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Ted Cruz’s Support MORE THAN DOUBLES Following GOP Debate; Surges to Second Place; RINOs Crash

Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina and Dr. Ben Carson moved up in the polls the most in the first polls conducted following the first GOP presidential debates.

In a new NBC News/Survey Monkey poll released on Sunday, Texas Senator Ted Cruz, a constitutional conservative, catapulted into second place overall, increasing by a whopping 7% over the prior poll, putting him at 13% overall, more than doubling his prior support of 6%, according to the poll.

Cruz, a former national collegiate debate champion, soared despite having his debate performance largely put on mute mode by major media outlets, including FOX News.

Businesswoman Carly Fiorina, who most believe won the “happy hour” debate among the bottom seven candidates, surged 6%, leapfrogging several candidates and is now tied for fourth place with Florida Senator Marco Rubio, whose numbers were unchanged following the debate.

Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson increased his poll numbers by three points, moving into third place overall. Carson was considered to have one of the strongest closing statements of any candidate in either debate.

Overall, it was a terrible night, according to the poll, for establishment RINO candidates. Establishment-backed candidate Jeb Bush, who has constantly been pushed by media outlets as the inevitable GOP nominee, fell from second place all the way to being tied for fifth place with Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. Both Bush and Walker had three points shaved off their prior to the debate numbers following their uninspiring debate performances.

Another RINO, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, who got into a heated brouhaha with Kentucky Senator Rand Paul over the Fourth Amendment and NSA spying, crashed by 2/3, falling all the way to 1% from 3%. Rand Paul dropped 1%, but is now only 2% below Jeb Bush.

Ohio Governor John Kasich, who sounded like a big government progressive during the debate and was roundly praised by both liberal media and FOX News pundits, actually lost support, losing a full 1/3 of his prior supporters.

Below is the new breakdown for the still crowded GOP field following the first debates, according to the new NBC News/Survey Monkey poll:

Donald Trump – 23% (up 1%)
Ted Cruz – 13% (up 7%)
Ben Carson – 11% (up 3%)
Carly Fiorina – 8% (up 6%)
Marco Rubio – 8% (unchanged)
Scott Walker – 7% (down 3%)
Jeb Bush – 7% (down 3%)
Rand Paul – 5% (down 1%)
Mike Huckabee – 5% (up 1%)
Rick Perry – 2% (unchanged)
John Kasich – 2% (down 1%)
Bobby Jindal – 1% (unchanged)
Chris Christie – 1% (down 2%)
Lindsey Graham – 1% (unchanged)
Rick Santorum – 0% (down 1%)
George Pataki – 0% (unchanged)
Real estate tycoon Donald Trump helped himself slightly during the debate, according to the poll. Trump, who has left the political class shocked and dumbfounded over his surprising success, increased by 1% and leads at 23%, 10% over Cruz’s 13%.

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Re: Ted Cruz’s Support MORE THAN DOUBLES Following GOP Debate
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 09:12:42 AM »
AWESOME. Cruz soars and Jeb plummets. this is the direction things need to be going..

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AWESOME. Cruz soars and Jeb plummets. this is the direction things need to be going..

agreed.   Libs usually win in new Hampshire.  If Trump/Cruz wins in NH, Jeb might be done.   Cause he can't win in the south after that.

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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 01:04:12 PM »
yep...if Heb doesnt win either of those hes toast. its  along way out still obviously but as of now Trump is doubling up the field in New Hampshire

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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 03:00:20 PM »
yep...if Heb doesnt win either of those hes toast. its  along way out still obviously but as of now Trump is doubling up the field in New Hampshire

Another one just came out with Trump at 32%

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Another one just came out with Trump at 32%

nonsense.   Political experts on getbig said trump would never make a mark in the polls without spending his own $.

Surely all of these polls are outliers. 

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nonsense.   Political experts on getbig said trump would never make a mark in the polls without spending his own $.

Surely all of these polls are outliers. 

It's still a long road to hoe.

I'm not as dead set at completely ruling him out as the nominee like others here but it should get tougher to maintain such a commanding lead as the pool gets smaller.

People are loving to see all these vicious beat downs he is bestowing upon reporters and moderators. Nobody does it better than Trump. It's just hard seeing that alone being enough to take it all the way to Cleveland for the nomination. On the other hand, Americans seemingly can't get enough of this guy and his "take no prisoners" attitude. Can that energy last another year??

I'm loving this so far though. It's been very entertaining.

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It's still a long road to hoe.

I'm not as dead set at completely ruling him out as the nominee like others here but it should get tougher to maintain such a commanding lead as the pool gets smaller.

People are loving to see all these vicious beat downs he is bestowing upon reporters and moderators. Nobody does it better than Trump. It's just hard seeing that alone being enough to take it all the way to Cleveland for the nomination. On the other hand, Americans seemingly can't get enough of this guy and his "take no prisoners" attitude. Can that energy last another year??

I'm loving this so far though. It's been very entertaining.

agreed on all counts.  I'm just glad Cruz is #2 right now.   Let the liberal plant crash and busn, and let cruz take the crown with dignity.  As long as the shithead rinos and their kneepadding getbiggers don't run again.

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agreed on all counts.  I'm just glad Cruz is #2 right now.   Let the liberal plant crash and busn, and let cruz take the crown with dignity.  As long as the shithead rinos and their kneepadding getbiggers don't run again.

If Trump is going to go down it will be because of a prolonged period of questioning of HIS POLICY that exposes him to the base over a period of weeks/months. One "gotcha" type question isn't going to cut it. When it comes to hitting him with the personal stuff or falsehoods he's pretty much bulletproof. It will take a slow erosion to bring him down.

Anytime the move is to slander him by twisting his words (i.e. the mexican reporter in Laredo) or attempt to hit him with a cheapshot(i.e. Megyn Kelly)... it is just the same as putting on the gloves and stepping into the ring with a prime Mike Tyson.  The result isn't going to be pretty.

He'll get the wall to wall media coverage for 3 or 4 days. His large support group will roar in approval for something that has zero to do with policy. He'll be all over social media. Even the people who don't particularly care for him will say "damn he punked his/her ass" when they see it on their twitter feed. It's a distraction from the very basics of WHAT WILL HE DO SPECIFICALLY ONCE IN OFFICE.

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If Trump is going to go down it will be because of a prolonged period of questioning of HIS POLICY that exposes him to the base over a period of weeks/months.

I've caught MSNBC three times in the past 24 hours.

ALL THREE times, they said the same thing "what are trumps POLICY POSITIONS"?  Trump put out a book on it in 2011, a small collection of positions, and it's out of print but coming back shortly. 

We agree again.  IF trump goes down, it'll be a slow erosion of support from positions.  however, it's been a month and he's managed to say little more than "America, f**k yea!" and it's working great.