Michael Sam Finally Made It Into The First Pro Game

[HTexan]

There's nothing impossible when you have steroids.  CFL drug testing is almost null and there's plenty of sources.  He can play for 2 years, spike up during that time and come right back to the states.  With his CFL salary, he can certainly afford it.  At least he's doing shit rather than waiting around like other folks

That is why you run a 4 flat, and look like Arnold?
Oh that's right, you are not an athlete and look like shit. 

[Royalty]

That is why you run a 4 flat, and look like Arnold?
Oh that's right, you are not an athlete and look like shit. 

I gotta give Vince props. He is way leaner these days

[Rambone]

There's nothing impossible when you have steroids.  CFL drug testing is almost null and there's plenty of sources.  He can play for 2 years, spike up during that time and come right back to the states.  With his CFL salary, he can certainly afford it.  At least he's doing shit rather than waiting around like other folks

Oh brother 

[Walter Sobchak]

Oh brother 

You can tell how much of a broke ass Melvin is when he considers $60K a year "living large".

[Rambone]

You can tell how much of a broke ass Melvin is when he considers $60K a year "living large".

LOL

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Oh brother 

He's getting 100k from the CFL but he's quickly piling up a ton of endorsements from companies along with other ones from the GLBT community.  He's getting paid good.

[TuHolmes]

Like Tebow?

Tebow is on an NFL squad and he started for a few games and has a playoff victory.

Certainly the comparison is not accurate.

[Rambone]

He's getting 100k from the CFL but he's quickly piling up a ton of endorsements from companies along with other ones from the GLBT community.  He's getting paid good.

He's getting paid a little less than an nfl practice squad player.  Big whoop. Of course he's doing everything he can to make a career after his 2 year stint in football. Guy isn't even worth talking about. Had a shitty game. This thread shouldn't even exist. 100k Canadian is roughly 500 American dollars and that's before taxes. God bless

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

He's getting paid a little less than an nfl practice squad player.  Big whoop. Of course he's doing everything he can to make a career after his 2 year stint in football. Guy isn't even worth talking about. Had a shitty game. This thread shouldn't even exist. 100k Canadian is roughly 500 American dollars and that's before taxes. God bless

Athletes make the most money on endorsements....not salary.  That's why Jordan is a billionaire.  Michael Sam has lots of money coming in because of endorsements.  It doesn't matter if he's in Canada or even Australia.....as long as he's playing, the sponsors will cum to him with bags of money

[HTexan]

Athletes make the most money on endorsements....not salary.  That's why Jordan is a billionaire.  Michael Sam has lots of money coming in because of endorsements.  It doesn't matter if he's in Canada or even Australia.....as long as he's playing, the sponsors will cum to him with bags of money

What endorsements

[Walter Sobchak]

Athletes make the most money on endorsements....not salary.  That's why Jordan is a billionaire.  Michael Sam has lots of money coming in because of endorsements.  It doesn't matter if he's in Canada or even Australia.....as long as he's playing, the sponsors will cum to him with bags of money

Jordan is a billionaire because he owns a sports franchise you fucking moop.

[Royalty]

Jordan is a billionaire because he owns a sports franchise you fucking moop.

We have a Seinfeld "trivial pursuit" reference!

[King Shizzo]

I still don't think Sam got a proper chance in the NFL. He seems like the type of guy who shows up on gameday, rather than a practice all-pro.

I just can't fathom how people say that a former SEC (widely accepted as the best conference) defensive player of the year, was/is not good enough, when they never gave him a shot in a regular season game.

I think he should have been able to make a roster as a backup DE or LB, and been given some playing time. Can't properly evaluate talent if they never get a chance in game situations.

Him being gay has more to it than people will publicly admit.

[Royalty]

I still don't think Sam got a proper chance in the NFL. He seems like the type of guy who shows up on gameday, rather than a practice all-pro.

I just can't fathom how people say that a former SEC (widely accepted as the best conference) defensive player of the year, was/is not good enough, when they never gave him a shot in a regular season game.

I think he should have been able to make a roster as a backup DE or LB, and been given some playing time. Can't properly evaluate talent if they never get a chance in game situations.

Him being gay has more to it than people will publicly admit.

I'm sure that some of the players had a serious problem with it

[Coach is Back!]

I personally think Sam is good and will get picked up the NFL within a couple of years. Just needs to add size but has a great work ethic. It's going to take time. But people want to watch football and not the side shows...meaning the other reason why I don't think anyone kept him was the focus was on "the agenda" and not football. Seriously, you've got cameras and news crews following around a rookie because he's gay? I couldn't give a shit whether he was gay or not as long as he can play football. But as usual the media made into something other than football.....on the fucking football field.

[Walter Sobchak]

I personally think Sam is good and will get picked up the NFL within a couple of years. Just needs to add size but has a great work ethic. It's going to take time. But people want to watch football and not the side shows...meaning the other reason why I don't think anyone kept him was the focus was on "the agenda" and not football. Seriously, you've got cameras and news crews following around a rookie because he's gay? I couldn't give a shit whether he was gay or not as long as he can play football. But as usual the media made into something other than football.....on the fucking football field.

