Racism on the forum

[The_Iron_Disciple]

you're one of the main ones who come on here constantly with the same nonsense....if you have a racial ax to grind why don't yo go to one of the hundreds of white supremacist sites on the internet?..why bring your constant ignorant behavior to a bodybuilding board?

Exactly. Dude is in the same class as TA. The kind of person who spills their glass of beer in front of a group of people, refuses to clean it up, all the while saying aloud, " I'm not to blame. It wasn't me who did it. " Constantly insulting our intelligence.

[Donny]

Sounds like he kicked sand in your snatch, "Donny".

scram kid...

[El Diablo Blanco]

Exactly. Dude is in the same class as TA. The kind of person who spills their glass of beer in front of a group of people, refuses to clean it up, all the while saying aloud, " I'm not to blame. It wasn't me who did it. " Constantly insulting our intelligence.

Wah wah wah.  At least we know which pussies are running to the mods crying when they see a racist remark that hurts their little feelings.

[chaos]

Re-read your comment, old friend. It's quite obvious. Anyways, I'm not going to argue with you, Chaos. We go way back.

There is no threat in that statement,  it's a statement that's all. Nothing more. People are notorious for screaming about rules being broken, then whining when they're enforced. I was trying to give getbiggers the opportunity to let the majority decide the severity of punishment for racism. Now it's up to mods and I can guarantee there will be whining on both sides.
Yes we go way back and you know I don't take anything personal,  it's all fun and games, buddy!

[andreisdaman]

Wah wah wah.  At least we know which pussies are running to the mods crying when they see a racist remark that hurts their little feelings.

I've been here since the early days..never ran to a mod.....but you are simply annoying as fuck because its the same thing EVERY SINGLE DAY....there is obviously NOTHING ELSE that you think about or capable of talking about

[El Diablo Blanco]

There is no threat in that statement,  it's a statement that's all. Nothing more. People are notorious for screaming about rules being broken, then whining when they're enforced. I was trying to give getbiggers the opportunity to let the majority decide the severity of punishment for racism. Now it's up to mods and I can guarantee there will be whining on both sides.
Yes we go way back and you know I don't take anything personal,  it's all fun and games, buddy!

What about free speech? 

[The_Iron_Disciple]

Wah wah wah.  At least we know which pussies are running to the mods crying when they see a racist remark that hurts their little feelings.

This is the best you can do ? This is your retort ? An awful lot of ASSuming on your part, Diablo.

Try again. I'm a fair man.

[Hulkotron]

scram kid...

You're the one posting lengthy diatribes (you might have to look that word up with your limited vocabulary) about mean old chaos like a jilted girlfriend, haha what a bitch

[Donny]

You're the one posting lengthy diatribes (you might have to look that word up with your limited vocabulary) about mean old chaos like a jilted girlfriend, haha what a bitch

you are just a little Kid who is not to be taken seriously. The hulk

[chaos]

What about free speech? 

Getbiggers don't want free speech, they want to be told what they can and cannot say!!

[_aj_]

OK, if we whine loud enough, all of our individual grievance-group insults can get scrubbed and we'll just be another bodybuilding.com!

I am continually insulted by the term "twink", because as a proud member of TSSAA (Twink, Skinny, Small-Armed Americans), I find those words hurtful.

I demand either the insults hurled against me and my kind cease immediately, or moved to a special access-only subforum or trigger-warning alert words added to each thread.

[King Shizzo]

A few of the members were clearly seeing how much they could get away with in the last few days though.  In my opinion, its not necessarily the content (although I am not a fan of some of the more vulgar racial tirades) it was the fact that there were way too many threads with the same basic premise. You had 4 or 5 threads just on the Confederate Flag for crying out loud.  Not to mention many other threads which could have been merged.

Racial discussion will always be a sensitive issue, but it does have its place in society and on a public forum.

[El Diablo Blanco]

I've been here since the early days..never ran to a mod.....but you are simply annoying as fuck because its the same thing EVERY SINGLE DAY....there is obviously NOTHING ELSE that you think about or capable of talking about

Lol, coming from a guy where 99% of his posts are from the Random pics thread claiming he would destroy it.  You are a fucking simpleton.  Sadly you can't see it.

[chaos]

OK, if we whine loud enough, all of our individual grievance-group insults can get scrubbed and we'll just be another bodybuilding.com!

I am continually insulted by the term "twink", because as a proud member of TSSAA (Twink, Skinny, Small-Armed Americans), I find those words hurtful.

I demand either the insults hurled against me and my kind cease immediately, or moved to a special access-only subforum or trigger-warning alert words added to each thread.

Noted.

[Pray_4_War]

Awww, horseshit!  Bunch of fucking babies in here these days.  

