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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2015, 12:18:58 PM »
you telling me guys were benching 3 plates, taking 60 second rests and doing set after sets of nice controlled tempo's?
Hard to believe man...
I used to watch Jeff King (Mr. America,and Mr. Universe winner) train with his 2 partners Artie Prince,and Rich Roy (look these guys up on musclememory.com) who were also bigtime title winners.

They`d do a set of flyes with the 60 pounders,then immediately do as many reps with 315 as possible on benches........no rest just "I go,you go" style.


They rested a bit longer because there was 3 of them,but no fucking around period...........no time wasted at all,just painful sets of max reps.

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2015, 12:23:19 PM »
I used to watch Jeff King (Mr. America,and Mr. Universe winner) train with his 2 partners Artie Prince,and Rich Roy (look these guys up on musclememory.com) who were also bigtime title winners.

They`d do a set of flyes with the 60 pounders,then immediately do as many reps with 315 as possible on benches........no rest just "I go,you go" style.


They rested a bit longer because there was 3 of them,but no fucking around period...........no time wasted at all,just painful sets of max reps.

But was that seen like every day stuff? There's always a few guys to validate any given training system... MY question is, if it was commonly seen guys benching 3plates for at least 8 reps in good form then 30-60 breaks. I doubt it man. REally, really doubt it...
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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #77 on: August 08, 2015, 12:28:25 PM »
But was that seen like every day stuff? There's always a few guys to validate any given training system... MY question is, if it was commonly seen guys benching 3plates for at least 8 reps in good form then 30-60 breaks. I doubt it man. REally, really doubt it...
If in doubt try it for yourself. It was really a method for pre contest (8x8) 6-8 weeks. Not year round training. There are of course other systems like 10x10 who normally rest longer with this German Volume training. I agree with Wes itīs one mans meat another mans poison.. ;)

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2015, 12:33:59 PM »
If in doubt try it for yourself. It was really a method for pre contest (8x8) 6-8 weeks. Not year round training. There are of course other systems like 10x10 who normally rest longer with this German Volume training. I agree with Wes itīs one mans meat another mans poison.. ;)

oh hell no. Using 185 wont put muscle on me no matter how heavy it feels... GVT tore me to shits, lost size very quickly, worst training system ever for me, lol!

I've tried going lighter when dieting and if I go under "x" amount on certain lifts, yikes man, I look like Sev.

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2015, 12:34:37 PM »
But was that seen like every day stuff? There's always a few guys to validate any given training system... MY question is, if it was commonly seen guys benching 3plates for at least 8 reps in good form then 30-60 breaks. I doubt it man. REally, really doubt it...
I bench four plates and do flyes with 80lbs nonstop while finishing up my 60min cardio session which is done full sprint style.

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2015, 12:37:51 PM »
oh hell no. Using 185 wont put muscle on me no matter how heavy it feels... GVT tore me to shits, lost size very quickly, worst training system ever for me, lol!

I've tried going lighter when dieting and if I go under "x" amount on certain lifts, yikes man, I look like Sev.


well at least you understand your own body. I am 49 and train fast with SS,Tri sets and other things. I like mixing it up.

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2015, 12:43:22 PM »
I bench four plates and do flyes with 80lbs nonstop while finishing up my 60min cardio session which is done full sprint style.

Somehow, I just don't believe it.
Sorry to doubt, but never seen anyone do anything close to what you're saying here. If you can do that, you are ELITE, should have a youtube channel and so on. But you don't, do you?
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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #82 on: August 08, 2015, 01:51:52 PM »
i have a friend who competes in the 400 meter run.  one time i worked out with him; we ran 4 x 400.  run one lap, walk one lap, repeat.

the first lap, he smoked me.  when i caught up with him during the walk, he was huffing and puffing like crazy.  hands on his head, it took him nearly the entire lap to catch his breath.  on the other hand, i felt fine after 10 seconds.

on the second lap, i beat him.  i thought he had to be taking it easy on me... my time had barely dropped, whereas his had dropped by a drastic amount (something like 10 seconds).  same story on the third and fourth laps.

each time, he barely caught his breath in time for the next lap, and his time kept dropping.  my time dropped very little (especially compared to his dropoffs), and i always caught my breath maybe 1/8 to 1/4 into the walked lap.  afterward, he told me he was giving 100% on every lap.

i realized there was simply no way i could "run hard enough" to become as drained as he was.  and it's not like he was out of shape -- he had trained for many months and reduced his 400 time dramatically from his untrained effort (something like 70 second to 57 seconds, at that time).

he once told me he wore a fitbit during a similar workout, which calculated his average heart rate to be 157!  If I'm running steady state, I have to be going pretty hard to get to ~160, and then when I stop, I'm down to ~110 in seconds.  If the fitbit is accurate, that means his heartrate averaged ~160 throughout an entire track workout... which consists mostly of rest!!

Ritch's posts remind me of these experiences.  Personally, I could always kill myself with light weights... heavy weights?  Not so much.  If I used sufficient weight such that I could only get 6-8 reps, I could never drain myself that much.  A weight where I can get 20+ reps?  That set can become a nightmare.

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #83 on: August 09, 2015, 10:47:24 AM »
I am gonna hijack this thread to talk about my training woes. Up until this week, this was my 6/1 split:

Sat: back
Sun: chest
Mon: rest
Tue: legs
Wed: arms
Thu: shoulders/traps
Fri: legs

But I found that my shoulders were pretty beat up come Monday and even though they would feel OK by Wednesday, I still felt like I was getting ground down, So I decided to go to a 5/2 split and just drop the shoulders/traps day on Thursday for another rest day and put traps on with back and shoulders with chest.

Sounds OK, but even when I decreased the volume, back and chest sucked. In both cases, I was almost too gassed to give traps or shoulders anything decent. I am not sitting here typing and my shoulders are KILLING me, MUCH worse than what drove me here.

A friend suggested that I put traps and shoulders on leg days and I am going to give that a try. Like this:

Sat: back
Sun: chest
Mon: rest
Tue: legs/traps
Wed: arms
Thu: rest
Fri: legs/shoulders

Looks OK. Not sure why I never wanted to put anything upper-body in with legs. FFS, it's not like "leg day" is a sacred thing, it's more like an exercise in futility.

Anyway, 2 days off a week seems decadent. So I am allowed to do conditioning work as long as I don't touch a weight. And the 32kg kettlebell doesn't count as a weight.

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #84 on: August 09, 2015, 12:40:50 PM »
only if your juicing otherwise 3 days a week every other day is enough.... see HIT
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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #85 on: August 12, 2015, 03:57:04 AM »
If you had only half an hour per week to train, and you decided to focus on training arms, then you'd have to sacrifice training legs, back, etc. It's not such a difficult concept to understand. 

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #86 on: August 12, 2015, 01:39:43 PM »
I used to watch Jeff King (Mr. America,and Mr. Universe winner) train with his 2 partners Artie Prince,and Rich Roy (look these guys up on musclememory.com) who were also bigtime title winners.

They`d do a set of flyes with the 60 pounders,then immediately do as many reps with 315 as possible on benches........no rest just "I go,you go" style.


They rested a bit longer because there was 3 of them,but no fucking around period...........no time wasted at all,just painful sets of max reps.
Jeff the Neck ??

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #87 on: August 12, 2015, 01:44:03 PM »

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Re: Any bros recommend a 3 day split?
« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2015, 01:46:14 PM »
Yes indeed!!
Long time ago...I only remember him just dissapearing in his mid 20s.