Dorian yates HIT?

[oldschoolfan]

He did use one set to failure. He did non taxing warm ups as needed. For a guy that can do 6-8 reps with 410lbs in the incline press he has to warm up. Doing non taxing warm ups with 135-225 and a few reps with 315lbs is a warm up. Most exercises he would do one warm up set. I can't believe some can't grasp the concept of one set to failure. For an ordinary guy who uses 225lbs for his inclines to 6-8 reps the warm up might be 135-8 and 185 for 4reps. Then it's the 225lbs for failure.

great post there isnt one person in the world if very few maybe elite power lifters that do 405 inclines on the first set. even mentzer in his earlier years stressed proper warm ups .

[illuminati]

He did use one set to failure. He did non taxing warm ups as needed. For a guy that can do 6-8 reps with 410lbs in the incline press he has to warm up. Doing non taxing warm ups with 135-225 and a few reps with 315lbs is a warm up. Most exercises he would do one warm up set. I can't believe some can't grasp the concept of one set to failure. For an ordinary guy who uses 225lbs for his inclines to 6-8 reps the warm up might be 135-8 and 185 for 4reps. Then it's the 225lbs for failure.

Oh no no no
You're forgetting that RMJ knows Dorian personally & trained regularly
with Dorian at Temple gym  - He knows exactly what Dorian did & how
much PEDs he took as he injected Dorian.

There's no arguing or not believing RMJ - Ask Him.

[Rmj11]

Oh no no no
You're forgetting that RMJ knows Dorian personally & trained regularly
with Dorian at Temple gym  - He knows exactly what Dorian did & how
much PEDs he took as he injected Dorian.

There's no arguing or not believing RMJ - Ask Him.

Where did I say that I did?

[Rmj11]

He did use one set to failure. He did non taxing warm ups as needed. For a guy that can do 6-8 reps with 410lbs in the incline press he has to warm up. Doing non taxing warm ups with 135-225 and a few reps with 315lbs is a warm up. Most exercises he would do one warm up set. I can't believe some can't grasp the concept of one set to failure. For an ordinary guy who uses 225lbs for his inclines to 6-8 reps the warm up might be 135-8 and 185 for 4reps. Then it's the 225lbs for failure.

Again wrong. That's not how he built himself up. His training is never properly scrutinsed but instead is seen as some sort of mythical way of training when in fact it's just the pyramid scheme or a variation of it. It's based on the delorme watkins method which bodybuilders have used in various guises for many decades, since the 1940's in fact. It's nothing new or unique. Just one of the many different ways to train thats out there. Yet the hit cult think it's something magical and praise it as the only way to train. It's not and never has been.

Yates, like most bodybuilders, used different methods to build up. He used pyramid sets, straight sets, reverse sets and drop sets to build his body. Let's not forget the fact that Yates did weightlifting and powerlifting along with martial arts in his teens so he already had a good foundation to build on when he took up bodybuilding at 21. He used traditional methods to build up and not hit.

His old chest routine from the 80's was this

Bench press 135x10 200x8 265x8 285x7 310x5 pyramid sets
Incline press 250x5 240x5 230x5 reverse sets
Incline flys 70x8 70x7 70x6 straight sets

Source: his 1985 to 1990 journal files

Doing just one set to failure will not result in maximising gains. You cannot make continuous gains on just one set. It's a myth.

[Rmj11]

Here Yates states that he did an hour and a half in the gym, not the 45 minute bs he spouts these days. Oh and he did more sets too not this one set to failure crap.

[illuminati]

And ?

[Rmj11]

And it proves Dorian lies about his HIT bs.

I know, right? 😄

[bhank]

All training works if you add food rest and recovery

[illuminati]

I know, right? 😄

And ?

[illuminati]

All training works if you add food rest and recovery

Not True - Yours does not - The awful skinny no muscle body
you have is Proof of that & don't forget the 25yrs of Steroids
& GH you've been shoveling in.

[bhank]

Not True - Yours does not - The awful skinny no muscle body
you have is Proof of that & don't forget the 25yrs of Steroids
& GH you've been shoveling in.

If you say so personally I think my size and condition for my age is great.

[Rmj11]

And I'm wrong yet again.

