Welcome in Europe ... Immigrants

[Stephano]

Exactly. I personally couldn't care less. Could push a button to nuke them all just to reduce the population in that region. Would be in favour for all. They would do the same if given a chance, have no doubt about it.

Absolutely.  What we're seeing is a hostile invasion, and it should be treated as such.  What we need is another man like Charles Martel, Godfrey of Bouillon, or Baldwin the Leper -- men whose swords ran red with the blood of our enemies -- but I'm afraid they don't make them like they used to, and our pathetic "leaders" are actually people like CaptainCuck, who would rather give up the fight, lie down, and surrender utterly.  (Muh economy and globalism.)

[MORTALCOIL]

LOL, yes, it's people like ME who give up the fight...probably one of the only ones who actually has been involved in any sort of fight against radicalism, as opposed to sitting on a computer my whole life, reading propagandised and demonstrably false articles, written by morons like Obstidan, who deny history, and try to pin everything down to conspiracy theory's and Zionist agendas . It's hilarious

YOUR problem, Stephano, is lack of any sort of thinking in general. You cannot even differentiate between legal migration of a symbiotic nature and global trading, which is the reason why countries like Germany have been able to build their economy's back up with such success, and the illegal, parasitic type which i have quite clearly stated i am against. Controlled migration, involving a screening process and limited numbers is great for Europe, it builds up the economies of all the European countries you wank over, and ensures co-operation and fair trading which help all of us in Europe.
Illegal immigration, tolerating religious fundamentalists and pathetic human rights laws which stop us dealing with the insidious elements of multiculturalism, ruin this country, and I am 100% against.

You and your retard friends here, have absolutely no understanding of any of the concepts you speak of.

At last, someone making sense.

[Stephano]

LOL, yes, it's people like ME who give up the fight...probably one of the only ones who actually has been involved in any sort of fight against radicalism, as opposed to sitting on a computer my whole life, reading propagandised and demonstrably false articles, written by morons like Obstidan, who deny history, and try to pin everything down to conspiracy theory's and Zionist agendas . It's hilarious

YOUR problem, Stephano, is lack of any sort of thinking in general. You cannot even differentiate between legal migration of a symbiotic nature and global trading, which is the reason why countries like Germany have been able to build their economy's back up with such success, and the illegal, parasitic type which i have quite clearly stated i am against. Controlled migration, involving a screening process and limited numbers is great for Europe, it builds up the economies of all the European countries you wank over, and ensures co-operation and fair trading which help all of us in Europe.
Illegal immigration, tolerating religious fundamentalists and pathetic human rights laws which stop us dealing with the insidious elements of multiculturalism, ruin this country, and I am 100% against.

You and your retard friends here, have absolutely no understanding of any of the concepts you speak of.

Just stop.  Your agenda is clear.  You're a globalist that supports "controlled migration", makes pathetic excuses for the "women and children" invading our lands, and speaks of Europe's "obligations."  Where the invading horde is the obvious enemy, you and people like you are the more insidious enemy.

Also note that these "refugees" are not interested in physical sanctuary in the first safe harbor.  They're interested in infiltrating countries where they'll receive the most benefits.  (Germany, Sweden, England.)  They are not worthy of our pity, and nobody is forcing their hand.  They should all be treated without a shred of mercy.

[MORTALCOIL]

Just stop.  Your agenda is clear.  You're a globalist that supports "controlled migration", makes pathetic excuses for the "women and children" invading our lands, and speaks of Europe's "obligations."  Where the invading horde is the obvious enemy, you and people like you are the more insidious enemy.

Also note that these "refugees" are not interested in physical sanctuary in the first safe harbor.  They're interested in infiltrating countries where they'll receive the most benefits.  (Germany, Sweden, England.)  They are not worthy of our pity, and nobody is forcing their hand.  They should all be treated without a shred of mercy.

I see tinfoil in your near future.

[Kim Jong Bob]

The EU needs to consult with Kim Jong Bob on this issue.

they should....did you hear about that muslim terrorist attack we had in pyongyang? No cause we dont allow them in best korea

[Stephano]

You're failing miserably again to comprehend anything i've said. It's really quite tedious now. You're like a broken record, constantly repeating yourself in defence of claims which haven't even been made. It doesn't matter that you think they should be treated without mercy, because you're the sort of spineless, incompetent moron that isn't capable of acting upon anything yourself, other than spewing incomprehensible bullshit on internet forums. Physically, you don't have the balls to get out of your house and join in any sort of fight, and intellectually, you haven't the slightest hope of arguing a logical point in the hope of persuading others to subscribe to your confused and nonsensical way of thinking.

