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Jizmo

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Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« on: August 19, 2015, 06:44:43 AM »
Was just thinking about switching from 800 test 800 NPP to a lower test dosage...

Anyone of you guys ever ran low test with high NPP ?
im cutting of course, would probably never run low test during a bulk

ive ran low test high tren when i ran tren for the first time, but once i got accustomed to the sides i never ran test low again.
always high everything, lol

actually ive probably never ran test lower than 500mg during the last 2 years, except for a short cruise

right now im thinking about 200mg test, 1g npp. will probably add 200mg DHT too or so

basically i just wanna see how that changes the look/ libido/ feeling compared to high test high npp (i use letro as AI, but i feel like when i eat a couple more carbs i still bloat up, especially in the face).
when cutting my libido is always kinda shit but maybe a highish trt dosage without AI changes that for the better (dunno if its AIs which kill my libido but that might be the reason).

if i cant see a difference in feeling / look for shit after 3-4 weeks then ill just go back on high test high npp i guess.

just experimenting. im not worried about prolactin or ED issues btw.

anyone got experience with trt test + high dose NPP?

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2015, 08:35:44 AM »
i think you will get less result from low test simply because it will lower your total amount of gear
for cutting test will keep you full and strong no reason to cut it imo, unless you are competing and getting close to a show
the dht drugs and diet pretty much cancels any bloating anyway

if you are lucky enough to not get prolactin sides with very high nandrolone and low test why not

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2015, 09:30:10 AM »
Those are the two main compounds I use. I typically don't go lower the 500-750 test. I loose a lot of thickness when dropping test dose low.

Npp is kind of a weird compound for me. I feel like it starts to act almost like tren at higher doses. It makes me sweat all night it's harder to hold on to higher scale weight.

If you run high Npp low test I would expect to lose a lot of thickness strength scale weight. You will look a lot smaller but it will definitely be easier to cut lower estrogen water retention etc.

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2015, 09:37:33 AM »
I would cut with high test anyway, if you're "too big" when leaned out, drop the test!
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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2015, 02:07:54 PM »
Try it. fuck it sounds good lower test is good with tren... I've ran 375 test e 300npp 300 tren while back was good but not 1 g nPP. ide like to see how u like it and feel/look in that

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2015, 02:15:35 PM »
When I ran like 800mg NPP

It felt very different to deca

Like you say almost a tren like feel to it with more fullness
Sweats at night ect.

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2015, 05:47:01 PM »
When I ran like 800mg NPP

It felt very different to deca

Like you say almost a tren like feel to it with more fullness
Sweats at night ect.

I don't know if this is possible or makes sense but I actually gain weight look thicker fuller and have more water when my Npp dose is around 300-400mg. When I push it up I get a bit stringier and tighter. This is with the same test dose. I think for pure bulking moderate Npp higher test is great.

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2015, 12:03:51 AM »
some people claim nandrolone is the only AAS that has direct fat burning abilities, i think bill roberts wrote about that. or some other guru.
tren+npp are the best AAS anyway in my book (with test)

i dunno.

the thing that im most interested in is high test high npp VS low test high npp

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2015, 03:51:33 AM »
I can attest that anavar does really help to burn fat.

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2015, 04:40:35 AM »
Think what jizmos saying is technically nandrolones
Are the only ones that have been backed to burn fat

But we all know test and anavar - burn fat

And what ever anyone says tren is one of the best fat burners out there
On my body anyway.


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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2015, 04:56:22 AM »
yeah, high androgens of course burn fat through several pathways, but the essence was that nandrolone (or 19nors in general, so tren too) had a different pathway of causing fat loss other than the androgenic effects (tren does combine both so thats why its the shit lol)

just something in the back of my mind, whatever

ofc there are studies on anavar, test etc that show increased (visceral) fat loss and so on too

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Re: Cutting on low test / high anabolic
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2015, 06:24:31 AM »
Shit forgot for a second tren was a 19nor

Probably the strongest one haha