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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2015, 09:37:16 AM »
Vince can you address Rumors that Aaron and TJ are haemorrhaging cash?

The loss of most of their BSL Products and shitty protein powder are plummeting sales.

Prime nutition is doing worse: http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582

And their latest FAILED business venture is a protein shake shop.


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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2015, 10:44:40 AM »
Vince can you address Rumors that Aaron and TJ are haemorrhaging cash?

The loss of most of their BSL Products and shitty protein powder are plummeting sales.

Prime nutition is doing worse: http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582

And their latest FAILED business venture is a protein shake shop.




Vince will spin it but they are not doing well. Like many supplement companies they came out of the gate fast, they got on bb.com, into Vitamin Shoppe and there was buzz because they were the new company but now their product is not turning well. They have not distinguished themselves in any way.

I talk to a lot of distributors on a regular basis and their product is not moving. Several of their athletes have left them as well.
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2015, 12:40:03 PM »
Vince can you address Rumors that Aaron and TJ are haemorrhaging cash?

The loss of most of their BSL Products and shitty protein powder are plummeting sales.

Prime nutition is doing worse: http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582

And their latest FAILED business venture is a protein shake shop.




Its not of your business but what you say just simply isn't true
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2015, 12:44:43 PM »

Vince will spin it but they are not doing well. Like many supplement companies they came out of the gate fast, they got on bb.com, into Vitamin Shoppe and there was buzz because they were the new company but now their product is not turning well. They have not distinguished themselves in any way.

I talk to a lot of distributors on a regular basis and their product is not moving. Several of their athletes have left them as well.


Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products.  Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them.  If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else.  No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business

Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website.  So your statements hold no water
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2015, 12:46:26 PM »

Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products.  Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them.  If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else.  No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business

Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website.  So your statements hold no water

You continue to prove that you have no idea how the supplement industry works
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2015, 01:20:02 PM »
Wait...

So a synthetic drug candidate from Merck (their product "MK-ULTRA") and another synthetic drug candidate from GTx Pharmaceutical are "not illegal"? Those Blackstone products are illegal. Period. Selling those unapproved new drug candidates as supplements is as illegal as it gets.


Any comment on this, Vince?  Do you stand by your opinion that they're not selling anything illegal?

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2015, 01:21:48 PM »
Does anyone here give a rats ass ?

You seem obsessed with these guys


Nope,i sure as shit dont.

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2015, 01:45:40 PM »
I'll just leave this here:

http://www.ironmagazine.com/2015/prime-nutrition-innovators-or-copycats/

Oh SHIIIIIIIIT

no suprises here: between the two of them there isn't more than 3 neurons

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2015, 08:35:28 PM »
Come on, everybody knows that the business was based on selling legal drugs through a loop hole.

Now that the loop hole is closed, all of these types of companies are going to start to disappear.

Why would anyone buy creatine & whey from these guys?

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2015, 09:32:37 PM »

Vince will spin it but they are not doing well. Like many supplement companies they came out of the gate fast, they got on bb.com, into Vitamin Shoppe and there was buzz because they were the new company but now their product is not turning well. They have not distinguished themselves in any way.

I talk to a lot of distributors on a regular basis and their product is not moving. Several of their athletes have left them as well.

Leave Jason Genova out of this.

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2015, 04:27:59 AM »

Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products.  Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them.  If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else.  No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business

Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website.  So your statements hold no water
how come the other 40+brands on BB.com ranked before prime have no troubles doing well?
And Vince how do u feel for being responsible for destroying prime's image and reputation on here? U are solely responsible for destroying the company image. U alone congrats!!
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2015, 06:41:14 AM »

Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products.  Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them.  If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else.  No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business

Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website.  So your statements hold no water

Jesus Christ we have some dumb sons of bitches on Getbig

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2015, 07:21:12 AM »

Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products.  Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them.  If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else.  No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business


This is where you make it abundantly clear that you have no idea who to run a successful business.

It's their job to make, market, advertise & everything else related to their products.

