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Good person and AAS
« on: July 21, 2015, 07:43:58 PM »
As i get closer to my goal weight and leanness, (where i then plan to dabble with some moderate test use), ...and as i get older and see the world differently, ...can you be a good person and still use image enhancing drugs? It almost seems like its hard to justify the use now. Im going thru like an anti-mid life crisis or the opposite of what guys usually go thru in 30-40 age range. I dont want the flashy cars, or give a shit about what shoes i wear to the gym or how people view me.

Can i still be a "good person" who cares about people, and the world, and who is well rounded, but at the same time, do something as selfish and self fulfilling as using gear to "look better"? I dunno, just was thinking about it today.

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2015, 07:46:18 PM »
As i get closer to my goal weight and leanness, (where i then plan to dabble with some moderate test use), ...and as i get older and see the world differently, ...can you be a good person and still use image enhancing drugs? It almost seems like its hard to justify the use now. Im going thru like an anti-mid life crisis or the opposite of what guys usually go thru in 30-40 age range. I dont want the flashy cars, or give a shit about what shoes i wear to the gym or how people view me.

Can i still be a "good person" who cares about people, and the world, and who is well rounded, but at the same time, do something as selfish and self fulfilling as using gear to "look better"? I dunno, just was thinking about it today.


Just justify it as being for health reasons and go to your doc for HRT so it's legal  :)

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2015, 07:51:40 PM »
As i get closer to my goal weight and leanness, (where i then plan to dabble with some moderate test use), ...and as i get older and see the world differently, ...can you be a good person and still use image enhancing drugs? It almost seems like its hard to justify the use now. Im going thru like an anti-mid life crisis or the opposite of what guys usually go thru in 30-40 age range. I dont want the flashy cars, or give a shit about what shoes i wear to the gym or how people view me.

Can i still be a "good person" who cares about people, and the world, and who is well rounded, but at the same time, do something as selfish and self fulfilling as using gear to "look better"? I dunno, just was thinking about it today.



You've got to be joking ?? Right !?

Dude ... not trying to be an ass ... but it's really not that serIous. You are putting entirely too much thought into it. Just my humble opinion.

Either take the plunge ( pun intended ) or don't. Has nothing at all to deal with whether you are a good person or not. Good grief.

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2015, 07:54:59 PM »
Think like the average pro bodybuilder and simply deny the fact that any "real" problems would ever arise from your abuse, I mean use.

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2015, 08:06:46 PM »
Words from a very wise man -

Insofar as I can determine, there is no known drug that will improve the performance, or increase the muscular mass, of a healthy individual. Furthermore, I would like to go record at this point by stating…”I do not believe that such drug will ever be discovered. I think that such a result from any chemical is impossible.”
I am fully aware that some drugs can improve the condition of a weakened individual, in cases of sickness or accident…but I also believe that a state of normal health is possible only in the presence of a very delicate chemical balance that is regulated automatically by the system. If any chemical is added for the purpose of upsetting this balance, the result can only be counterproductive.
In effect, there is no such thing as a “super chemical balance”…if the chemical balance is normal, you are healthy…if not, you are sick…and it matters not whether the state of imbalance is produced by too much or too little of a practical chemical. This has been proven repeatedly in literally thousands of tests conducted with animal subjects, and no slightest evidence exists in support of an opposite result with either animal of human subjects.
Certain hormones will help add muscular mass to a steer, or a gelding…but they will NOT produce the same result with a bull or a stallion. When an animal has been castrated, removing the testicles produces an abnormal situation where normal growth is impossible, giving such an animal the hormone drugs merely tends to restore a normal situation, a situation that would have existed naturally if the animal had not been castrated.
In such cases you are merely removing something and then trying to replace it in another manner; first creating a subnormal condition and then trying to restore normal health.
Yet the widespread bias in favor of such so called “growth drugs” borders on hysteria. Even suggesting that the use of these drugs is anything less than necessary automatically labels you a fool in some circles. And there is certainly no doubt that a lot of people are being fooled on this subject; but you can NOT fool your endocrine system, and when you add an un-required chemical for the purpose of disturbing a normal balance, you are NOT improving the situation.
Pointing to recent strength records as proof of the value of such drugs actually proves nothing. The fact remains that the single strongest human recorded in history established his records long before the drugs were ever used. Paul Anderson established records prior to 1958 that have never been approached and androgenic-anabolic drugs were apparently first used in athletic circles in 1960.
Bob Peoples established a deadlift record thirty years ago, lifting nearly 800 pounds at a bodyweight of approximately 180; today, a very few individuals have reached or passed that level of performance…but most of them weigh nearly twice as much as he did, and some of them weigh more than twice as much.
Men who establish such records are merely statistical standouts, literally genetic freaks; they are NOT the products of drugs, regardless of their opinions on the subject.

