Dylan Roof's Website...The Last Rhodesian.

[Twaddle]

[Tapeworm]

Why did this scholar call it The Last Rhodesian? 

[_aj_]

Why did this scholar call it The Last Rhodesian? 

Rhodesia was a white apartheid state until 1980 when the Mugabe regime took over and renamed it Zimbabwe.

It's apparently somewhat of a rallying cry for white supremacists. I am guessing because of the current horrors the remaining white population in Zimbabwe are subjected to.

[DroppingPlates]

Arguing with a gun nutter is like arguing with a religious person. Religious people have their god, gun nutters have their guns, and you can't tell either group anything. They are both extremely stringent in their thinking.

Ha, this is so true

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Vince, your thread title suggested that Roof "posted on Getbig". Can you post a link to his thread or his reply?

TIA.

His manifesto is very similiar to another person who posted crap year.  Ron banned that person and deleted all of his stupid thread.  However, there's no telling as to whether they were one in the same as accounts are anonymous. 

We will know for sure once the authorities search his computer and browser history as he prob lurked around here.

[_aj_]

Ha, this is so true

 

Of course there is nothing that the beatific enlightened "progressives" feel a religious enthusiasm for, is there? Think hard! I will give you a hint: Al Gore is your Pope.

[Tapeworm]

Seems weird to associate your cause with something that happened long before you were born in a British colony on the other side of the world that you've never visited and aren't from.  That'd be a British colony there.  British colony kicking out the British.

I'm saying: If you're going to go kill a bunch of black people then just man the fuck up and call your web page I Hate These Goddamned Black People.  There's no need for all the sleuthy vagina language after a certain point.  When you find you're plotting a mass public murder then it's time to leave the niceties behind.

Babar Goes To Church, this guy.  "He was the most polite gunman I've ever been murdered by."

[SuperTed]

His manifesto is very similiar to another person who posted crap year.  Ron banned that person and deleted all of his stupid thread.  However, there's no telling as to whether they were one in the same as accounts are anonymous. 

We will know for sure once the authorities search his computer and browser history as he prob lurked around here.

What he wrote in his manifesto is similar to what's written by thousands of white nationalists across the net. It was nothing that unique really.
There are a couple of posters here who hold similar views but to varying degree's.

[SuperTed]

Seems weird to associate your cause with something that happened long before you were born in a British colony on the other side of the world that you've never visited and aren't from.  That'd be a British colony there.  British colony kicking out the British.

I'm saying: If you're going to go kill a bunch of black people then just man the fuck up and call your web page I Hate These Goddamned Black People.  There's no need for all the sleuthy vagina language after a certain point.  When you find you're plotting a mass public murder then it's time to leave the niceties behind.

I think he knew his manifesto would become widely read once the attack took place so wanted it to be thoughtful and detailed as opposed to just a hateful rant.
The white populations in SA and Rhodesia tend to be viewed romantically among many white racialists due to their strong convictions, racial awareness, traditional values and defiance.

[SF1900]

Of course there is nothing that the beatific enlightened "progressives" feel a religious enthusiasm for, is there? Think hard! I will give you a hint: Al Gore is your Pope.

You can tell the similarities between you and MOS and Tbombz. Very similar personalities, just geared toward different nutty passions. 

[_aj_]

You can tell the similarities between you and MOS and Tbombz. Very similar personalities, just geared toward different nutty passions. 

I like MOS, but comparing me to the Bombz is throwing-hands words!

[SF1900]

I like MOS, but comparing me to the Bombz is throwing-hands words!

This is why I said it goes beyond a cultural thing. Has a lot to do with personality. This gun debate is eliciting very similar personality styles that we see in Tbombz when discussing religion and discussing guns with you.

[Tapeworm]

I think he knew his manifesto would become widely read once the attack took place so wanted it to be thoughtful and detailed as opposed to just a hateful rant.
The white populations in SA and Rhodesia tend to be viewed romantically among many white racialists due to their strong convictions, racial awareness, traditional values and defiance.

