Acura TLX Is Just An Accord With A Chrome Grill

[Palumboism]

If an Acura TLX is just a Honda Accord with a chrome grill, then what's a Honda Accord with a chrome grill? 
2016 Honda Accord:


What's Acura going to do now?  

[G_Thang]

Lexus IS and ES = Camry and Solara.

Save folks.

[HTexan]

If an Acura TLX is just a Honda Accord with a chrome grill, then what's a Honda Accord with a chrome grill?  
2016 Honda Accord:


What's Acura going to do now?  

Wrong, the chassis is the same, but that ~10k. Gives you more luxury stuff, better suspension, more sound deadening, different tune on engine to run 91-93 octane, different sheet metal, better info/audio system, 8 speed tranny instead of 6 speed, better warranty, etc.

[Palumboism]

2015 Acura TLX


2016 Honda Accord


This is beyond pathetic.  Acura and Lincoln are two of the most failed luxury car brands in America. The idea that you can take an Accord or Fusion and slap a chrome grill on it, and people think its a luxury car is insulting.  Now that the 2016 Accord has a chrome grill, the fraud is blatantly obvious.  You are just paying for an emblem now.

[Grape Ape]

2015 Acura TLX


2016 Honda Accord


This is beyond pathetic.  Acura and Lincoln are two of the most failed luxury car brands in America. The idea that you can take an Accord or Fusion and slap a chrome grill on it, and people think its a luxury car is insulting.  Now that the 2016 Accord has a chrome grill, the fraud is blatantly obvious.  You are just paying for an emblem now.

So, just skip everything HTexan said that refuted your point?

[Coffeed]

Are we talking about vehicles that we buy for our housing attendants?

[Palumboism]

Wrong, the chassis is the same, but that ~10k. Gives you more luxury stuff, better suspension, more sound deadening, different tune on engine to run 91-93 octane, different sheet metal, better info/audio system, 8 speed tranny instead of 6 speed, better warranty, etc.

I'm speaking as someone who's a fan of both Honda and Acura.  I understand there are differences, but almost all the things you mentioned could simply be options on the Accord.  Sales of Acura cars have been abysmal.  Customers look at an Acura and all they see is a Civic or Accord.

Basically, by moving the Accord up market, they are sacrificing sales of the TLX.  It's not a good move, but I understand why they are doing it.  The midsized car market has become more competitive for the Accord and they are struggling to keep sales.  I'm a fan of both the Accord and the TLX.  My concern is, I'm seeing Honda turn Acura into Mercury, and I don't want Acura to suffer the same fate.  

Honda seems clueless about how to establish a genuine luxury brand.  What you don't want to do is take a Civic with leather seats and try to sell it against the BMW 3 series.  The bottom 3 series starts at $33K and the ILX (a Civic) tops out at $35K.  That's how misguided their thinking has been and they have the sales to prove it.

[Skylge]

Honda's management is making a mess of their European sales as well, and they have been doing so for years. The seem to ignore the local demands completely. Sales have collapsed years ago, and haven't recuperated. Kia and Hyundai changed their styling, upped the material and warranties, and introduced new models, opened new dealers = German car mags give them lots of praise

Honda = good quality and reliable cars, but disastrous top Japanese management

[Palumboism]

Honda's management is making a mess of their European sales as well, and they have been doing so for years. The seem to ignore the local demands completely. Sales have collapsed years ago, and haven't recuperated. Kia and Hyundai changed their styling, upped the material and warranties, and introduced new models, opened new dealers = German car mags give them lots of praise

Honda = good quality and reliable cars, but disastrous top Japanese management

This x 1000.  It's like there is no management and the company has no direction or focus.  Case in point, the Honda Jet.  It's like they said, let's make a Honda Civic for Donald Trump.  The only problem is Donald's not buying jet made be the same company that makes the gardeners lawn mower.  Honda is clueless about luxury.  

[BlackMetallic]

Wrong, the chassis is the same, but that ~10k. Gives you more luxury stuff, better suspension, more sound deadening, different tune on engine to run 91-93 octane, different sheet metal, better info/audio system, 8 speed tranny instead of 6 speed, better warranty, etc.

+1000

8sp dct vs 6sp slush box

[Juruth]

Lexus IS and ES = Camry and Solara.

Save folks.

lol...like a Lexus is even on the table for you. Or even a new Camry for that matter. Lol

[Bevo]

Lexus IS and ES = Camry and Solara.

Save folks.

If u think a IS is a Camry u are a fucking idiot. The car has better steering and chassis than the 3 series

[The_Punisher]

If an Acura TLX is just a Honda Accord with a chrome grill, then what's a Honda Accord with a chrome grill? 
2016 Honda Accord:


What's Acura going to do now?  

it looks good to me.....yes, they copy their Brother a little too much here, but it's a Honda. can't complain

[Palumboism]

it looks good to me.....yes, they copy their Brother a little too much here, but it's a Honda. can't complain

I agree, it looks as good as a TLX, so why would anybody spend the extra money for the TLX.  They won't!

[The_Punisher]

I agree, it looks as good as a TLX, so why would anybody spend the extra money for the TLX.  They won't!

I just checked the interior and it's freaking nice too.....no need to get an Acura here......that's it, I'll trade my accord next year..