I've made my points clear so there's not much point in going round in circles now with a moron who's content to attack strawmen rather than admit he's wrong.

Captain Cuck has got his panties in a bunch.  Yes, you've made your points clear.

We have an obligation to take in migrants

It's not MY obligation for fuck sake...it's our countries LEGAL obligation,

Millions have fled the war there, and if you seen the circumstances facing them, you’d understand why. Same with Iraq and parts of Africa; not every person in these countries is some radicalised extremist, most that are fleeing are young families who have had their homes destroyed and/or are facing starvation and ethnic cleansing due to the conflicts that we fund and are actively involved in.

 (Awww.  How fucking sad.   )

I've stated quite clearly what i believe the best ways are to deal with this.

 (Not really.  You just keep saying, "it's the government's fault," "we have an obligation," and "poor women and children.")

And no, for me to say "Europe for Europeans" would mean that i haven't a clue about the benefits of legal migration or how our economy prospers under a globalised marketplace.  I welcome migrants that want to come here legally and accept our culture and live by our laws

 

it's people like ME who give up the fight...probably one of the only ones who actually has been involved in any sort of fight against radicalism,

 (ANTIFA, maybe?  You fucking cuck.)

[Donny]

they should....did you hear about that muslim terrorist attack we had in pyongyang? No cause we dont allow them in best korea

same BS in every thread. you are one sorry ass   are you on some kind of Medication?

[da_vinci]

How to stop the insanity. This is the question for those of us who aren't blind to the realities of Islam and its horrific consequences on non-Muslim countries.

Us, the average Joe Blow with no political clout or influence, is now feeling helpless to stop the growing tide of a culture/mental illness that, unquestionably, will ensure our demise.

Our "leaders" don't have the backbone, or they are too brainwashed with ideas of tolerance and inclusion, to say what needs to be said.

The longer we allow this to continue, the less chance we have to entirely reclaim our areas of this world that aren't held hostage by the scourge that is Islam.

But still, how to stop the insanity?

Well... I won't elaborate too much, but I guess you've heard what regular people are doing in Germany already. Let's say it is at least possible to show these "new people" that they are not very wellcome here.

[da_vinci]

LOL, yes, it's people like ME who give up the fight...probably one of the only ones who actually has been involved in any sort of fight against radicalism, as opposed to sitting on a computer my whole life, reading propagandised and demonstrably false articles, written by morons like Obstidan, who deny history, and try to pin everything down to conspiracy theory's and Zionist agendas . It's hilarious

YOUR problem, Stephano, is lack of any sort of thinking in general. You cannot even differentiate between legal migration of a symbiotic nature and global trading, which is the reason why countries like Germany have been able to build their economy's back up with such success, and the illegal, parasitic type which i have quite clearly stated i am against. Controlled migration, involving a screening process and limited numbers is great for Europe, it builds up the economies of all the European countries you wank over, and ensures co-operation and fair trading which help all of us in Europe.
Illegal immigration, tolerating religious fundamentalists and pathetic human rights laws which stop us dealing with the insidious elements of multiculturalism, ruin this country, and I am 100% against.

You and your retard friends here, have absolutely no understanding of any of the concepts you speak of.

It's not a right time for this bullshit. It may have been in the past, but not now. The situation is extreme so the solutions must be extreme too.
Obligations, rights, economy... yeah right.. Me, as a citizen of EU, want to see them either dead or going back to their own country. simple as that. I don't want any more of them here, we have more than enough already. It is WAR now, do you understand?

[Kwon_2]

they should....did you hear about that muslim terrorist attack we had in pyongyang? No cause we dont allow them in best korea

At least Kim Jong knows how to protect his borders!

[da_vinci]

I've quite clearly stated the elements of migration that i am 100% against. And i've clearly comdemned the action's of the EU too. I differentiate between killing islamic extremists though, which i am happy to do, and the killing or brutal treatment of women and children fleeing from the conflicts. I've stated that a lot more needs to be done to prevent this influx of illegal immigration. What are you personally doing about this "war" that we are facing though?  Hopefully more than the likes of Stephano and his mentally disabled brother, Obstidan.