Yeah, they're overreaching.  A lot of the africans I've met are bunged up people with big chips on their shoulders.  Always with the cock measuring and the pissing contest, these guys.  Who knows why.  Africans.  They're worse than the Scottish like that.  In a class of their own.  And they don't give a fuck about what's happening in the US.  Displaced, butthurt, and full of un-stoic whining - this is the modern white african.

Besides, if someone really wanted to glorify the white colonialists of Africa, it's presumptuous to compare the causes.  I doubt there are Zulu tribes charging down out of the hills of South Carolina and only The Regiment's sinew, Michael Caine, and a line of rifled muskets stands between them and immanent, bloody death.  These guys are eating Cheetos in their underwear and posting on the internet.  Fuck 'em.

[_aj_]

On the 2nd Amendment and the desire for repeal, this is a worthwhile read: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420126/second-amendment-not-responsible-easy-gun-access

[Voice of Doom]

The gun debate ultimately falls down to the right of self defense.  The gun is only a tool but a tool that greatly equalizes men and women to each other and to the apparatus of the state.  It's because of this reason that elites and those in authority have heavily controlled the availability of guns to the masses.  This was especially true in England where to own a firearm during the 18th and 19th century could be punishable by jail or death.  The aristocracy was fearful that the lower classes owning guns was a threat to their "natural right to rule".  Guns were often handed out to the people when they were needed to die in an aristocrat's war but then quickly collected after.  The masses are allowed to die for the elites but not to challenge them.

The American Revolution started not from the tea tax (as public indoctrination centers tell you) but from a stamp tax being rendered across all purchases.  To not use the tax stamp on products could be punishable by death (sound familiar?)

When the American's revolted and refused to pay the stamp tax the British moved their army in to disarm the people because they knew they couldn't enforce the tax against an armed population.  British General Gage sent troops to Charleston and Boston to take control of the powder storages and to confiscate arms.  They used warrantless searches into people's businesses and stationed British troops in the city and American's home.  Americans were often paraded in front of mockery courts, tried for sedition and hanged if they were suspected of owning or storing firearms.
(Any of this making sense as to why the first 5 rights are specifically spelled out in the Bill of Rights?)

Over this arms embargo local and state militias began to form and start fighting back by taking over munitions and gunpowder facilities.  On April 19th 1775 the British set out to take control of ammunition factories at Lexington and Concord...and the rest is history.

Guns are a tool of self-defense.  Whether that's an intruder in your home, a robber while you're walking the street or a government overstepping its Constitutional authority.  Guns will never go away but if you disarm the people you give them no chance to resist tyranny.  Many disarmed populations have been walked to genocide in the past few centuries...don't ever forget that.

That's what the gun debate boils down to.  You either believe that self-defense is an inherent human right or you don't.  If you don't then you believe that humans are simply tax paying cattle that exist at the State's pleasure.  And if you believe that there's no helping you.

[_aj_]

Gun laws in the UK aren't that bad. Providing you have a legitimate reason for owning a shotgun or rifle, like hunting or living in the countryside for example, then you can apply for one. As long as you don't have a history of being a psycho and you've suitable storage for it then it's fairly straightforward.

What about a pistol? A self-feeding rifle (semi-automatic)?

Or is the "right" in the UK simply for double-barrel shotguns and single shot .22 rifles?

[Thick Nick]

Sounds just like a getbigger. He would've fit right in with the getbig likes of Kwon_2, James28, Woten, Groink, Archer77, The Ugly, Overload, Ron, musclegirl, True Adonis, newmom, and 95 percent of everybody else.

You left me out... I am touched.

[_aj_]

This is one i'm going to stay out of and just observe, AJ. I like to keep things light-hearted round these parts!

OK.  

[2Thick]

Gold's Gym tank top = bodybuilding related.

