Pilot refuses to let Obama board until he honors Marine

[Coach is Back!]

Good for the pilot..

https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/766286366832713/

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Joe, you'd fall for anything.  The president is not required to return a salute and if a pilot even so much as questioned him, he would have faced a court martial and thrown out of the military.... its something that Reagan started for political reasons.  

In any event, Obama came back down on his own to shake the man's hand and apologize for not acknowledging him even though there was no reason to do so.  Both Bushes, Clinton, and ironically Reagan have forgotten many times to do their little salute.  Its was stupid to begin with because the general rule is that you have to be IN A MILITARY UNIFORM!!

[SF1900]

Joe, you'd fall for anything.  The president is not required to return a salute and if a pilot even so much as questioned him, he would have faced a court martial and thrown out of the military....its something that Reagan started for political reasons. 

In any event, Obama came back down on his own to shake the man's hand and apologize for not acknowledging him even though there was no reason to do so.  Both Bushes, Clinton, and ironically Reagan have forgotten many times to do their little salute.  Its was stupid to begin with because the general rule is that you have to be IN A MILITARY UNIFORM!!

Yes, it seems strange that a pilot would order the President a command.

Is this even allowed?

Serious question.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Yes, it seems strange that a pilot would order the President a command.

Is this even allowed?

Serious question.

Giving an order to the Commander in Chief is career suicide.  Only a complete fool would fall for that story. 

[forillagorilla]

Joe, you'd fall for anything.  The president is not required to return a salute and if a pilot even so much as questioned him, he would have faced a court martial and thrown out of the military....its something that Reagan started for political reasons.  

In any event, Obama came back down on his own to shake the man's hand and apologize for not acknowledging him even though there was no reason to do so.  Both Bushes, Clinton, and ironically Reagan have forgotten many times to do their little salute.  Its was stupid to begin with because the general rule is that you have to be IN A MILITARY UNIFORM!!

Actually you are incorrect. The President is CIC which means that no matter WHAT he is wearing it is his "uniform".  Vince I will give you a business tip. You will never have success in business with liberal fiscal ideology. Period. Please come back in retort pointing out Buffet and Gates. They may - now - espouse " class-guilt" but they sure as hell behave as conservatives.

Do not mistake conservative with Republican. Two VERY different things.

Obama is a buffoon. There is no thinking man on Earth that disagrees in his heart. Many will use him for their agenda and of course will use liberal policy to control the slaves. It's amazing that conservatives freed the black man and have fought for his equality - yet the liberals have fooled the minority into enslaving themselves.  It's pretty simple - what has the Democrat party done for the minority? All welfare programs do is indenture the recipient. Blacks should be offended by Sharpton  

[LurkerNoMore]

I typed Coach into my GPS and got his location.

Cue in his usual "lib response" reply.

[Al Doggity]

Actually you are incorrect. The President is CIC which means that no matter WHAT he is wearing it is his "uniform".

No, he's correct. On top of that, this practice of the president saluting soldiers is something that only started with Reagan. It is not official protocol.

[Competitor 9]

No, he's correct. On top of that, this practice of the president saluting soldiers is something that only started with Reagan. It is not a official protocol.

He's correct, the POS is not in the military there for he does not have to salute

[forillagorilla]

No, he's correct. On top of that, this practice of the president saluting soldiers is something that only started with Reagan. It is not a official protocol.

The President does not have to be in uniform to salute. I never said he was required to and I am well aware that this is a very recent "tradition"..
In the Corps we salute when your cover is on.

[Competitor 9]

The President does not have to be in uniform to salute. I never said he was required to and I am well aware that this is a very recent "tradition"..
In the Corps we salute when your cover is on.

The army is the only one that dosnt have to be covered to salute

[forillagorilla]

He's correct, the POS is not in the military there for he does not have to salute

He does not have to salute. However -as much as I find this POTUS to be a weak - confused - and quite a few other adjectives - I would find it unsat for anyone in the military to disrespect him. It's is not the man we salute its the office... You are incorrect however as the military COC clearly ends with the POTUS at the top.

[Al Doggity]

The President does not have to be in uniform to salute. I never said he was required to and I am well aware that this is a very recent "tradition"..
In the Corps we salute when your cover is on.

The President is not in the corps. Earlier poster never said you have to be in uniform to salute, he said that there was no reason he should be expected to salute.

[forillagorilla]

The army is the only one that dosnt have to be covered to salute

I thought those nasty lil doggies did that!!  JUST JOKES. I have met some hardcore soldiers and have respect for all that put on a uniform.