I won't speak on that publicly, but I've had a small part in it already. I may have more if needed.
 That's the difference - you differentiate islamic extremists, and I do not. I see no big difference, because they are still Islam touting humans, females or males, kids will grow up too. The situation is getting out of control, it's about survival now. My solution would be (for now) - sink the boats if they cross the water border illegally, send back these who managed to put their foot on EU soil, oh and it would be great to bomb big regions over there just help them to reach "peace" (it won't, Islam is too fucked to up to begin with). Later on, yeah, we could act like civilised humans and decide how to help them control the situation in their own land. But the floodgates are broken, all we should care about now is how to stop the water so to speak.

[Stephano]

I've quite clearly stated the elements of migration that i am 100% against. And i've clearly comdemned the action's of the EU too. I differentiate between killing islamic extremists though, which i am happy to do, and the killing or brutal treatment of women and children fleeing from the conflicts. I've stated that a lot more needs to be done to prevent this influx of illegal immigration. What are you personally doing about this "war" that we are facing though?  Hopefully more than the likes of Stephano and his mentally disabled brother, Obstidan.

You're absolutely retarded if you think that those women deserve to be treated differently, and that those children will grow up to be "good Europeans."  This is why I call you a cuck.  Keep thinking that way, and you'll have mulatto Allah-worshipping grandchildren.
They all need to be removed, one way or another.  Men, women, and children alike. 

[da_vinci]

and i'm not so sure you would be willing to drop the bombs yourself if you seen the consequences of them,

I would. Idk why, but I start to get more and more insensitive as the time goes by. Maybe I just realized that life in general is fucked up at it's core anyway.

[MORTALCOIL]

I would. Idk why, but I start to get more and more insensitive as the time goes by. Maybe I just realized that life in general is fucked up at it's core anyway.

Typical nihilistic mindset of those who end up pushing totalitarian agendas. Never mind the starting point of their theories is about how to preserve our freedom. Louis-Ferdinand Céline would approve.

[SuperTed]

You're white knighting the people who would destroy European culture (what was once Christendom) and everything it stands for.

Western Europeans have rejected and destroyed their own culture. The migrants haven’t done anything to contribute to that. HTH.

Do you believe in a Europe for Europeans?  What do you think should be done?  Why are you white knighting these "women and children" who are coming to burn your house down?

He isn’t “white knighting” them. He’s just coming up with solutions that are realistic and practical. Your ideas seem to be based more on a fantasy - things that you wish would occur rather than what can and will occur.

I agree that Islam and our Christian cultures do no mix

Well, we don’t know that since Western Europe isn’t a Christian society anymore. It’s a secular, post-Christian society – much like what’s now happening in the US. Perhaps had the Christian culture remained intact, these problems wouldn’t be occurring in the first place because a true Christian society would be implementing the migrant rules that Slovakia recently have:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33986738

Absolutely.  What we're seeing is a hostile invasion, and it should be treated as such.  What we need is another man like Charles Martel, Godfrey of Bouillon, or Baldwin the Leper -- men whose swords ran red with the blood of our enemies -- but I'm afraid they don't make them like they used to, and our pathetic "leaders" are actually people like CaptainCuck, who would rather give up the fight, lie down, and surrender utterly.  (Muh economy and globalism.)

Great. What we need is men from a bygone era when society, economics, lifestyle and culture was totally different to what we have now. You’re right though, they don’t make them like they used to. Nowadays, the warriors are to be busy voicing their anger anonymously on the internet. What’s stopping you from replicating men like Martel and leading the battle?

[da_vinci]

Lets say it otherwise: every citizen of EU will be a great person if given a chance - will show these "guests" that they are no wellcome here. Be it discrimination or open racism. Idk about throwing stones, but it probably would be too a humanistic way to tell we are not happy to see you here.

[Stephano]

Western Europeans have rejected and destroyed their own culture. The migrants haven’t done anything to contribute to that. HTH.

White culture is tied to the white race.  If the white race is, due to miscegenation, destroyed, then that will be the final nail in the coffin.  As things stand, there is still hope.

