Author Topic: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!! (Read 11472 times)

SquidVicious · « **Reply #25 on:** August 06, 2015, 02:43:29 PM »

Quote from: Grenache on August 06, 2015, 12:29:09 PM

Real Mr. Olympia in 2007:

The funniest thing about that video is that Cutler is far worse than all five of the guys he beat that year. Worst fix ever.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #26 on:** August 06, 2015, 02:47:52 PM »

He's not even close to a legend in bodybuilding.

He's on no one's Top-10 list
No Mr Olympia wins
No Olympia's he "should" have won

WalterWhite · « **Reply #27 on:** August 06, 2015, 04:35:55 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on August 06, 2015, 02:47:52 PM

He's not even close to a legend in bodybuilding.

He's on no one's Top-10 list
No Mr Olympia wins
No Olympia's he "should" have won

x2

wes · « **Reply #28 on:** August 06, 2015, 04:42:39 PM »

Good but not hardly a legend.

Nether Animal · « **Reply #29 on:** August 06, 2015, 04:47:53 PM »

Feel bad for Vic for all he has been through, but sorry; not quite a legend.

booty · « **Reply #30 on:** August 06, 2015, 05:29:25 PM »

Arnold yes, Ronnie yes, Samir yes. Victor no. Legend is given to the Mr O's.

Bevo · « **Reply #31 on:** August 06, 2015, 06:33:20 PM »

Quote from: booty on August 06, 2015, 05:29:25 PM

Arnold yes, Ronnie yes, Samir yes. Victor no. Legend is given to the Mr O's.

Is Chris Dickerson a legend then? A forgettable mr O

Coffeed · « **Reply #32 on:** August 06, 2015, 06:48:28 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on August 06, 2015, 06:33:20 PM

Is Chris Dickerson a legend then? A forgettable mr O

Absolutely not.

Think about other sports, for example. The word "legend" doesn't typically signify just a champion. I mean, how many champions have there been in baseball? But how many legendary teams are there? And how many MVP's are out there? Surely they are not all legends. Hell I wonder how many are even in the Hall of Fame...

It might be hard to define the word, but it should signify a high degree of greatness and some degree of extreme.

If that's the case, then maybe Victor has an argument for legendary disappointment. He's certainly one of the biggest underachievers of our time.

The Scott · « **Reply #33 on:** August 06, 2015, 07:55:55 PM »

As the saying goes, he's a legend in his own mind. And a very small mind it is.

TTfit · « **Reply #34 on:** August 06, 2015, 08:36:51 PM »

Winning an Olympia doesn't make one a legend.

Competitor 9 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 06, 2015, 11:06:07 PM »

Quote from: affeman on August 06, 2015, 12:48:35 PM

Actually I'm not even sure if he was robbed in 2007, Jay was very bad that year but still crushed him in terms of size and thickness.

I means srsly, that's like a different weight class...

That's pretty ridiculous that's like 40lbs difference

ritch · « **Reply #36 on:** August 06, 2015, 11:06:55 PM »

Quote from: SquidVicious on August 06, 2015, 02:43:29 PM

The funniest thing about that video is that Cutler is far worse than all five of the guys he beat that year. Worst fix ever.

He looked a bit like Wheeler in that pic/pose.

wes · « **Reply #37 on:** August 06, 2015, 11:17:18 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on August 06, 2015, 06:33:20 PM

Is Chris Dickerson a legend then? A forgettable mr O

YES HE IS:

Chris Dickerson:

1966

Mr Atlantic Coast - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr Eastern America - AAU, Overall Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Mr New York City - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York Metropolitan - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr New York State - AAU, Overall Winner
Mr North America - AAU, 2nd

1967

Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 4th
Mr America - AAU, 6th
Mr California - AAU, Winner
Junior Mr America - AAU, 4th
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 5th

1968

Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 3rd
Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 3rd
Mr USA - AAU, Most Muscular, 2nd
Mr USA - AAU, Winner

1969

Mr America - AAU, 2nd
Junior Mr America - AAU, 2nd

1970

Mr America - AAU, Winner
Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Junior Mr America - AAU, Most Muscular, 1st
Junior Mr America - AAU, Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st

1971

Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st

1973

Pro Mr America - WBBG, Winner
Mr Universe - NABBA, Short, 1st
Mr Universe - NABBA, Overall Winner

1974

Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 1st
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Overall Winner