I know 😄

[illuminati]

I know 😄

And ?

[Donny]

Doesn´t really matter how he trained ..he was Mr O.
do people on here really think Arnold trained like he says in his books? Weider Double split & all the other Bollox 

Wake up smell the coffee chaps ... end of the day results are what counts & Dorian was the King ...Mr O 

[Rmj11]

Doesn´t really matter how he trained ..he was Mr O.
do people on here really think Arnold trained like he says in his books? Weider Double split & all the other Bollox 

Wake up smell the coffee chaps ... end of the day results are what counts & Dorian was the King ...Mr O 

Arnold trained like Yates and Yates trained like Arnold...plenty of sets and reps.

[_bruce_]

Volume is essential.
Dorian's intensity made him feel important but it was not that crucial to his development.

[Donny]

Volume is essential.
Dorian's intensity made him feel important but it was not that crucial to his development.

To a certain point i agree as Bill Pearl always said, leave the Gym with Gas in the tank.
I think Dorian´s Discipline was the deciding factor
the same could be said about Arnold

[_bruce_]

To a certain point i agree as Bill Pearl always said, leave the Gym with Gas in the tank.
I think Dorian´s Discipline was the deciding factor
the same could be said about Arnold

Most likely as he was really spot on with his approach.
Dorian may, unnecessarily, have pulverized himself with the weights being too heavy.

[oldtimer1]

Again wrong. That's not how he built himself up. His training is never properly scrutinsed but instead is seen as some sort of mythical way of training when in fact it's just the pyramid scheme or a variation of it. It's based on the delorme watkins method which bodybuilders have used in various guises for many decades, since the 1940's in fact. It's nothing new or unique. Just one of the many different ways to train thats out there. Yet the hit cult think it's something magical and praise it as the only way to train. It's not and never has been.

Yates, like most bodybuilders, used different methods to build up. He used pyramid sets, straight sets, reverse sets and drop sets to build his body. Let's not forget the fact that Yates did weightlifting and powerlifting along with martial arts in his teens so he already had a good foundation to build on when he took up bodybuilding at 21. He used traditional methods to build up and not hit.

His old chest routine from the 80's was this

Bench press 135x10 200x8 265x8 285x7 310x5 pyramid sets
Incline press 250x5 240x5 230x5 reverse sets
Incline flys 70x8 70x7 70x6 straight sets

Source: his 1985 to 1990 journal files

Doing just one set to failure will not result in maximising gains. You cannot make continuous gains on just one set. It's a myth.

Talking about what he did from 1993 forward.  Everyone's training evolves and so did Yates. His best gains were with his one set to training method. Prior to that during his Night of the Champions he did two work sets per exercise.  Yes, prior to that he did more sets. His one set to failure method isn't a hard concept to grasp but you can see to get it.

Again 1993 forward he did three, two, one or no warm up sets prior to his one set to failure.  The warm ups were non taxing sets.  Way below anything close to failure. 

Your anger with his training is bizarre.

[joswift]

Talking about what he did from 1993 forward.  Everyone's training evolves and so did Yates. His best gains were with his one set to training method. Prior to that during his Night of the Champions he did two work sets per exercise.  Yes, prior to that he did more sets. His one set to failure method isn't a hard concept to grasp but you can see to get it.

Again 1993 forward he did three, two, one or no warm up sets prior to his one set to failure.  The warm ups were non taxing sets.  Way below anything close to failure. 

Your anger with his training is bizarre.

he didnt train to failure in his Blood and Guts video

[oldtimer1]

he didnt train to failure in his Blood and Guts video

Of course he did. So he could have gotten more reps?  How would you ascertain that?

[joswift]

Of course he did. So he could have gotten more reps?  How would you ascertain that?

he could have done an assited rep, a drop set even

He could have pushed way harder than he did in blood and guts

He pushed Chris Cormier way harder than he ever trained.

[illuminati]

Arnold trained like Yates and Yates trained like Arnold...plenty of sets and reps.

And ?

[Rmj11]

And you're so right.

I know. 😁

[illuminati]

I know. Shit & all I'm capable  of is altering other posters comment- That who thick & stupid  - you are. 😁

Try adjusting this one You Pathetic Child Like Khvnt

And ?