[Marty Champions]

I Give a fuck

[240 is Back]

Good for the pilot..

https://www.facebook.com/rondwyersettingtherecordstraight/videos/766286366832713/

This story is 2 years old.  I thought nobody knew if obama realized it himself, or someone from his team told him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330575/Those-fly-dont-salute-Obama-skips-returning-military-salute-walks-past-uniformed-Marine-boarding-helicopter.html

Where did you get the idea that "the pilot refused to fly until he saluted"?

Did you make that part up?

[forillagorilla]

The President is not in the corps. Earlier poster never said you have to be in uniform to salute, he said that there was no reason he should be expected to salute.

What we have here is a failure to communicate... Lol.   I do not see how you could possibly think any of my posts infer that the president is a member of the Corps???  I move a little fast but was simply EXPANDING on the fact that in the Corps - unlike a soldier as NM pointed out - one must not only be in uniform but also covered...

I stated nothing implying that the POTUS was obligated to return salute. I stated that simply by holding the position of CIC the President is always "in uniform" ... It's a military mindset - I assumed anyone that served would catch that. Vince made the implication that the POTUS should never salute as he was not military nor in uniform..

None of my posts addressed whether he should have or shouldn't...

[Competitor 9]

He does not have to salute. However -as much as I find this POTUS to be a weak - confused - and quite a few other adjectives - I would find it unsat for anyone in the military to disrespect him. It's is not the man we salute its the office... You are incorrect however as the military COC clearly ends with the POTUS at the top.

He can be in the top coc and not be in the military. Like how of the head of the Cia or Dia can be either civilian or military.  I'm not completely on the know how it works at that level, but I know it's possible

Ps you also render salutes/honors to secretry of state, defense, congress and state representative   

[Rudee]

Bullshit.

[Coach is Back!]

This story is 2 years old.  I thought nobody knew if obama realized it himself, or someone from his team told him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2330575/Those-fly-dont-salute-Obama-skips-returning-military-salute-walks-past-uniformed-Marine-boarding-helicopter.html

Where did you get the idea that "the pilot refused to fly until he saluted"?

Did you make that part up?

1. Who give a fuck how old it is? He's a disrespectful little prick who can give two shits about our military. He's proven that time and time again.

2. Where did I say the pilot wouldn't FLY? Although it would be nice if he got about 500ft up and shoved him out.

[forillagorilla]

He can be in the top coc and not be in the military. Like how of the head of the Cia or Dia can be either civilian or military.  I'm not completely on the know how it works at that level, but I know it's possible

Ps you also render salutes/honors to secretry of state, defense, congress and state representative   

You are correct that the COC does contain civilians but I always understood that POTUS was different. I could be 100% wrong and if so then I learned something. If that is the case then toss a few of my points right the fuck out the window. I think it's time to hit the rack before I waste another half hour arguing a false position!!   Lol.  Carry on

[240 is Back]

2. Where did I say the pilot wouldn't FLY?

YOUR LINK DID!

"The pilot refused to let President Obama board until he honored the Marine"

LOL So did the thread title.   WTF?


Look up the story.  The headline and the text at the FB link you posted are both incorrect.  The actual news story from the White House press corps, which was actually there, and the pilot did no such thing.

[Al Doggity]

What we have here is a failure to communicate... Lol.   I do not see how you could possibly think any of my posts infer that the president is a member of the Corps???  I move a little fast but was simply EXPANDING on the fact that in the Corps - unlike a soldier as NM pointed out - one must not only be in uniform but also covered...
I stated nothing implying that the POTUS was obligated to return salute. I stated that simply by holding the position of CIC the President is always "in uniform" ... It's a military mindset - I assumed anyone that served would catch that. Vince made the implication that the POTUS should never salute as he was not military nor in uniform..
None of my posts addressed whether he should have or shouldn't...

Apology accepted.

[Al Doggity]

YOUR LINK DID!

"The pilot refused to let President Obama board until he honored the Marine"

LOL So did the thread title.   WTF?

Silly 240, there's a difference between letting someone board a plane and refusing to fly with them on it.

[240 is Back]

the story said NOTHING about the PILOT "refusing" to let obama board.  

The facts?  Obama got on, then hopped back out and shook hands, chatted for a minute, then got back on.

Anything about the Pilot was untrue.  Untrue in the thread title, untrue in the FB post.  Just untrue.

I believe obama should be impeached for Fast & Furious  - so nobody can say I'm soft on obama.  I'd vote to impeach him tomorrow, even if "repubs" will not.  I've been posting since 2010 that he should be impeached for F&F.   How many "repubs" on getbig want obama impeached?  

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

The President does not have to be in uniform to salute. I never said he was required to and I am well aware that this is a very recent "tradition"..
In the Corps we salute when your cover is on.

A business suit is not a uniform.  He's not this guy



Or this guy......




The Commander in Chief is not a military position, he does not hold a military rank, he is not an officer or enlisted person, he doesn't have an MOS,.....  He is the President of the United States.  Now shut the fuck up