1975

Universe - Pro - PBBA, 2nd
Pro Mr World - WBBG, 2nd

1976

Olympus - WBBG, 4th
Universe - Pro - NABBA, 3rd
Universe - Pro - NABBA, Short, 2nd

1979

Canada Diamond Pro Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Vancouver - IFBB, 2nd
Olympia - IFBB, LightWeight, 4th

1980

Canada Pro Cup - IFBB, Winner
Florida Pro Invitational - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Miami - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Pennsylvania - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Pittsburgh Pro Invitational - IFBB, 2nd

1981

Grand Prix California - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix Louisiana - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix New England - IFBB, 2nd
Grand Prix Washington - IFBB, Winner
Grand Prix World Cup - IFBB, 2nd
Night of Champions - IFBB, Winner
Olympia - IFBB, 2nd
Professional World Cup - IFBB, 2nd

1982

Olympia - IFBB, Winner

1984

Olympia - IFBB, 11th

1990

Arnold Classic - IFBB, 8th

1994

Olympia - Masters - IFBB, 4th

Simple Simon · « **Reply #38 on:** August 06, 2015, 11:22:19 PM »

Quote from: Coffeed on August 06, 2015, 06:48:28 PM

Absolutely not.

Think about other sports, for example. The word "legend" doesn't typically signify just a champion. I mean, how many champions have there been in baseball? But how many legendary teams are there? And how many MVP's are out there? Surely they are not all legends. Hell I wonder how many are even in the Hall of Fame...

It might be hard to define the word, but it should signify a high degree of greatness and some degree of extreme. If that's the case, then maybe Victor has an argument for legendary disappointment. He's certainly one of the biggest underachievers of our time.

Arturo Gatti= Legend

The_Iron_Disciple · « **Reply #39 on:** August 07, 2015, 01:43:53 AM »

The shits I take are more legendary than Vic will ever be. I mean, granted, he might be a bodybuilding legend in the Dominican Republic. Or even New York. But a bodybuilding legend ... in all of bodybuilding ... no ... just no. Not even close either.

Nails · « **Reply #40 on:** August 07, 2015, 11:23:56 AM »

Just another self-glosser like kobe

Royalty · « **Reply #41 on:** August 07, 2015, 03:48:52 PM »

Shawn Ray is a legend.

Levrone is a legend.

But not Victor Martinez.

Ronnie Rep · « **Reply #42 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:25:41 PM »

Not a legend but definitely should have been 07 Mr. O.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #43 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:44:51 PM »

Quote from: Royalty on August 07, 2015, 03:48:52 PM

Shawn Ray is a legend.

Levrone is a legend.

But not Victor Martinez.

lol Shawn Ray is a legend LMAO

that was a good one.

MuscleDysmorphia · « **Reply #44 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:47:27 PM »

I used to train at the same gym as Victor. Probably got to watch him train ~25 times or so. The dude just doesn't care about anything. His demeanor is beyond just laid back and nonchalant...he simply doesn't give a fuck. He's not a rude or unfriendly guy, but he just shows zero emotion, whether it's to his training partners or a shmoe. His workouts are just going through the motions. Granted, he's probably nearing his mid-40s and has had a ton of injuries, but you'd be amazed at how little effort can go into maintaining a top-10 Olympia physique (drugs aside).

He's gotten some bad hands in life, some his fault, but many beyond his control.

Legend? No way. A great bodybuilder in an era without many other great bodybuilders? Sure.

Nether Animal · « **Reply #45 on:** August 07, 2015, 06:48:09 PM »

njflex · « **Reply #46 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:16:43 AM »

Quote from: Nether Animal on August 07, 2015, 06:48:09 PM

kid-n-roid...^^^^

BB · « **Reply #47 on:** August 08, 2015, 11:30:09 AM »

Not a legend, but worthy of respect in bodybuilding. If this was boxing, he'd be a high level journeyman, he's like the Andrew Golota of bodybuilding.

Schmoff · « **Reply #48 on:** August 08, 2015, 12:03:50 PM »

a legend for sure

first bodybuilder put in jail for using expired green card

involved in family member murder case

failed to run a restaurant business

The_Iron_Disciple · « **Reply #49 on:** August 08, 2015, 05:04:16 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on August 07, 2015, 06:44:51 PM

lol Shawn Ray is a legend LMAO that was a good one.

How is he not ? He was practically Mr. Consistent for many, many, MANY years. And, on top of that, he literally had NO flaws.

Author Topic: Is Victor Martinez a Legend? You decide!! (Read 11472 times)

Simple Simon