the access to the firearm was a huge factor

there is no counter argument

I disagree to an extent. There are ample studies in the U.S. and UK that show that decrease in firearm availability does nothing to the overall violent crime rate. Since we are in the realm of hypotheticals anyway, i posit he could have run over the folks with his car in the parking lot. He chose the most expedient tool for his goal, not the only tool available.

In addition, his goal was to start a race war. By choosing a handgun as his tool, he insures that again, the most politically and culturally explosive Pandora's Box will be opened. Thus increasing the chances of his preferred outcome. Perversely, the progressive left is marching to his tune because it fits with their world narrative.

[bigmc]

I disagree to an extent. There are ample studies in the U.S. and UK that show that decrease in firearm availability does nothing to the overall violent crime rate. Since we are in the realm of hypotheticals anyway, i posit he could have run over the folks with his car in the parking lot. He chose the most expedient tool for his goal, not the only tool available.

and there it is

I guess your mindset which is prevalent in your country

means that guns are here to stay

so are the mass shootings then

every freedom carriers a price

[_aj_]

every freedom carriers a price

I guess that's the difference between us mentally enfeebled Yanks and our ennobled betters in the UK and EU. We understand that there is a price to be paid for freedom. You've so long ago become accustomed to your chains that you see them as a badge of honor.

[thegamechanger]

i think big guns should be outlawed

anything over 15 inch arms

why? because theyre stronger and help in choking etc

[pedro01]

I guess that's the difference between us mentally enfeebled Yanks and our ennobled betters in the UK and EU. We understand that there is a price to be paid for freedom. You've so long ago become accustomed to your chains that you see them as a badge of honor.

Yet US is nowhere nears the most "free" country in the world.

It's just something that Americans bandy about in ignorance of how much more freedom they would enjoy elsewhere in the world.

[Parker]

Yet US is nowhere nears the most "free" country in the world.

It's just something that Americans bandy about in ignorance of how much more freedom they would enjoy elsewhere in the world.

We get to carry guns, legally. We get to speak out against our politicians, religious leaders, and most importantly, sue at will.

[SF1900]

Yet US is nowhere nears the most "free" country in the world.

It's just something that Americans bandy about in ignorance of how much more freedom they would enjoy elsewhere in the world.

x2.

Americans have been brainwashed into actually believing they are "free."   They think because they can buy a gun, that they are more "free" than other countries. This is what politicians have brainwashed them into believing. That, as long as you have your guns, nothing else matters. Politicians keep people happy by letting them have their guns, while keeping them enslaved and chained in MANY other ways. But as long as they have their gun, who cares about anything else!!

[Parker]

x2.

Americans have been brainwashed into actually believing they are "free."   They think because they can buy a gun, that they are more "free" than other countries. This is what politicians have brainwashed them into believing. That, as long as you have your guns, nothing else matters. Politicians keep people happy by letting them have their guns, while keeping them enslaved and chained in MANY other ways. But as long as they have their gun, who cares about anything else!!

Guns, guns, more guns...
Big guns, little guns, guns as big as your head.

Obama is probably biggest gun salesman in history.

[SF1900]

We get to carry guns, legally. We get to speak out against our politicians, religious leaders, and most importantly, sue at will.

They can do that in Europe, too. In fact, they do a lot better job at speaking out against their politicians and religious leaders than Americans do.

[SF1900]

Guns, guns, more guns...
Big guns, little guns, guns as big as your head.

Obama is probably biggest gun salesman in history.

I never said it was a democrat or republican thing. Its a "gun" thing. Americans are so blinded, that if you keep them preoccupied with one thing (let them have their gun), they forget all the other issues. Its like giving a 4-year old a really shiny, loud toy to keep them occupied for a few hours.

[_aj_]

I never said it was a democrat or republican thing. Its a "gun" thing. Americans are so blinded, that if you keep them preoccupied with one thing (let them have their gun), they forget all the other issues. Its like giving a 4-year old a really shiny, loud toy to keep them occupied for a few hours.

Strange. Do you feel the same way about the cost of your freedom of speech? Or would you cast that too distainfully on your pyre of righteousness? Oh wait, you already want to, you just call it "hate speech"

[Parker]

They can do that in Europe, too. In fact, they do a lot better job at speaking out against their politicians and religious leaders than Americans do.

well, uh...people have killed or tried to assassinate some of ours. But, in GB they have some extreme forms of tolerance
Such as that guy who basically is recruiting for ISIS
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/recruiting-for-isis-60-minutes-2/

They also are going thru a similar situation that we are with our illegal immigration situation.

I never said it was a democrat or republican thing. Its a "gun" thing. Americans are so blinded, that if you keep them preoccupied with one thing (let them have their gun), they forget all the other issues. Its like giving a 4-year old a really shiny, loud toy to keep them occupied for a few hours.

Of course it's not a repub or dem thing...