He isn’t “white knighting” them. He’s just coming up with solutions that are realistic and practical. Your ideas seem to be based more on a fantasy - things that you wish would occur rather than what can and will occur.

What solution?  All he's doing is making excuses and exceptions.  Also, he's an admitted globalist who doesn't believe in a European Europe.

Great. What we need is men from a bygone era when society, economics, lifestyle and culture was totally different to what we have now. You’re right though, they don’t make them like they used to. Nowadays, the warriors are to be busy voicing their anger anonymously on the internet. What’s stopping you from replicating men like Martel and leading the battle?

This is no laughing matter.  What you're looking at may be the largest resettlement since the Barbarian Invasion period.  There will be a reaction -- in Germany and throughout Europe -- that might shock you.

[SuperTed]

White culture is tied to the white race.  If the white race is, due to miscegenation, destroyed, then that will be the final nail in the coffin.  As things stand, there is still hope.

But whose fault is that? The migrants? I don't blame them because anyone (including yourself) would want to migrate to Europe if you were in their position.
The EU and the political leaders of European nations are still ethnically Europeans and they are the ones making the laws.

What solution?  All he's doing is making excuses and exceptions.  Also, he's an admitted globalist who doesn't believe in a European Europe.

He's blaming the governments rather than the people. He's opposed to the wars which create the mess and is looking at the situation in a manner that is most reasonable. He clearly said he opposes mass migration so he’s not some hippy advocating an open door immigration policy. Your solutions aren't realistic and aren't happening.

This is no laughing matter.  What you're looking at may be the largest resettlement since the Barbarian Invasion period.  There will be a reaction -- in Germany and throughout Europe -- that might shock you.

Yes, there will be a massive reaction - on internet forums.

[Stephano]

But whose fault is that? The migrants? I don't blame them because anyone (including yourself) would want to migrate to Europe if you were in their position.
The EU and the political leaders of European nations are still ethnically Europeans and they are the ones making the laws.

He's blaming the governments rather than the people. He's opposed to the wars which create the mess and is looking at the situation in a manner that is most reasonable. He clearly said he opposes mass migration so he’s not some hippy advocating an open door immigration policy. Your solutions aren't realistic and aren't happening.

Yes, there will be a massive reaction - on internet forums.

That EU government "leadership" is total shit should go without saying.  But the migrants are, emphatically, not without blame.  Their countries are disgusting cesspools, their culture is repugnant and alien, and they'll turn Europe into a sort of hell, if we let them.  They need to be held responsible for the state their native countries are in.  These migrants are simply no good at civilization, and need to be removed from ours.  End of story.

"Blaming the governments" means voting for the far-right at the earliest possible opportunity.  The farthest right.  Are you?  I know I am.  (And not those ridiculous UKIP cucks, who point the finger at Polish immigration to the UK.  And please don't moan about "muh economy" and "globalism" -- a European Europe is infinitely more important.)

The ghost of Hitler is fading.  Youth unemployment is at record levels across Europe.  If you think that this reaction will be limited to the internet, I think that you are mistaken. 

[SuperTed]

That EU government "leadership" is total shit should go without saying.  But the migrants are, emphatically, not without blame.  Their countries are disgusting cesspools, their culture is repugnant and alien, and they'll turn Europe into a sort of hell, if we let them.  They need to be held responsible for the state their native countries are in.  These migrants are simply no good at civilization, and need to be removed from ours.  End of story.

I blame them to an extent. It depends. Iraqis for example aren’t really to blame since their nation was actually relatively safe until the US decided to bomb the shit out of it – something which CaptainFreedom highlighted.

"Blaming the governments" means voting for the far-right at the earliest possible opportunity.  The farthest right.  Are you?  I know I am.  (And not those ridiculous UKIP cucks, who point the finger at Polish immigration to the UK.  And please don't moan about "muh economy" and "globalism" -- a European Europe is infinitely more important.)

Political parties will sell out for financial gain. If they ever came to power, even the far right would end up liberalising their views once they realize the economic disaster that their beliefs will lead to.
Money > Everthing else.
That’s how the world works. Always has, always will unfortunately.

The ghost of Hitler is fading.  Youth unemployment is at record levels across Europe.  If you think that this reaction will be limited to the internet, I think that you are mistaken. 

