Has anyone played The Last of Us?

[loco]

I loved Far Cry 3, but didn't like 4 that much.

For the most part this was no fault of the game, but nonetheless, I still stand behind my two main criticisms:

1.  The game is WAY too similar to Far Cry 3.  I understand the desire to build on a solid mechanical foundaiton, but why was the scenario and story almost exactly the same as well?  The story, characters, and campaign structure are usually more liable to change from one installment of a series to the next (and consider, none of the Far Cry games' stories are related anyway!) than the lower-level game mechanisms and yet I think you could say they made more changes to the latter, if there were some way to measure such things.

Also, I liked Jason way more than the protagonist of Far Cry 4.  I loved the "amoral" character development of Far Cry 3, screw the detractors.

2.  There's a widespread criticism of games (esp. Ubi's open-world output) these days: you spend more time looking at abstract symbols (mini-maps, icons, quest markers, arrows) than the actual game.  For some reason, this really irked me in Far Cry 4.  I felt like I was just rushing from one little dot to the next little blip, staring at a tiny drawing the whole time.

By the way, how did this thread turn into random musings about anything videogame related?

The guy on the radio was hilarious.   

[TuHolmes]

Dishonoured looks good

Never liked the first one.

It was only in 720p (even on PS3) and for some reason that bugged the hell out of me.

[Earl1972]

Dishonoured looks good

great game, i like it so much i'm getting the remastered version on PS4 next week

last of us is great, but moving ladders or pushing ellie on a raft was annoying

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[Earl1972]

Never liked the first one.

It was only in 720p (even on PS3) and for some reason that bugged the hell out of me.

most games on last gen consoles were 720 p atbest and most games on this generation are less than 1080, at least on xbox one

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[TuHolmes]

most games on last gen consoles were 720 p atbest and most games on this generation are less than 1080, at least on xbox one

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PS3 was actually mostly 1080.

Xbox only did 720, but I consider it lazy that people didn't work out the 1080 upscaling for the PS3.

I never really understood why the Xbone is not at 1080. Wanting to put more processing into the pretty metro UI is all I can think of.

[LurkerNoMore]

L4D and Borderlands 2 are the ones I have logged the most hours on in the past.

[cephissus]

PS3 was actually mostly 1080.

Xbox only did 720, but I consider it lazy that people didn't work out the 1080 upscaling for the PS3.

I never really understood why the Xbone is not at 1080. Wanting to put more processing into the pretty metro UI is all I can think of.

There were a HANDFUL of 1080p games from last gen.  Saying most PS3 games ran at 1080p is downright wrong.  This isn't even a "little known secret".  Remember when Wipeout HD came out?  One of the big bullet points everyone was reporting: a TRUE 1080p PS3 game!  Why was this so notable?  Because the vast majority of games (on both consoles) were rendered at sub-720p and upscaled.

[TuHolmes]

There were a HANDFUL of 1080p games from last gen.  Saying most PS3 games ran at 1080p is downright wrong.  This isn't even a "little known secret".  Remember when Wipeout HD came out?  One of the big bullet points everyone was reporting: a TRUE 1080p PS3 game!  Why was this so notable?  Because the vast majority of games (on both consoles) were rendered at sub-720p and upscaled.

My point is that the PS3 was capable of doing 1080p natively and the Xbox 360 could not.

While they both had upscalers, the PS3 didn't have to use one if the game was made at 1080p while the Xbox360 was not capable of doing anything at a native 1080p.

[James28]

My point is that the PS3 was capable of doing 1080p natively and the Xbox 360 could not.

While they both had upscalers, the PS3 didn't have to use one if the game was made at 1080p while the Xbox360 was not capable of doing anything at a native 1080p.

I think Lost Planet was rendered 1080p on 360. Though I might be wrong. Only really care about it on PC as I didn't pay 700 bucks for a 980Ti for nothing.

.... Well, I guess I didn't pay 700 bucks for nothing as I never play PC games. Had a little go on the latest Batman on PS4 last night. Looks pretty. The Bat Mobile effing awesome

[TuHolmes]

I think Lost Planet was rendered 1080p on 360. Though I might be wrong. Only really care about it on PC as I didn't pay 700 bucks for a 980Ti for nothing.

.... Well, I guess I didn't pay 700 bucks for nothing as I never play PC games. Had a little go on the latest Batman on PS4 last night. Looks pretty. The Bat Mobile effing awesome

I'm only about 40% through that game right now myself.

