Author Topic: "The Gift" Phil Heath VS. "The Sultan of Symmetry" Flex Wheeler (Read 7034 times)

Wiggs · « **on:** July 07, 2015, 03:44:16 PM »

At their best. IMO Flex's best was the 98 Arnold. (Other's may argue 93 Arnold or 99 Olympia) Phil's best IMO was 2013. He even said it himself.

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It's two different quality physiques. Flex looks like granite carved into a perfect shape. His posing is miles ahead of Heath. He's just better. Phil looks bloofy. Call it 3d or whatever, Flex Wheeler is killing Phil here. Phil outweighs Flex here by about 15 lbs. Not a problem for Flex who regularly beats people with his shape. Flex weighed 232 for this show. Phil weighed in the mid 240s in 2013. Let's not forget that Flex who has no Sandows will always be better than Phil who has 4 Sandows. Flex is just better.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2015, 03:45:19 PM »

No comparison , Flex is one of the most exceptional bodybuilders of all time.

Wiggs · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2015, 03:53:58 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 07, 2015, 03:45:19 PM

No comparison , Flex is one of the most exceptional bodybuilders of all time.

Got the ND thumb of approval. Not looking good for Phil. Affeman's opinion does count. Paid agent of Phil's.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2015, 03:56:32 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on July 07, 2015, 03:53:58 PM

Got the ND thumb of approval. Not looking good for Phil. Affeman's opinion does count. Paid agent of Phil's.

lol He's the same guy who claimed Flex had a ' wide waist ' lol

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2015, 03:56:33 PM »

The problem with Flex is that his physique was half oil. It takes away from his greatness IMO.

hardgainerj · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2015, 03:58:25 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 07, 2015, 03:56:33 PM

The problem with Flex is that his physique was half oil. It takes away from his greatness IMO.

if there is cheating in the 'sport' of bb its definitely synthol

Royalty · « **Reply #6 on:** July 07, 2015, 04:05:45 PM »

Unfortunately for Flex; in bodybuilding, the only thing that really counts is winning the Olympia. That's the litmus test.

Sergio, Arnold, Haney, Yates, and Coleman all found a way to win it.

Wheeler's best chance was in 1997, and he pissed it all away with the ninja bullshit. That was his time. He blew it.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #7 on:** July 07, 2015, 04:09:13 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on July 07, 2015, 04:05:45 PM

Unfortunately for Flex; in bodybuilding, the only thing that really counts is winning the Olympia. That's the litmus test.

Sergio, Arnold, Haney, Yates, and Coleman all found a way to win it.

Wheeler's best chance was in 1997, and he pissed it all away with the ninja bullshit. That was his time. He blew it.

He had a great shot in 94 , he was the runner-up the previous year was outstanding. But the accident ruined that.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #8 on:** July 07, 2015, 04:16:27 PM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 07, 2015, 03:56:33 PM

The problem with Flex is that his physique was half oil. It takes away from his greatness IMO.

Even 93 ASC?

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #9 on:** July 07, 2015, 04:19:37 PM »

Quote from: hardgainerj on July 07, 2015, 03:58:25 PM

if there is cheating in the 'sport' of bb its definitely synthol

I don't really have a huge problem with it if it only looked "real". Once you can tell a bb
has shot oil it becomes ugly.

Quote from: Grape Ape on July 07, 2015, 04:16:27 PM

Even 93 ASC?

No, later on. Like 98 being quoted as his best, well there was so much oil use it's hard to say
it was his best shape IMO.

Whatever Phil Heath has shot in his arms for example it isn't obvious in the same way it was obvious in Flex.

Royalty · « **Reply #10 on:** July 07, 2015, 04:20:31 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on July 07, 2015, 04:09:13 PM

He had a great shot in 94 , he was the runner-up the previous year was outstanding. But the accident ruined that.

The accident was his fault too. A night of debauchery & drunkeness. Speeding home at v-e-r-y excessive speeds, and causing a one car accident. He sabotaged himself yet again.

oldschoolfan · « **Reply #11 on:** July 07, 2015, 04:25:12 PM »

93 asc version of flex wheeler would smoke any version of phil heath.

flex competed against, dorian, ronnie, levrone, ray, dillet, el sonbaty, aron baker,

heath competes against bloated clowns like kai , and big ramy

no fucking comparison here

falco · « **Reply #12 on:** July 08, 2015, 05:44:38 AM »

They are so different it's hard to believe they are both hebrews.

Ronnie Rep · « **Reply #13 on:** July 08, 2015, 06:19:02 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 07, 2015, 03:56:33 PM

The problem with Flex is that his physique was half oil. It takes away from his greatness IMO.

Oil or not Flex is better than Phil. Flex did not start using oil till 98.

bigmikecox · « **Reply #14 on:** July 08, 2015, 09:50:52 AM »

In 98 Flex was PERFECT!!!! He looked like he had no skin at all

Parker · « **Reply #15 on:** July 08, 2015, 09:58:06 AM »

Quote from: Royalty on July 07, 2015, 04:20:31 PM

The accident was his fault too. A night of debauchery & drunkeness. Speeding home at v-e-r-y excessive speeds, and causing a one car accident. He sabotaged himself yet again.

Damn Dr. Dre parties...

bigmikecox · « **Reply #16 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:01:55 AM »

Quote from: Parker on July 08, 2015, 09:58:06 AM

Damn Dr. Dre parties...

The Chronic son!

bigmikecox · « **Reply #17 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:03:43 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on July 07, 2015, 03:56:33 PM

The problem with Flex is that his physique was half oil. It takes away from his greatness IMO.

Everybody used it. Calves, delts, arms. It wasn't a big secret. Look at Darrem's calves, Dilletts delts, Victor's calves.

Disgusted · « **Reply #18 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:09:51 AM »

You can't compare these guys. Bodybuilding today is all about GH and Slin. Back then these guys were just starting to dabble in that stuff. Phil in all honesty wouldn't have a prayer against ANYONE who used the same drug protocol today. Hany Dillett Ray Levrone Wheeler and so on, all would be characters of their former selves.

Tennisballz · « **Reply #19 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:29:43 AM »

Flex has a way more symmetrical build than Phil and I bet anyone on the street who doesn't follow bodybuilding at all would pick flex. For me, flex is definitely a top physique of all time.

millineum man · « **Reply #20 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:09:18 PM »

Flex would destroy Heath. PERIOD!

wes · « **Reply #21 on:** July 09, 2015, 01:47:19 AM »

Not a gut in sight!!

Flex was awesome........no comparison.

nzmusclemonster · « **Reply #22 on:** July 09, 2015, 01:58:10 AM »

Wiggs account should be deleted for comparing Cheath to flex

gtbro1 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2015, 08:41:35 PM »

What year was he at 0.0% body fat?

hardgainerj · « **Reply #24 on:** July 29, 2015, 08:47:56 PM »