We shall see about this. One thing’s for sure, if everyone is as vocal in real life against immigration as they are on the internet than something actually would be getting done about it.
Say what you like about the Muslims - they actually get stuff done. They stand up for their beliefs regardless of who is offended, they carry out their threats regardless of the personal consequences and they aren’t afraid of dying for the greater good. Can the indigenous Europeans say the same?

[Stephano]

I blame them to an extent. It depends. Iraqis for example aren’t really to blame since their nation was actually relatively safe until the US decided to bomb the shit out of it – something which CaptainFreedom highlighted.

Political parties will sell out for financial gain. If they ever came to power, even the far right would end up liberalising their views once they realize the economic disaster that their beliefs will lead to.
Money > Everthing else.
That’s how the world works. Always has, always will unfortunately.

We shall see about this. One thing’s for sure, if everyone is as vocal in real life against immigration as they are on the internet than something actually would be getting done about it.
Say what you like about the Muslims - they actually get stuff done. They stand up for their beliefs regardless of who is offended, they carry out their threats regardless of the personal consequences and they aren’t afraid of dying for the greater good. Can the indigenous Europeans say the same?

Right now it's Iraqis killing other Iraqis.  Syrians killing Syrians.  Libyans killing Libyans.  Muslims and Africans, everywhere, fighting other Muslims and Africans.  Can't keep blaming the USA forever.  These people are not a "Camp of Saints."  (Timely book, by the way.)  They're malignant, they're incompatible with our civilization, and they mean us harm -- openly or tacitly.  And this applies to all of them, not just the radicalized young men.

So you say "blame the politicians", and then concede that there's no way to change politics?  That no matter who is elected, the end-result will be the same.  That's not much of a solution, then, is it?  Da Vinci had it right:  In the near-term, it makes much more sense to make these migrants feel VERY unwelcome.  In the long-term, people will become sufficiently radicalized to take sterner action.  Deus Vult!

[SuperTed]

Right now it's Iraqis killing other Iraqis.  Syrians killing Syrians.  Libyans killing Libyans.  Muslims and Africans, everywhere, fighting other Muslims and Africans.  Can't keep blaming the USA forever.  These people are not a "Camp of Saints."  (Timely book, by the way.)  They're malignant, they're incompatible with our civilization, and they mean us harm -- openly or tacitly.  And this applies to all of them, not just the radicalized young men.

Do you know some of these people personally? I know a few in my gym. They aren’t all that bad tbh. Most are quite friendly and sincere. Yeah, you get the shitty ones too but you get shitty people everywhere.

So you say "blame the politicians", and then concede that there's no way to change politics?  That no matter who is elected, the end-result will be the same.  That's not much of a solution, then, is it?  Da Vinci had it right:  In the near-term, it makes much more sense to make these migrants feel VERY unwelcome.  In the long-term, people will become sufficiently radicalized to take sterner action.  Deus Vult!

I blame those who put money above principles. Unfortunately, that’s the vast majority of people on this planet and there isn’t much that can be done about it.

Men like da vinci are actually part of the biggest problem for Europeans. He doesn’t want to start a family or have any kids – and it’s the low birth rates created by his kind of mindset which is leading to the self suicide of Western Europe. Somebody has to replace an aging and dying population. The migrants are simply filling that void.
I think the best solution is to encourage Europeans to become more proud of their culture, identity and promote the concept of family – things which just don't seem to interest them anymore. If that gets done, all the other things will fall in place.

[Conker]

and the reason we have seen this massive increase of immigrants coming into europe recently is due to the overthrowing of the great colonel gaddafi, which has rendered Libya a mad max style anarchic free for all, and a human trafficking paradise. this is where the majority of immigrants are coming through to get to europe now.

another greatly successful democracy spreading military intervention that we are now bearing the fruits of. thanks obama   

[da_vinci]

Do you know some of these people personally? I know a few in my gym. They aren’t all that bad tbh. Most are quite friendly and sincere. Yeah, you get the shitty ones too but you get shitty people everywhere.

I doubt you will care whether they are friendly or not when they will become braver start doing what they know best - procreating and acting according to their culture/religion, just in your country.

[Fortress]

Well ... I won't elaborate too much, but I guess you've heard what regular people are doing in Germany already. Let's say it is at least possible to show these "new people" that they are not very welcome here.

I like your thinking. Thank you.