I have always loved the Rocksteady Bat games though. They are truly top notch.

[Earl1972]

PS3 was actually mostly 1080.

Xbox only did 720, but I consider it lazy that people didn't work out the 1080 upscaling for the PS3.

I never really understood why the Xbone is not at 1080. Wanting to put more processing into the pretty metro UI is all I can think of.

no it was not, look on the back of the cover of the last of us which had some of the best graphics on ps3, it says 720

the god of war 3 remaster on ps4 is marketed as "remastered in 1080p, again one of the best looking games on the console

360 boxes said 1080 which was obviously a lie when their new console can't even get 1080

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[TuHolmes]

no it was not, look on the back of the cover of the last of us which had some of the best graphics on ps3, it says 720

the god of war 3 remaster on ps4 is marketed as "remastered in 1080p, again one of the best looking games on the console

360 boxes said 1080 which was obviously a lie when their new console can't even get 1080

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Look below at my clarification.

[Army of One]

Found this quest in The Witcher 3, check the name, should I leave it?

[The Wizard of Truth]

Found this quest in The Witcher 3, check the name, should I leave it?

You will be raped

[The True Adonis]

Found this quest in The Witcher 3, check the name, should I leave it?

LOL yes!!

I saw that on the notice board a few days ago and had to call Jezebelle over to look at it.  She thought it was hilarious.

[Kim Jong Bob]

Fuck fuck fuck
Anyone play arkham night...really good game  but i have played alot of hours and was at like 70% (did alot of sidemission) but its a glutch in the game , the cloudburstctank killed me at the same time i killed him and when i respawned   i cant to shit. It says i mist find him but he is nowhere and i cant  go out of the batmobil and the bridges are closed........im this close to go to the store in central pyongyang and say they must give me my money  back..not that theu will...heard the game is  a massive failute on pc woth alot of nuhs...if anuone started to demand to get the moneu back aube the developers stop selling games that arent finnished  and use the players as free  beta testers

[cephissus]

The reviews are basically making it sound as if MGS V is exactly what I expected (after GZ) and hoped for... MGS 4 + more complex mechanics + deeper scenarios + less story emphasis.

This WILL be the best game of all time.  I can feel it...

At the same time, I wonder if this is the end of an era.  I haven't been following the Kojima/Konami split, but if it means he's losing some budget / personnel then, that's a real shame.  This kind of game only happens when you have the most money and the most talented team under the most talented direction.  That's the REAL definition of independent gaming: the resources to make your dream game come true, with as little compromise as possible.

Kojima is awesome and very fortunate.  Even without Konami, I can't wait to see what he makes next.

[TuHolmes]

Fuck fuck fuck
Anyone play arkham night...really good game  but i have played alot of hours and was at like 70% (did alot of sidemission) but its a glutch in the game , the cloudburstctank killed me at the same time i killed him and when i respawned   i cant to shit. It says i mist find him but he is nowhere and i cant  go out of the batmobil and the bridges are closed........im this close to go to the store in central pyongyang and say they must give me my money  back..not that theu will...heard the game is  a massive failute on pc woth alot of nuhs...if anuone started to demand to get the moneu back aube the developers stop selling games that arent finnished  and use the players as free  beta testers

They took the PC version off of steam because it was so shit... Rocksteady is working on fixing it as we speak.

Apparently they had an outside company do the PC version and they didn't have much quality control.

Submit a bug report to them.

They'll patch it I bet.

[Weedlejuice]

The reviews are basically making it sound as if MGS V is exactly what I expected (after GZ) and hoped for... MGS 4 + more complex mechanics + deeper scenarios + less story emphasis.

This WILL be the best game of all time.  I can feel it...

At the same time, I wonder if this is the end of an era.  I haven't been following the Kojima/Konami split, but if it means he's losing some budget / personnel then, that's a real shame.  This kind of game only happens when you have the most money and the most talented team under the most talented direction.  That's the REAL definition of independent gaming: the resources to make your dream game come true, with as little compromise as possible.

Kojima is awesome and very fortunate.  Even without Konami, I can't wait to see what he makes next.

i ordered this bad boy just for it

[Army of One]

The reviews are basically making it sound as if MGS V is exactly what I expected (after GZ) and hoped for... MGS 4 + more complex mechanics + deeper scenarios + less story emphasis.

This WILL be the best game of all time.  I can feel it...