It is NOT the job of a distributor to market or advertise a product.

The end is near, as the company made their impact selling legal drugs & now that loop hole is closing in fast & they have to try & sell regular supps & they just can't compete in that area.

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2015, 12:32:02 PM »
This is crazy news!  I'm glad you posted the case schedule so I can follow it that much closer!  This is gonna be a hoot of a summer!

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2015, 12:45:07 PM »
CNN is blowing up with this news now.

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2015, 05:28:33 PM »
Oh boy....you guys are as dumb as hell about things..... ::)
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2015, 05:45:32 PM »
Oh boy....you guys are as dumb as hell about things..... ::)

We sure are. No one knows the inside out of how a successful business is run like Melvin Goodrum.

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2015, 04:09:00 AM »
Any new updates?





06-12 STIPULATION Extending Time to Answer the complaint as to Blackstone Labs, LLC answer now due 7/22/2015, re Complaint (Attorney Civil Case Opening),1 filed by defendant Blackstone Labs, LLC.(Attorney Daniel Scott Silverman added to party Blackstone Labs, LLC(pty:dft))(Silverman, Daniel)

06-18  PROOF OF SERVICE Executed by Plaintiff IronMag Labs, LLC, upon Defendant Blackstone Labs, LLC served on 6/1/2015, answer due 7/22/2015. Service of the Summons and Complaint were executed upon Aaron Singerman - Agent for Service of Process in compliance with California Code of Civil Procedure by substituted service at business address and by also mailing a copy. Original Summons returned. (Adams, Michael)

07-21 STIPULATION to Change Venue to the Southern District of Florida Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. Section 1404(a) filed by defendant Blackstone Labs, LLC.(Silverman, Daniel)

07-22 ORDER TRANSFERRING VENUE TO THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA PURSUANT TO 28 U.S.C. 1404(a)by Judge S. James Otero (MD JS-6. Case Terminated.) (lc)

07-23 REPORT ON THE DETERMINATION OF AN ACTION Regarding a Patent or Trademark. (Closing) (lc)

07-24 RECEIVED Notice of Receipt of Electronic Case Transfer from California Central: case has been opened in Southern District of Florida as case 9:15-cv-81036.


New case number

Case Number: 9:15-cv-81036
Court: Florida Southern
Nature of Suit: Trademark

08-10 ~Util - Set/Reset Hearings, Order Referring Case to Judg

08-20 Order on Motion to Appear Pro Hac Vice, Order on Motion to Appear Pro Hac Vic



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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2015, 04:47:36 AM »
I tried to arrange a truce in the matter but to no avail.  The case is proceeding and because its in litigation, no-one is going to comment on it until its done.  It will be completed somewhere in late 2017
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2015, 04:48:11 AM »
I tried to arrange a truce in the matter but to no avail.  The case is proceeding and because its in litigation, no-one is going to comment on it until its done.  It will be completed somewhere in late 2017

You're no Harley, that's for damned sure.
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2015, 04:53:14 AM »
You're no Harley, that's for damned sure.


Aaron is going to wish he spoke to Harley.  He's my dawg but if he hadn't told Joe to go fuck himself, there would have been no lawsuit. 
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2015, 06:06:02 AM »

Aaron is going to wish he spoke to Harley.  He's my dawg but if he hadn't told Joe to go fuck himself, there would have been no lawsuit. 

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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2015, 06:11:14 AM »
You're no Harley, that's for damned sure.
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Re: Lawsuit: Iron Mag Labs vs Blackstone Labs for Trademark Infringement
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2015, 06:19:59 AM »
Oh boy....you guys are as dumb as hell about things..... ::)

So you're actually trying to tell people they are dumb for pointing out the obvious logical problem with your argument?

To suggest that a manufacturer can relax and simply manufacture is ridiculous.  It doesn't work that way.  The manufacturer has to be active in all aspects of their business and if the distributor is not selling units, it most definitely IS a problem for the manufacturer.