[The_Iron_Disciple]

A few of the members were clearly seeing how much they could get away with in the last few days though.  In my opinion, its not necessarily the content (although I am not a fan of some of the more vulgar racial tirades) it was the fact that there were way too many threads with the same basic premise. You had 4 or 5 threads just on the Confederate Flag for crying out loud.  Not to mention many other threads which could have been merged.

Racial discussion will always be a sensitive issue, but it does have its place in society and on a public forum.

Best post I've read thus far on this issue. Well said.

[BB]

Here's a thought, why can't certain people just let a thread work it's way down to the bottom of the page or just scroll past it?

That is probably the best form of moderation for almost all forum related  brew-ha.... er, brouhahas.  

[Pray_4_War]

I suppose now we all have to pretend that we support Bruce/Kaitlyn Jenner now too or else we'll get banned for being transphobic.

Yeah, That Kaitlyn Jenner is a totally normal, well adjusted individual.  Quite brave and should be an inspiration to us all.  Lets start a petition to put her face on the 20 dollar bill.

[King Shizzo]

Here's a thought, why can't certain people just let a thread work it's way down to the bottom of the page or just scroll past it?

That is probably the best form of moderation for almost all forum related  brew-ha.... er, brouhahas.  

Seems good on paper until you notice that some of the dumbest threads will continually get bumped. Some people just love to respond to stupidity all day long.

[OneMoreRep]

...and folks, just to be fair...

Although, we are simply starting with a basic clean up of the threads on the G&O, if ever a member becomes a repeat offender, I will start slow with a warning via PM, then if a second infraction occurs, it will then be followed by a public warning and if a third infraction occurs, then it will met with a 1-2 week ban.

Unless it's simply a gimmick account, everyone else will get the same courtesy.

Baby steps on this.. This kind of thing takes time to adjust to and a form of habitual desensitization needs to take place before we get a good flow going.

"1"

[Pray_4_War]

Do you smell that Getbig?  It's the stench of betrayal. 

[_aj_]

Baby steps on this.. This kind of thing takes time to adjust to and a form of habitual desensitization needs to take place, before we get a good flow going.

Ron's house, Ron's rules.

I just liked the wild west aspect of Getbig and by definition some of that will be now lost. It's hard to see how one can fairly elevate one particular type of discourse to "unacceptable" without allowing for a fair hearing for other types of potentially offensive discourse. The Pandora's Box cannot be closed.

The forum does have it's own form of censorship: stupid, repetitive and shit threads are ruthlessly mocked along with stupid, repetitive and shit posters. Until this very moment, this was sufficient. It's hard to see how TA's latest changes that. Just bundle hit shit into a thread called "TA's Racist Shit" and let it stew in its own juices. Fuck it, if my threads don't pass the racist-purity smell-test, jam mine in there too.

An unfortunate reality check is that -- in the USA at least --racism is in the upswing on both sides. One can argue which is the chicken and which the egg, but you cannot argue that the tensions are high. And that is news, hence its needed inclusion on the G&O.

Maybe, by letting go of censorship and letting the marketplace of ideas prevail here on Getbig, we can set a course for the rest of the nation.

[andreisdaman]

Lol, coming from a guy where 99% of his posts are from the Random pics thread claiming he would destroy it.  You are a fucking simpleton.  Sadly you can't see it.

again, the white supremacist boards are waiting for you.........are you there yet?

[BigCyp]

I don't read every single thread on the forum.

As the complaints come in, we move on them. There are way too many threads made on a daily basis for us to sit and read through each one.

By the way, didn't you say you were leaving? Something about you waiting for another forum to be fixed in order to completely leave this place? Changed your mind?

"1"

Mike is so bitter. When life gave him lemons, it took them back.

[Hulkotron]

Ron's house, Ron's rules.

I just liked the wild west aspect of Getbig and by definition some of that will be now lost. It's hard to see how one can fairly elevate one particular type of discourse to "unacceptable" without allowing for a fair hearing for other types of potentially offensive discourse. The Pandora's Box cannot be closed.

The forum does have it's own form of censorship: stupid, repetitive and shit threads are ruthlessly mocked along with stupid, repetitive and shit posters. Until this very moment, this was sufficient. It's hard to see how TA's latest changes that. Just bundle hit shit into a thread called "TA's Racist Shit" and let it stew in its own juices. Fuck it, if my threads don't pass the racist-purity smell-test, jam mine in there too.

An unfortunate reality check is that -- in the USA at least --racism is in the upswing on both sides. One can argue which is the chicken and which the egg, but you cannot argue that the tensions are high. And that is news, hence its needed inclusion on the G&O.

Maybe, by letting go of censorship and letting the marketplace of ideas prevail here on Getbig, we can set a course for the rest of the nation.

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