Yep...it's like that with "entertainment"---reality tv, porn, crappy music (look at all the awards shows), selfies, Sports---NBA Finals, Super Bowl, World Series...distractions abound.

The Romans knew this with Gladiator spectacles. As the Empire fell apart, they kept up the Gladiatoral events to keep the public's mind off of more important things.

[SF1900]

Strange. Do you feel the same way about the cost of your freedom of speech? Or would you cast that too distainfully on your pyre of righteousness? Oh wait, you already want to, you just call it "hate speech"

Calm down, grandpa. I don't want to do away with anyone's rights. They are all important.

The thing is that for gun nutters, once you give them their shiny toys (guns) they forget about everything else. Hell, Ive known people to vote for someone based on ONE fact--do they support gun rights or not. No other issue mattered. Yes, great strategy for picking the most effective leader.

I was over my friends house and I gave their 1 year old a really loud, shiny toy. Occupied for hours. Thats like a gun nutter. Give them a gun, and they are occupied forever, totally blind about anything else that matters.

[robcguns]

You're really trolling today aren't you.....

i dont troll

[The Abdominal Snoman]

In America,the blacks fight will be against the Mexican's not the whites. The problem the blacks will have is the Mexican's are "guilt free".  Blacks won't be able to pull the guilt card. Mexican's already have a plan in place that for every Mexican killed by a black, they will take out that blacks entire bloodline.

[Parker]

In America,the blacks fight will be against the Mexican's not the whites. The problem the blacks will have is the Mexican's are "guilt free".  Blacks won't be able to pull the guilt card. Mexican's already have a plan in place that for every Mexican killed by a black, they will take out that blacks entire bloodline.

Ah, Mexicans imported slaves as well...

[tommywishbone]

looks like a militant Lloyd Christmas.

HAHAHAHA!    .   Excellent

[_aj_]

Calm down, grandpa.

 

[The Ugly]

x2.

Americans have been brainwashed into actually believing they are "free."   They think because they can buy a gun, that they are more "free" than other countries. This is what politicians have brainwashed them into believing. That, as long as you have your guns, nothing else matters. Politicians keep people happy by letting them have their guns, while keeping them enslaved and chained in MANY other ways. But as long as they have their gun, who cares about anything else!!

I always hear this, and I'm probably just ignorant, but what freedoms do the Euros enjoy that we don't?

I know UK is pretty strict with "Hate Speech." Only a couple countries there have legalized cannabis, and we have probably as many decriminalized/legal states now to even that out. Obviously, few there have gun rights, but we're dismissing that one. 'Death with Dignity' (assisted suicide), we got three states now; Europe has five, so got us there.

Free enterprise? Is it easier to start a business in Europe, free from government regulation and taxation? I know we're getting worse and worse in this area, but we still got Texas.

Or are we twisting the definition to mean more access to "free" social services (at the expense of the oppressed taxpayer)? Wealthy Europeans have been relocating to the U.S. and elsewhere for years to escape those particular "freedoms."

Is it age of consent or drinking? What makes Europeans freer, serious question.

[James28]

I guess that's the difference between us mentally enfeebled Yanks and our ennobled betters in the UK and EU. We understand that there is a price to be paid for freedom. You've so long ago become accustomed to your chains that you see them as a badge of honor.

Mentally enfeebled sounds harsh but if the shoe fits ....

I've only been living in NZ for just over a year and only found out on Saturday that you legally buy guns here. It's not bandied around as election promises for dimwitted drones. Nor can I recall hearing or reading about mass shootings, the likes of what seems to happen weekly in the U.S.

BUT, we can agree on this, it ain't the guns. It's the people. There's something up with the yanks that makes them trigger happy.

[James28]

Sounds just like a getbigger. He would've fit right in with the getbig likes of Kwon_2, James28, Woten, Groink, Archer77, The Ugly, Overload, Ron, musclegirl, True Adonis, newmom, and 95 percent of everybody else.

I love watching you cry about being black 

[SF1900]

I always hear this, and I'm probably just ignorant, but what freedoms do the Euros enjoy that we don't?

I know UK is pretty strict with "Hate Speech." Only a couple countries there have legalized cannabis, and we have probably as many decriminalized/legal states now to even that out. Obviously, few there have gun rights, but we're dismissing that one. 'Death with Dignity' (assisted suicide), we got three states now; Europe has five, so got us there.

Free enterprise? Is it easier to start a business in Europe, free from government regulation and taxation? I know we're getting worse and worse in this area, but we still got Texas.

Or are we twisting the definition to mean more access to "free" social services (at the expense of the oppressed taxpayer)? Wealthy Europeans have been relocating to the U.S. and elsewhere for years to escape those particular "freedoms."

Is it age of consent or drinking? What makes Europeans freer, serious question.

You missed the point.

[The Ugly]

You missed the point.

Well played.