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10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« on: June 26, 2015, 09:48:18 AM »
Read it...it's the law...correction...until today it was the law.

*The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.* - See more at: http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment10.html#sthash.GBHYZIBl.dpuf

30 of our States have had elections pertaining to what constitutes a marriage and between a man and a woman won out. That became law as protected by the 10th Amendment ....that is until today. Rather than interoperating the law the Supreme Court made the law (a Congressional responsibility).  

I could give a rats azz about who marries whom...not my issue.

We now have an Imperial President with an Imperial Court. I have always feared this be it Looney Right Wingers or Stupid Socialists...the latter being our current state of affairs.

A weakened States Rights will eventually impact you and me. Gun ownership, religion choice or not, neighborhood choice, travel, the car you drive, your choice of food, water, medicine, supplements, and booze you drink....all in danger as long as citizens are walking around with their heads in a cloud and  Ipad/pod half way up their ass.








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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2015, 09:49:48 AM »
The 10th has been a dead-letter since the inception of the federal highway program.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2015, 09:52:01 AM »
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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 09:52:56 AM »
Bro, the Constitution has been dead for a while.  It's the beginning of the end.  Enjoy.
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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 09:55:39 AM »
Yes AJ you are correct to a point. However I believe that Congress amended the 10th not the Imperial..er, I mean Supreme Court.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 10:06:52 AM »
And Wiggs you could also be correct. We could soon become very Euro Left in our makeup. HUGE International Megalith Corporations, (bigger than now), huge taxes (bigger than now), massive Socialism, weakened Defense,  wide open borders, a Mommy State riddled with terrorists attacks. The US Flag replaced by one designed by the UN, and no more right of assembly unless its a Gov. sponsored affair.

We could all wallow in the mire as warm and fuzzy equals where all exceptualism is squashed as selfish and evil.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2015, 10:10:04 AM »
If the so-called "terrorists" wanted to hurt the US as much as possible they would have flown those planes into nuclear reactors.  Not to buildings which don't matter.
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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2015, 10:11:24 AM »
White atheist societies -the white race- are neutering , feminizing and mecanizing themselves at a high rate while being flooded by third worlders. We re nearing extinction.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2015, 10:13:05 AM »
White atheist societies -the white race- are neutering , feminizing and mecanizing themselves at a high rate while being flooded by third worlders. We re nearing extinction.

Just 2 months ago, you were saying how much you hated religion and were an atheist. Now youre back to being a theist. But just 8 months ago you were a die-hard theist. Make up your mind, troll.
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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2015, 10:16:01 AM »
And Wiggs you could also be correct. We could soon become very Euro Left in our makeup. HUGE International Megalith Corporations, (bigger than now), huge taxes (bigger than now), massive Socialism, weakened Defense,  wide open borders, a Mommy State riddled with terrorists attacks. The US Flag replaced by one designed by the UN, and no more right of assembly unless its a Gov. sponsored affair.

We could all wallow in the mire as warm and fuzzy equals where all exceptualism is squashed as selfish and evil.

 This is going to happen.  Let's not forget about TPP.
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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2015, 10:21:46 AM »
Yes AJ you are correct to a point. However I believe that Congress amended the 10th not the Imperial..er, I mean Supreme Court.

The 10th was never amended by Constitutional methods. It was chipped away by the expanding state and never checked by the courts. It became ipso facto moot.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2015, 11:08:21 AM »
Yes AJ you are correct to a point. However I believe that Congress amended the 10th not the Imperial..er, I mean Supreme Court.

Good point.  Compared to a legal scholar like you, what would the supreme court know about the constitution?

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2015, 11:39:51 AM »
I "believe" (the operative word I also used above) that the FHA operates not as an exception/correction as I mis-spoke of  to the 10th but under the Commerce Clause. Don't make my aging brain explode...my last class on the Constitution was over 50 years ago. Clarifications are always accepted. Mocking is always discounted.

The Interstate Commerce Clause is a provision that is included in the United States Constitution and is formally known as the Commerce Clause. Contained within Article I, Section 8, the Commerce Clause is intended to give Congress the power to regulate all commerce and trade at the international level, as well as in certain applications at the state level.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2015, 11:51:54 AM »
Bro, the Constitution has been dead for a while.  It's the beginning of the end.  Enjoy.



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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2015, 11:55:50 AM »
Long live all homos !!!!!!!

Holland was the first country in the world to legalize homo marriage.........

Let everybody be happy, what's the problem??