Media will now blame steroids for his killing spree.

Yeah, they'll be calling him a "bodybuilder" and say he was juicing to build those epic 11" farmer-tanned cannons.

[Thick Nick]

I love reading these anti gun threads. All the hippie go free frees get all up in arms but convieniently forget the common link in 100% of these cases. I'll get back to that...

See some shooters are black, some white, some about religion, some about race etc. Some use guns, some use knives, etc.

But why is it that someone with a gun, a grievance, and a target DOESN'T go on a shooting rampage?

 Let's be honest using this example... All white men get upset seeng stupid white whores banging these animals... Right? And a lot have guns... Why isn't this happening every day?

Because there is a very thin line between sanity and insanity...so what causes some people, no matter their perceived grievance to cross the line?

Prescription medications... And more specifically stopping the use of anti depressants. 100% of mass shootings... Every single one... Going back to when this started (Columbine? Prior?) 100% of the shooters have been on pharmaceuticals or recently stopped taking their medication.

But the hippy go free frees don't blame the actual common link... Because liberal guilt says "awww if someone is on anti depressants they must need help, or be in pain... Don't blame the drugs... Blame the weapon of choice."

Aj is right... Someone pushed over the line will use what is available.. A gun is just the most effective method. Banning guns but ignoring the drug link will simply make stabbings rise... Or road rage... You name it.

And oh yeah SF1900... You are so dumb is causes me physical distress. Lucky for you I don't take anti depressants because I'd stop taking them just for you.

[2Thick]

Anyone who shoots up a bunch of innocent people is a piece of shit and shout be treated harshly.....regardless of their race.

There are a lot of nuts in the world it seems.

Agreed. If he had actually done a Bernie Goetz or Paul Kersey and shot individuals who actually picked him or his family to harm and done them harm, I'd feel differently. But since that apparently isn't the case, he should be punished accordingly.

And idiots like this give the Al Sharptons of the world a bit of an illusion of legitimacy, unfortunately. They can point to this guy as an example of why we white people are all so evil, and some will continue to believe their bullshit.

[2Thick]

What is the solution proposed by the right wing nutjobs?

I don't know, but while your sorry liberal ass is actually outside the prison crying and protesting his fate on the night of his execution, a so-called "right wing nutjob" is inside the prison giving him his comeuppance... while this "right wing nutjob" is in my nice home or a nice drinking establishment having another Crown Royal to celebrate as I watch Julie Banderas or Harris Falkner announce his death in a breaking news segment. 

[2Thick]

aj

to commit a crime you need

the opportunity

the means

and the mindset

take out one of these and bingo it doesn't happen

in this case the gun was the means

its that simple

I appreciate your ingrained right to bear arms mindset

in this instance the access to the firearm was a huge factor

there is no counter argument

What if he had a bomb? Poison? A Mack Truck?

How are you going to take the guns away from those who obtain them illegally or stop them from buying them illegally in the first place?

[_aj_]

I've noticed an interesting trend arguing any politically charged subject on Getbig, but it's especially pronounced with the "gun debate". The conversations with the various anti-gun players (usually BigMC, SF1900, and some others) usually take the form of this:

[Anti-gun Getbigger]: "Well, what do you have to say for [insert statistic here]?"
_aj_: "[Responds to statistic, offers rebuttal, asks counter-question]"
[Anti-gun Getbigger]: "See? You just can't talk to these 'gun nutters'!"

If you look at this thread, you'll see at least 3 separate instances of this cheese meta-"debate" method. It's very similar to Godwin's Law regarding the immediate use of Nazi analogies to "win" an online debate.

I am sure that it must feel great to tell yourself you've "won" that round by immediately calling your debate opponent insane and walking away, but it real life, it really doesn't work that way

[andreisdaman]

The fact is that gun nutters really CANT be talked to...they don't want to look at the startling statistics of gun violence compared to Australia, Britain, Japan, and other supposedly civilized countries