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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #75 on: July 16, 2015, 02:52:35 PM »
Wow thats a lot of bicep volume
How are they responding to it?
Must get some great arm pumps

Great, honestly. I don't take weekly measurements or anything, but I can SEE improvement and I have had doms almost every workout with this routine, which I rarely used to get with arms.

Bare in mind, I'm doing really short rest periods (30 seconds max, shorter if I feel it), so arm workout usually takes about a half hour and back workout usually takes about that, maybe a little more.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #76 on: July 16, 2015, 02:59:40 PM »
Deadlifts are phenomenal.. but like squats I think there is a significant percentage of the population that cannot do them or the risk of doing them outweighs the benefits.

Personally.. all lower back issues disappear for me when I am doing them regularly, and it has always been my strongest compound movement.  If you don't enjoy them, just fuck off and do something else... same as any other exercise.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #77 on: July 16, 2015, 03:09:39 PM »
If you don't enjoy them, just fuck off and do something else... same as any other exercise.

The issue is not whether or not they are "enjoyable", but whether or not they are actually worth doing. As I've stated a few times, my biggest issue is that strength gains on deadlift don't really seem to carry over to other exercises. The deadlift is considered the gold standard by so many serious lifters that I was interested in getting some thoughts on it. 

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #78 on: July 16, 2015, 03:13:55 PM »
The issue is not whether or not they are "enjoyable", but whether or not they are actually worth doing. As I've stated a few times, my biggest issue is that strength gains on deadlift don't really seem to carry over to other exercises. The deadlift is considered the gold standard by so many serious lifters that I was interested in getting some thoughts on it. 


The statement still stands.. you feel they are not worth doing?  Cool, who gives a shit.  Don't do them.  Focus your efforts elsewhere on lifts that you feel are more productive for you.  A lot of people think lunges are great but they hurt my knees, so I avoid them.  Same principle applies here.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2015, 03:17:10 PM »
dont know about overrated but they are considered a gay excercise so that part is kinda hard to get around

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2015, 03:25:50 PM »
The statement still stands.. you feel they are not worth doing?  Cool, who gives a shit.  Don't do them.  Focus your efforts elsewhere on lifts that you feel are more productive for you.  A lot of people think lunges are great but they hurt my knees, so I avoid them.  Same principle applies here.

I'm not even sure what to say to this. I wanted to get some other points of view, to see if and why someone may have a different perspective.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2015, 03:32:57 PM »
If you're intentional about it you can improve your bench by deadlifting.  Somebody probably already said that though.
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2015, 03:34:35 PM »
If you're intentional about it you can improve your bench by deadlifting.  Somebody probably already said that though.

deadlifts also cure hang nails if periodized properly.
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2015, 03:35:03 PM »
deadlifts also cure hang nails if periodized properly.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2015, 03:40:25 PM »
If you're intentional about it you can improve your bench by deadlifting.  Somebody probably already said that though.

I said this earlier, but when my shoulder press increases it has an effect on my bench. When my bicep exercises increase, it has an effect on things like rows and chinups, for example. With deadlifts, I don't notice strength increases anywhere else. I notice that I can get past deadlift sticking points by increasing squats, but I don't feel like the reverse is true.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #85 on: July 16, 2015, 04:06:28 PM »
I said this earlier, but when my shoulder press increases it has an effect on my bench. When my bicep exercises increase, it has an effect on things like rows and chinups, for example. With deadlifts, I don't notice strength increases anywhere else. I notice that I can get past deadlift sticking points by increasing squats, but I don't feel like the reverse is true.

I would stick with it.

my feeling is you should get stronger pressing and rows should improve too. If not perhaps the deadlift is going up because of technique improvements and not just strength...hmm?
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2015, 07:23:22 PM »
I have gone from fucking 10s to fucking 1s and 2s because of deadlifts, so don't tell me that shit dont work.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2015, 07:32:47 PM »
I have gone from fucking 10s to fucking 1s and 2s because of deadlifts, so don't tell me that shit dont work.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2015, 08:53:58 PM »
The deadlift is about as good as it gets, not to mention variations like stiff legs and snatch grips. If you cant transition the strengthening of your entire posterior chain, not to mention your core and grip strength into other aspects or exercises that says more about your inefficiency as lifter more so than anything.

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2015, 09:07:31 PM »
:D  ???  :D  ???

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #90 on: July 17, 2015, 04:57:19 AM »
The deadlift is about as good as it gets, not to mention variations like stiff legs and snatch grips. If you cant transition the strengthening of your entire posterior chain, not to mention your core and grip strength into other aspects or exercises that says more about your inefficiency as lifter more so than anything.

You sound massive!!!

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #91 on: July 17, 2015, 05:15:53 AM »
I have gone from fucking 10s to fucking 1s and 2s because of deadlifts, so don't tell me that shit dont work.
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #92 on: July 17, 2015, 05:26:35 AM »
You sound massive!!!

A lot of Getbiggers have lots of massive words. Their words are huge!

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #93 on: July 17, 2015, 05:47:33 AM »
Deadlifts are phenomenal.. but like squats I think there is a significant percentage of the population that cannot do them or the risk of doing them outweighs the benefits.

Personally.. all lower back issues disappear for me when I am doing them regularly, and it has always been my strongest compound movement.  If you don't enjoy them, just fuck off and do something else... same as any other exercise.

best answer in thread!!!! Agree 100%

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #94 on: July 17, 2015, 05:59:51 AM »
A lot of Getbiggers have lots of massive words. Their words are huge!

Yes aj!!! I can only begin to imagine how huge their words would be if they decided to dabble in some prosehormones!!!!

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #95 on: July 17, 2015, 06:10:44 AM »
Yes aj!!! I can only begin to imagine how huge their words would be if they decided to dabble in some prosehormones!!!!

Well played, sir!

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #96 on: July 17, 2015, 06:11:09 AM »
deadlift is my fav exercise, i don't care if it help or not for other exercise, but heavy deadlift give me the confidence that i can tear apart everybody in a street fight.
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #97 on: July 17, 2015, 06:20:42 AM »
deadlift is my fav exercise, i don't care if it help or not for other exercise, but heavy deadlift give me the confidence that i can tear apart everybody in a street fight.

Please take me from point A ("deadlift') to point B ("tearing apart everybody in a street fight"). Are there magic Miyagi moves to be found in the ritualistic lift-up! put-down! movement?

I am pretty sure that being good at the DL translates into exactly one thing: being good at the DL.

Sometimes I do them, sometimes I don't. They hold no magic pull on me (see what I did there?)

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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #98 on: July 17, 2015, 06:24:02 AM »
Yes aj!!! I can only begin to imagine how huge their words would be if they decided to dabble in some prosehormones!!!!

Junior tried that, but grabbed the nosehormones by accident.
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Re: Deadlift: Over-rated?
« Reply #99 on: July 17, 2015, 06:37:08 AM »
DL is dumb you can have great form but then back will tweak
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