At the same time, I wonder if this is the end of an era.  I haven't been following the Kojima/Konami split, but if it means he's losing some budget / personnel then, that's a real shame.  This kind of game only happens when you have the most money and the most talented team under the most talented direction.  That's the REAL definition of independent gaming: the resources to make your dream game come true, with as little compromise as possible.

Kojima is awesome and very fortunate.  Even without Konami, I can't wait to see what he makes next.

If mgs v is as good as they say it is, they would raise 100 million with kickstarter funding within a week for mgs6.

[cephissus]

If mgs v is as good as they say it is, they would raise 100 million with kickstarter funding within a week for mgs6.

I have a feeling Konami would only allow Kojima to do metal gear, but how many times has he talked about ending the franchise and moving on?  I suspect this is part of the reason they split.

I want to see what other ideas he has.  Of course, now he's probably not going to have a metal gear budget to back his next idea.  Maybe you're right about kickstarter, though.

i ordered this bad boy just for it

I bought my PS3 when MGS 4 came out.  I still remember walking out of Best Buy with nearly $600 less dollars in my bank account.  My summer job had just ended and I hadn't saved nearly as much as I had hoped, but somehow that only added to the excitement...

[TuHolmes]

I have a feeling Konami would only allow Kojima to do metal gear, but how many times has he talked about ending the franchise and moving on?  I suspect this is part of the reason they split.

I want to see what other ideas he has.  Of course, now he's probably not going to have a metal gear budget to back his next idea.  Maybe you're right about kickstarter, though.

Kojima has already left.

[The True Adonis]

What has boggled my mind is that Kojima is about the only Japanese guy to make a game with story and is about the only talented one from that whole country.  The rest of them only seem to produce button mashers, stupid anime games and poorly executed fantastical hack and slash pointlessness that all feature weird yelling and whining child like sounds.

Kojima is probably hated because he can actually make a great game with a great story and gameplay. 

[el numero uno]

What has boggled my mind is that Kojima is about the only Japanese guy to make a game with story and is about the only talented one from that whole country.  The rest of them only seem to produce button mashers, stupid anime games and poorly executed fantastical hack and slash pointlessness that all feature weird yelling and whining child like sounds.

Kojima is probably hated because he can actually make a great game with a great story and gameplay.  

Legend of Zelda ocarina of time, Silent Hill, the first Resident Evils etc etc. You're either trolling or not very smart.

[cephissus]

What has boggled my mind is that Kojima is about the only Japanese guy to make a game with story and is about the only talented one from that whole country.  The rest of them only seem to produce button mashers, stupid anime games and poorly executed fantastical hack and slash pointlessness that all feature weird yelling and whining child like sounds.

Kojima is probably hated because he can actually make a great game with a great story and gameplay.  

I've always loved Japanese games.  

Their best games are much more beautiful and have "tighter" mechanics.

The latter point is a little hard to describe without examples.  The main one that sticks out in my mind: health systems.  Many Japanese games don't feature health bars, or have very small health bars.  You aren't supposed to get hit in these games; taking damage is almost never necessary.  Many players master the levels, and then clear them "perfectly".  In contrast, Western games have never been like this.  They've always featured big health bars and ample health replenishment.  Taking damage is inevitable.

While I'm not going to argue which style is inherently better, I prefer the Japanese style.  When the player must be able to clear a stage without taking damage, every aspect of the game must be carefully considered.  When you have a huge health bar and the environment is littered with health packs, the developers can get away with much sloppier design.

Have you ever tried the Souls series (Demon's Souls, Dark Souls I/II, Bloodborne)?  These are modern "action RPGs" with a subtle method of storytelling.  There are few cutscenes or dialogs, but the "story" is told through visual details and item descriptions.  You have to piece the story together on your own, and doing so is quite fun.  The attention to detail is meticulous.

Anyway, I mention these games because they have almost no anime trappings and show the strengths of traditional Japanese game design in an era where, sadly, many Japanese developers seem to have lost their way.

Some great Japanese developers:

Platinum games (hideki kamiya, formerly shinji mikami)
Nintendo (at times... I wouldn't call them too great these days: Shigeru Miyamoto, Yokoi Gunpei (RIP))
FROM software (hidetaka miyazaki)
CAVE
Capcom (many... most gone now.  studio has had its ups and downs over the years)
SCE Japan Studio (Fumito Ueda -- departed now)