[Palumboism]

I just checked the interior and it's freaking nice too.....no need to get an Acura here......that's it, I'll trade my accord next year..

This car looks fantastic inside and out.  Acura was just sacrificed for the good of the company.

[HTexan]

I'm speaking as someone who's a fan of both Honda and Acura.  I understand there are differences, but almost all the things you mentioned could simply be options on the Accord.  Sales of Acura cars have been abysmal.  Customers look at an Acura and all they see is a Civic or Accord.

Basically, by moving the Accord up market, they are sacrificing sales of the TLX.  It's not a good move, but I understand why they are doing it.  The midsized car market has become more competitive for the Accord and they are struggling to keep sales.  I'm a fan of both the Accord and the TLX.  My concern is, I'm seeing Honda turn Acura into Mercury, and I don't want Acura to suffer the same fate.  

Honda seems clueless about how to establish a genuine luxury brand.  What you don't want to do is take a Civic with leather seats and try to sell it against the BMW 3 series.  The bottom 3 series starts at $33K and the ILX (a Civic) tops out at $35K.  That's how misguided their thinking has been and they have the sales to prove it.

wrong, SO fucking wrong
Advance options of AcuraLink Real-Time Traffic, and AWD aren't offered on the accord to start with....
plus even if you max out an accord, still not going to having most of those things i listed

And I'm sure you are a honda "fan" And that is all you are.

[WalterWhite]

I just had one as a loaner and it was great.  I have never had problems with Acura or Lexus for that matter.

[HTexan]

I just had one as a loaner and it was great.  I have never had problems with Acura or Lexus for that matter.

Yeah, no problems with either brand. Japan makes great cars. I have had the most problems with euro/German brands.

[BayGBM]

2015 Acura TLX


2016 Honda Accord


This is beyond pathetic.  Acura and Lincoln are two of the most failed luxury car brands in America. The idea that you can take an Accord or Fusion and slap a chrome grill on it, and people think its a luxury car is insulting.  Now that the 2016 Accord has a chrome grill, the fraud is blatantly obvious.  You are just paying for an emblem now.

Wow!  That is pretty stark.  They are not even pretending anymore.

[Palumboism]

wrong, SO fucking wrong
Advance options of AcuraLink Real-Time Traffic, and AWD aren't offered on the accord to start with....
plus even if you max out an accord, still not going to having most of those things i listed

And I'm sure you are a honda "fan" And that is all you are.

I'm not saying that a dual clutch transmission and AWD are options on the Accord, I'm saying they could be.

I'm talking about what it takes to properly develop a luxury car brand. Some companies get it, like BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, and Lexus.  Other companies don't, like Acura, Lincoln, Chrysler, Infiniti, and Cadillac.

I am a Honda fan and an Acura fan.  I watched Acura and Honda ascend in the nineties and thought this company was unstoppable.  It was one amazing hit after another and the competition wasn't even close.  As a result, I have very high expectations of both companies.  I want Acura to destroy BMW, Audi, Lexus and to become much more than just a tarted up Honda.

This is what Acura was producing in 1991!
   



Bang for the buck they were leaving the competition in the dust.

[HTexan]

I'm not saying that a dual clutch transmission and AWD are options on the Accord, I'm saying they could be.

I'm talking about what it takes to properly develop a luxury car brand. Some companies get it, like BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, and Lexus.  Other companies don't, like Acura, Lincoln, Chrysler, Infiniti, and Cadillac.

I am a Honda fan and an Acura fan.  I watched Acura and Honda ascend in the nineties and thought this company was unstoppable.  It was one amazing hit after another and the competition wasn't even close.  As a result, I have very high expectations of both companies.  I want Acura to destroy BMW, Audi, Lexus and to become much more than just a tarted up Honda.

This is what Acura was producing in 1991!
   



Bang for the buck they were leaving the competition in the dust.

Anything "could be"
Bitch boy, I was building b-series race engines in high school. So my honda knowledge is way more then your "fan" knowledge. 

[The_Punisher]

I'm not saying that a dual clutch transmission and AWD are options on the Accord, I'm saying they could be.

I'm talking about what it takes to properly develop a luxury car brand. Some companies get it, like BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Ferrari, and Lexus.  Other companies don't, like Acura, Lincoln, Chrysler, Infiniti, and Cadillac.

I am a Honda fan and an Acura fan.  I watched Acura and Honda ascend in the nineties and thought this company was unstoppable.  It was one amazing hit after another and the competition wasn't even close.  As a result, I have very high expectations of both companies.  I want Acura to destroy BMW, Audi, Lexus and to become much more than just a tarted up Honda.

This is what Acura was producing in 1991!
   



Bang for the buck they were leaving the competition in the dust.

Wow, I had a fucking Crush on the Legend....it's Pity that I couldn't afford it back then.. .....I wish Acura had kept the Legend.....I guess the RL was it's replacement

[Fuzzy Nuts]

I'm with Palumbo on this one. Acura isn't even on the radar anymore. I was looking at Infiniti, but I'm pretty impressed with the new Cadillac ATS.

[The True Adonis]

The only Acura worth anything was the NSX. 

Everything made today by most companies is garbage.  Everything looks like a Toyota Camry.  Cars have been shit for a long time now.