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Deadlift: Over-rated?
« on: July 15, 2015, 06:05:52 PM »
I started a new routine about 5 weeks ago that was all free weights, no cables or machines. The results have been great. I've always done deadlifts sporadically, but have been doing them twice a week lately. Last nights workout was 495 for '9 reps across 3 sets, not God-like numbers, but decent.

Most "serious" lifters are really vocal about deadlifts being the king of exercises. I don't know... I feel like my deadlift gains don't translate to other exercises.  When my barbell row increases, so do chinups and biceps exercises. When my shoulder press increases, so does chest. I noticed I was at a sticking point with deadlifts and I got past that sticking point by increasing my squat. I don't feel like deadlifts helped my squats. 

Before starting this routine, I would notice that if I went a few workouts skipping deadlifts but getting in solid workouts on other exercises, my deadlift numbers stayed stable( I don't try to max out, my current of 495 for reps is the highest I've ever regularly lifted). If I focused on deadlifts for a few workouts, my chinup would feel weaker and I was handling less weight on barbell rows. 

Anybody else feel like deadlifts are overrated, or at the very least, they aren't effective for you?

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2015, 06:12:38 PM »
Pointless exercise

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2015, 06:13:37 PM »
I started a new routine about 5 weeks ago that was all free weights, no cables or machines. The results have been great. I've always done deadlifts sporadically, but have been doing them twice a week lately. Last nights workout was 495 for '9 reps across 3 sets, not God-like numbers, but decent.

Most "serious" lifters are really vocal about deadlifts being the king of exercises. I don't know... I feel like my deadlift gains don't translate to other exercises.  When my barbell row increases, so do chinups and biceps exercises. When my shoulder press increases, so does chest. I noticed I was at a sticking point with deadlifts and I got past that sticking point by increasing my squat. I don't feel like deadlifts helped my squats. 

Before starting this routine, I would notice that if I went a few workouts skipping deadlifts but getting in solid workouts on other exercises, my deadlift numbers stayed stable( I don't try to max out, my current of 495 for reps is the highest I've ever regularly lifted). If I focused on deadlifts for a few workouts, my chinup would feel weaker and I was handling less weight on barbell rows. 

Anybody else feel like deadlifts are overrated, or at the very least, they aren't effective for you?

Overrated for bodybuilding purposes. Of course a must for anything else.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2015, 06:16:30 PM »
you have to be careful because you'll tax your nervous system and throw the other stuff off

that would be a "rookie mistake" though.  

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2015, 06:19:30 PM »
Overrated for bodybuilding purposes. Of course a must for anything else.
Lol...how little you know

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2015, 06:21:34 PM »
Lol...how little you know

I LOVE a good training debate....let's debate. You start.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2015, 06:25:25 PM »
I LOVE a good training debate....let's debate. You start.

Joe, why do you give these gimmicks the pleasure?

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2015, 06:26:22 PM »
I LOVE a good training debate....let's debate. You start.
Debate? You post an asinine statement and you expect me to debate you? Lol

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2015, 06:28:26 PM »
Overrated for bodybuilding purposes. Of course a must for anything else.
Even for power- which is why I switched it up- I feel like they aren't really doing  that much. I mean, obviously, it's better than just sitting on my couch and it takes strength to move plates, but I don't feel like my gains in that exercise have affected my other lifts.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2015, 06:31:28 PM »
When I don't deadlifts for an extended period; my lower back develops low-grade pain & nagging injuries.


Re-introducing deadlifts completely remedies the problem.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2015, 06:39:07 PM »
The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2015, 06:40:46 PM »
Even for power- which is why I switched it up- I feel like they aren't really doing  that much. I mean, obviously, it's better than just sitting on my couch and it takes strength to move plates, but I don't feel like my gains in that exercise have affected my other lifts.
Simply means you don't know how to lift weights and you don't know what to eat.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2015, 06:42:08 PM »
Think it's better for athletes than bb'ers. They tax the CNS too much when you could save that output for rowing and pulling movements that actually target the back much better.

But being able to deadlift 3plates for 10 easy reps often does equate a strong real life person and that can transfer over to the other lifts.

Not a fan of the thickening of the waist either caused by them, for my needs, I feel they're not needed.
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2015, 06:42:50 PM »
The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain

The people that have back problems usually only have that problem because they don't deadlift.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2015, 06:43:34 PM »
Think it's better for athletes than bb'ers. They tax the CNS too much when you could save that output for rowing and pulling movements that actually target the back much better.

But being able to deadlift 3plates for 10 easy reps often does equate a strong real life person and that can transfer over to the other lifts.

Not a fan of the thickening of the waist either caused by them, for my needs, I feel they're not needed.
Need to change the name of this site to Getsmall.com. WTF???

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2015, 06:44:43 PM »
Need to change the name of this site to Getsmall.com. WTF???

why do you say that?
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2015, 06:46:49 PM »
why do you say that?

Threads explaining why you shouldn't deadlift, threads saying don't squat, don't bench...threads about black Hebrews and other strange things...are you a bodybuilder or not?

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2015, 06:47:31 PM »
The people that have back problems usually only have that problem because they don't deadlift.
Yeah if I stop my lower back gets weak.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2015, 06:50:26 PM »
Threads explaining why you shouldn't deadlift, threads saying don't squat, don't bench...threads about black Hebrews and other strange things...are you a bodybuilder or not?

Deads are for powerlifters.
Mostly...

Can benefit bb'ers but it depends on that person's shape/structure. If you squat, maybe doing deads is not needed, so that's why I doN't wanna throw in any blanket statements.

I think deads are good for newbs to be taught hard work. If they can get to 4 plates a side, it shows they're ready to put in work and that is worth something. But will it pay off for the ulitmate body?

Not always is what I'm trying to say.
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2015, 06:51:57 PM »
The people that have back problems usually only have that problem because they don't deadlift.

For the longest time, I avoided regularly deadlifting because I was afraid of potential back injury,but for some reason they do help with back discomfort. During my second back session, my back was hurting from standing shoulder presses, but I stubbornly continued on with heavy deadlifts. I was convinced I was going to snap some shit up, but the pain had decreased by the end of that workout.


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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2015, 06:53:54 PM »
Threads explaining why you shouldn't deadlift, threads saying don't squat, don't bench...threads about black Hebrews and other strange things...are you a bodybuilder or not?

So, you feel like deads are an effective bodybuilding exercise?

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2015, 07:01:29 PM »
The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain

3.) phaggot ass bitches


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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2015, 07:03:06 PM »
So, you feel like deads are an effective bodybuilding exercise?

Do you really think that your going to engage in an actual training discussion with that tired gimmick? Good Lord, why do you bother?

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2015, 07:05:59 PM »
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2015, 07:08:13 PM »
3.) phaggot ass bitches



So I take it you don't do them?
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