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2015, 12:09:25 PM »
This post has morphed as they always do. OK The US Constitution is for this discussion null and void....including Free Speech (unless you wish to keep that one) lets replace it with?? Certainly not Sharia Law, they hang or stone gays, the CRF?, Weimer Constitution, Article of the UN, Constitution of Cuba, a hybrid of all the above except no stoning/hanging LGTGs?  And NO STATES RIGHTS and State radification. What is good for Berkley Ca. is good for Ft. Worth Tx. Right?

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2015, 12:18:37 PM »
Good point.  Compared to a legal scholar like you, what would the supreme court know about the constitution?

Isn't that the real problem Howard? The Constitution  and it's amendments  are established  for the individual  as well as the collective  nation. It wasn't intended to be a complicated  document.


That said we are way past  the original  ideology  and there's no going back.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2015, 12:47:04 PM »
Isn't that the real problem Howard? The Constitution  and it's amendments  are established  for the individual  as well as the collective  nation. It wasn't intended to be a complicated  document.

The Constitution is a legal document describing the structure and composition of a nation.

The first Ten Amendments (The "Bill of Rights") are purely individual rights. The "collective nation" has zero "rights" defined in the Constitution. As a matter of fact, the Bill of Rights could be considered negative rights for the federal government. The proper reading of the Bill of Rights is not that they bestow said right on the individual, but that the individual has these natural rights endowed by their Creator. And the Bill of Rights are a list of things that the federal government absolutely cannot fuck with.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2015, 01:00:59 PM »
The Supreme Court today declared that gay couples have a right to marry anywhere in America in a 5-4 ruling. In what Politico calls a "rare occurrence," each of the four dissenters penned their own dissent. Here's what they wrote:

    John Roberts: "If you are among the many Americans—of whatever sexual orientation—who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today’s decision. Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits. But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

    Antonin Scalia: "I write separately to call attention to this Court’s threat to American democracy. ... It is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. ... This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves."
    Clarence Thomas: "Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away. The majority’s musings are thus deeply misguided, but at least those musings can have no effect on the dignity of the persons the majority demeans."
    Samuel Alito: "Today’s decision will also have a fundamental effect on this Court and its ability to uphold the rule of law. If a bare majority of Justices can invent a new right and impose that right on the rest of the country, the only real limit on what future majorities will be able to do is their own sense of what those with political power and cultural influence are willing to tolerate. Even enthusiastic supporters of same-sex marriage should worry about the scope of the power that today’s majority claims. Today’s decision shows that decades of attempts to restrain this Court’s abuse of its authority have failed."
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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2015, 01:02:19 PM »
Its too bad they didn't have ^ this attitude towards a just as destructive government action.  The "Patriot" Act.
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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2015, 01:12:28 PM »
The Supreme Court today declared that gay couples have a right to marry anywhere in America in a 5-4 ruling. In what Politico calls a "rare occurrence," each of the four dissenters penned their own dissent. Here's what they wrote:

    John Roberts: "If you are among the many Americans—of whatever sexual orientation—who favor expanding same-sex marriage, by all means celebrate today’s decision. Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits. But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it."

    Antonin Scalia: "I write separately to call attention to this Court’s threat to American democracy. ... It is not of special importance to me what the law says about marriage. It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today’s decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court. ... This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves."
    Clarence Thomas: "Slaves did not lose their dignity (any more than they lost their humanity) because the government allowed them to be enslaved. Those held in internment camps did not lose their dignity because the government confined them. And those denied governmental benefits certainly do not lose their dignity because the government denies them those benefits. The government cannot bestow dignity, and it cannot take it away. The majority’s musings are thus deeply misguided, but at least those musings can have no effect on the dignity of the persons the majority demeans."
    Samuel Alito: "Today’s decision will also have a fundamental effect on this Court and its ability to uphold the rule of law. If a bare majority of Justices can invent a new right and impose that right on the rest of the country, the only real limit on what future majorities will be able to do is their own sense of what those with political power and cultural influence are willing to tolerate. Even enthusiastic supporters of same-sex marriage should worry about the scope of the power that today’s majority claims. Today’s decision shows that decades of attempts to restrain this Court’s abuse of its authority have failed."


Just yesterday, Roberts was using flowery language to explain why he rewrote a statue because of the "good intentions" of the authors. So I am less inclined to listen to today's discourse on his Constitutional jurisprudence right now. He needs to up his meds.

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2015, 01:45:29 PM »
It is simple:  14 > 10

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2015, 04:44:40 PM »
Isn't that the real problem Howard? The Constitution  and it's amendments  are established  for the individual  as well as the collective  nation. It wasn't intended to be a complicated  document.


That said we are way past  the original  ideology  and there's no going back.

I don't think we need to bring back slavery, but every since the bitches got to vote in 1920, it's been going downhill.

Just sayin' :D

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Re: 10th Amendment-United States Constitution
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2015, 05:46:59 PM »
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