Great strength is a result of two factors…(1) individual potential, which cannot be improved…and (2) hard training, which will increase the strength of almost anybody.
But a third factor exists as a prerequisite…NORMAL HEALTH, without which, reaching the limits of potential strength is simply impossible. So you can improve a sick individual in some cases, but you can NOT turn a normal individual into a superman by chemical means. Such a result is impossible, and ridiculous on the face of it.
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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2015, 11:32:37 PM »
Man, the changes are going to be so profound.  Selfish, that's nothing compared to what you might become.  You'll turn into a big green monster who'll pounce on any ass you see, male or female, you just won't care.  Any rejection will trigger you off and you'll go on a massacring mayhem spree.  Just so no, fight the peer pressure.

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2015, 11:44:31 PM »
^ That or you'll get exactly (0) more than you did before using the fool's gold steroids are like everyone else does.
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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2015, 12:23:31 AM »
if you really cared about other people you would stop making threads like this

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2015, 12:32:25 AM »
I know how you feel

the older you get, the harder it is to avoid questioning your motives

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2015, 12:39:20 AM »
Needing drugs to make gains has zero to do with being a good person.  You're just more of a pussy if you require test shots to have decent gains in a gym.  Lifting isn't for everyone.  HRT is the modern bullshit people tell themselves to feel better about not making adequate gains on their own in a gym.
Of course, as you get older...test levels drop...no shit.  It's usually someone who doesn't train that hard who uses test as a crutch in the gym.
There's nothing wrong with being 50 and having a decent build naturally for an old guy.  People want to pretend their still 20, but really...you're just some grandpa on a consolation prize.  I see it all the time.
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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2015, 01:09:26 AM »
As i get closer to my goal weight and leanness, (where i then plan to dabble with some moderate test use), ...and as i get older and see the world differently, ...can you be a good person and still use image enhancing drugs? It almost seems like its hard to justify the use now. Im going thru like an anti-mid life crisis or the opposite of what guys usually go thru in 30-40 age range. I dont want the flashy cars, or give a shit about what shoes i wear to the gym or how people view me.

Can i still be a "good person" who cares about people, and the world, and who is well rounded, but at the same time, do something as selfish and self fulfilling as using gear to "look better"? I dunno, just was thinking about it today.

There are no altruists, just a world full of selfish arseholes doing whatever it takes to survive.  You can survive without PRETENDING to be a good person.  The reality is the 'do-gooders' have made the world a terrible place.  Best to live without pretense IMHO.

As for taking PED's, this, like being a ' good person' is simply a strategy to be liked by others. Simply another technique adopted as part of a survival strategy.  Both are selfish pursuits.
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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2015, 01:11:03 AM »
As i get closer to my goal weight and leanness, (where i then plan to dabble with some moderate test use), ...and as i get older and see the world differently, ...can you be a good person and still use image enhancing drugs? It almost seems like its hard to justify the use now. Im going thru like an anti-mid life crisis or the opposite of what guys usually go thru in 30-40 age range. I dont want the flashy cars, or give a shit about what shoes i wear to the gym or how people view me.

Can i still be a "good person" who cares about people, and the world, and who is well rounded, but at the same time, do something as selfish and self fulfilling as using gear to "look better"? I dunno, just was thinking about it today.


It is all about the approach to this matter.
Consider the use of enhancing drugs as an award for being a good person who cares about people and the world as a whole.

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2015, 01:30:32 AM »
Good lord. You are mature person and still need someone to "tell"you what to do? At age 19 noone could tell me what to do and I couldn't care less about what others do, this is even more pronounced as the time goes by.

Regarding your questons about a "good person", etc... you sound like a naive, good hearted individual. Let me tell you this: your life will end relatively soon, it may end after and hour actually, and you care about trivial shit like that?? I can not understand it, sorry.

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Re: Good person and AAS
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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2015, 03:47:36 AM »
I know how you feel

the older you get, the harder it is to avoid questioning your motives

Thanks for understanding, your right...i question every decision i make. Its annoying.

Oh amd to the other posters,lve been on trt for years

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2015, 03:51:34 AM »
Needing drugs to make gains has zero to do with being a good person.  You're just more of a pussy if you require test shots to have decent gains in a gym.  Lifting isn't for everyone.  HRT is the modern bullshit people tell themselves to feel better about not making adequate gains on their own in a gym.
Of course, as you get older...test levels drop...no shit.  It's usually someone who doesn't train that hard who uses test as a crutch in the gym.
There's nothing wrong with being 50 and having a decent build naturally for an old guy.  People want to pretend their still 20, but really...you're just some grandpa on a consolation prize.  I see it all the time.

Post chock full of pure retardation, your views are beyond warped.
Remain in the stone age you f'in dumb ass. Fuck...
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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2015, 04:01:20 AM »
Post chock full of pure retardation, your views are beyond warped.
Remain in the stone age you f'in dumb ass. Fuck...

This.
Some people are just hopeles...

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Re: Good person and AAS
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2015, 05:38:10 AM »
Post chock full of pure retardation, your views are beyond warped.
Remain in the stone age you f'in dumb ass. Fuck...
Join a bowling league or something.  Making decent gains without drugs probably isn't for you.
I'm 62 and have low test...no shit...haha

The whole gh/test generation are a bunch of pussies...end of story.  Any excuse to not gain a few pounds of mass on their own, nothing more Champ.  Paint it however you'd like.
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