Too small to play DE, too slow for LB, not much against the run, and really not a very good edge rusher.

6-2" and 260 and struggled to run 4.9 with a 25-inch vertical and 8 second cone drill. Those numbers don't cut it against the type of athlete in the NFL. Even if he is high energy with a good motor, pro guards and tackles will maul him.

He had 9 sacks in 3 years at Mizzou, then 11 his Senior year. I'd like to see him get at least one chance, but guys who know football say he just isn't at that level.

[King Shizzo]

Too small to play DE, too slow for LB, not much against the run, and really not a very good edge rusher.

6-2" and 260 and struggled to run 4.9 with a 25-inch vertical and 8 second cone drill. Those numbers don't cut it against the type of athlete in the NFL. Even if he is high energy with a good motor, pro guards and tackles will maul him.

He had 9 sacks in 3 years at Mizzou, then 11 his Senior year. I'd like to see him get at least one chance, but guys who know football say he just isn't at that level.

I give you Rob Ninkovich (DE, Patriots). The ultimate "motor guy" not a great athlete by any means, but just has a nose for the football and always hustles. If a guy like Rob can turn into a good starter, then I feel that Sam could do the same, if given a fair shot.

Ninkovich is also 6'2 and clocked a 4.91 40 time 

[TuHolmes]

I don't believe any coach or owner or GM will not sign a guy they think can help them win.

Football and most sports are about the bottom line.

If you can do it, you get to... end of story.

[Walter Sobchak]

I give you Rob Ninkovich. The ultimate "motor guy" not a great athlete by any means, but just has a nose for the football and always hustles. If a guy like Rob can turn into a good starter, then I feel that Sam could do the same, if given a fair shot.

Two NFL teams gave him a shot and he just wasn't at that level.

In other words....your 3-4 defense becomes a 3-3 with that guy on the field and that doesn't work in the NFL

[King Shizzo]

Two NFL teams gave him a shot and he just wasn't at that level.

In other words....your 3-4 defense becomes a 3-3 with that guy on the field and that doesn't work in the NFL

I just find it Ludacris that an SEC defensive player of the year can't even make it as a backup on someone's defense.

Didn't he get a couple sacks and a decent amount of tackles, in what little preseason action he had?

[Coach is Back!]

I just find it Ludacris that an SEC defensive player of the year can't even make it as a backup on someone's defense.

Didn't he get a couple sacks and a decent amount of tackles, in what little preseason action he had?

This will kill me....but I agree. Should have kept him on at least the practice squad.

[Walter Sobchak]

I give you Rob Ninkovich (DE, Patriots). The ultimate "motor guy" not a great athlete by any means, but just has a nose for the football and always hustles. If a guy like Rob can turn into a good starter, then I feel that Sam could do the same, if given a fair shot.

Ninkovich is also 6'2 and clocked a 4.91 40 time 

Shizzo....I'm not really familiar with RN's pro career, but he's a Chicago area kid isn't he?

My guesses:
More explosive athlete than Sam?
Maybe a second skill like special teams?
Plays DE across from Chandler Jones (?) and that helps?

The NFL just doesn't seem to think Sam has what it takes

[King Shizzo]

Shizzo....I'm not really familiar with RN's pro career, but he's a Chicago area kid isn't he?

My guesses:
More explosive athlete than Sam?
Maybe a second skill like special teams?
Plays DE across from Chandler Jones (?) and that helps?

The NFL just doesn't seem to think Sam has what it takes

Sam needed to find the right situation. The Rams were loaded at DE and only drafted him as a kind gesture to a Missouri college star.

Jerry Jones only picked him up for the publicity, and didn't even give him an opportunity on the field, in a real game situation.

I think he would be a perfect fit for teams like the Eagles or Patriots. Franchises that ask for everyone to buy into the system, and where most players are cogs out to serve for the greater good of the team.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

I just find it Ludacris that an SEC defensive player of the year can't even make it as a backup on someone's defense.

Didn't he get a couple sacks and a decent amount of tackles, in what little preseason action he had?

Bust's happen all the time in Football. The homo was smoke and mirrors. He blows. He'll never play in the NFL...Kids are getting better and better at the High School, college level. Way too much talent out there for this attention whore to even get another look. Going to the Cfl is the kiss of death. Now he's gonna have a lot of tape against scrubs.

[King Shizzo]

Bust's happen all the time in Football. The homo was smoke and mirrors. He blows.

Yes, but 99% of the busts were able to get a chance to "bust" on the field.

By all accounts, the scouting report on Sam is spot on: Not the best athlete, not the best practice player, but shows up to play on game day.

We all saw the proof of that his senior year at Missouri. He was a beast against some of the best teams in CFB.  Missouri wouldn't have made it to the SEC championship game in 2013, without Sam.