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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #50 on: February 17, 2016, 11:46:00 AM »
Hey BR hope your well.


What did you run for PCT?

all good thanks, I ran 500 iu eod for a total of 5000iu and 20mg nolvadex for 5 weeks.

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2016, 11:46:54 AM »
33 now and feel like my test is naturally higher than it was in my 20's.

Feel more assertive, aggressive and physically powerful but in a calm way even though I do have more violent thoughts.

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2016, 11:47:43 AM »
I am natural now and have plenty of motivation to train, actually growing a bit.
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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2016, 02:19:45 PM »
I am natural now and have plenty of motivation to train, actually growing a bit.
I bet you are.....

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2016, 02:27:50 PM »
why so? did you come off?

my libido hasn't suffered. Just less impulsive.

I'm just old, and feel old lol

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2016, 02:31:26 PM »
I'm just old, and feel old lol
HOW OLD?STILL NUTS THE PIC..DIE HARD

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #56 on: February 17, 2016, 03:05:27 PM »
I'm just old, and feel old lol
Kwon my brother,over your many years here you have aged like a fine wine!   :D

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #57 on: February 17, 2016, 03:34:52 PM »
Kwon my brother,over your many years here you have aged like a fine wine!   :D

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Still, test is at an all time-low and so is the libido.

Feel weak and tired and the Missus been complaining about "Been ages since we had sex!"

Starting to feel like Primemuscle.

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #58 on: February 17, 2016, 03:35:25 PM »
LOL, there a a few studies out there showing that just 25mg clomid per day will double test levels. Bodybuilders take way too much clomid after their cycles and wonder why they turn into crying bitches.  100/100/50/50 clomid pct, crazy retarded bodybuilder dosages.


Clomiphene citrate effects on testosterone/estrogen ratio in male hypogonadism.
Shabsigh A1, Kang Y, Shabsign R, Gonzalez M, Liberson G, Fisch H, Goluboff E.
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Abstract
AIM:
Symptomatic late-onset hypogonadism is associated not only with a decline in serum testosterone, but also with a rise in serum estradiol. These endocrine changes negatively affect libido, sexual function, mood, behavior, lean body mass, and bone density. Currently, the most common treatment is exogenous testosterone therapy. This treatment can be associated with skin irritation, gynecomastia, nipple tenderness, testicular atrophy, and decline in sperm counts. In this study we investigated the efficacy of clomiphene citrate in the treatment of hypogonadism with the objectives of raising endogenous serum testosterone (T) and improving the testosterone/estrogen (T/E) ratio.

METHODS:
Our cohort consisted of 36 Caucasian men with hypogonadism defined as serum testosterone level less than 300 ng/dL. Each patient was treated with a daily dose of 25 mg clomiphene citrate and followed prospectively. Analysis of baseline and follow-up serum levels of testosterone and estradiol levels were performed.

RESULTS:
The mean age was 39 years, and the mean pretreatment testosterone and estrogen levels were 247.6 +/- 39.8 ng/dL and 32.3 +/- 10.9, respectively. By the first follow-up visit (4-6 weeks), the mean testosterone level rose to 610.0 +/- 178.6 ng/dL (P < 0.00001). Moreover, the T/E ratio improved from 8.7 to 14.2 (P < 0.001). There were no side effects reported by the patients.

CONCLUSIONS:
Low dose clomiphene citrate is effective in elevating serum testosterone levels and improving the testosterone/estradiol ratio in men with hypogonadism. This therapy represents an alternative to testosterone therapy by stimulating the endogenous androgen production pathway.


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I think I was a hyper responder to clomid, probably like one of the guys in the above study who got his test up to 1200 ng/dl on 25mg clomid per day.
I had 650 ng/dl on 10 mg every two days. I tried a higher dose but it made me moody.



I took just 10mg pharma nolvadex for PCT for my first cycle every night before bed and woke up every morning with massive erections. Never experienced anything like that, even on the 500mg test I was just on.

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #59 on: February 17, 2016, 05:38:27 PM »
Just had blood work done after taking 5 months off and test levels were smack dab in the middle of the reference range. I'm 43 so was kinda surprised...thought they would be lower.

Mentally I still had drive and motivation, but what killed me was the injuries I was fighting while I came off. Couldn't train properly and I think that was the biggest factor in losing most of the muscle and gaining the fat I did.

I did a Nolva/clomid PCT. I love clomid for PCT but I will never take Nolva again for anything.

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #60 on: February 17, 2016, 11:23:01 PM »
Just had blood work done after taking 5 months off and test levels were smack dab in the middle of the reference range. I'm 43 so was kinda surprised...thought they would be lower.

Mentally I still had drive and motivation, but what killed me was the injuries I was fighting while I came off. Couldn't train properly and I think that was the biggest factor in losing most of the muscle and gaining the fat I did.

I did a Nolva/clomid PCT. I love clomid for PCT but I will never take Nolva again for anything.

Why? What issues did you have with Nolva?

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2016, 02:52:23 AM »
Why? What issues did you have with Nolva?

Was at work one day and all of a sudden I started getting double vision.....couldn't focus on anything. Lasted for about 2 minutes, then went away. Didn't know what was going on so that night I went to the Hospital. When they tested my blood pressure it was 185 (can't remember what the lower number was). But my blood pressure is NEVER high, and the only thing I was taking at the time was Nolva, and the only reason I was taking the nolva is because I ran out of Clomid a few weeks earlier.
Stopped taking the Nolva immediately and started monitoring my blood pressure. Within 2 weeks it had dropped back down to 130-ish /80-ish range.

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2016, 03:06:07 AM »
all your might coming from a small ampule and pills :D


It does sound a bit sad. Then again: you only live once, and I'd rather be mighty due to chemical enhancements than to never be mighty at all.

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Re: how do you guys feel on low test?
« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2016, 07:54:24 AM »
Clomid is by far the weirdest stuff i've ever took.

One hour after the catch i feel like life is meaningless, i want to cry, almost i want to die. it's a deep feeling.

Then one hour after i'm euphoric.

Strange. Clomid makes me a bit agressive. If i take it at nightime i can't sleep.