Author Topic: Crashed gear (Read 3693 times)

heenok · « **on:** August 24, 2015, 07:49:31 AM »

Hey guys,

Im having insane pip from a bad quad shot, what i injected was :

test e 300
mast e 250
NPP 100

for about 2ml worth, also added about 0.5ml of EO in the seringe

basicly my left knee is swollen and very painful, im basicly crippled and not feeling right.
I think the culprit is the masteron E, i looked at my vial today and noticed the shit actually crashed so im thinking the pain is due to it crystalising inside the muscle.

its dosed 250mg/ml so pretty high, not very stable. I heated up the vial with warm water and most of the crystals melted i think; i still see some very tiny stuff floating inside the vial tho...

Whats your tips to un-crash vials ? Will adding EO to my shots make the stuff less likely to be crystalise in my muscle ?

btw all the products are from noble labs so beware of their highly dosed stuff

Jizmo · « **Reply #1 on:** August 24, 2015, 01:30:48 PM »

warm until all crystals are gone, dilute with 50% oil of your choice (or EO)

maybe youre allergic to EO though, can cause the same shit

Depocyp · « **Reply #2 on:** August 24, 2015, 09:56:21 PM »

Add oil, bb and ba to warmed gear to dilute it to an acceptable concentration. Probably won't get an exact dose but can get close enough if you know the dose it crashed at

Jizmo · « **Reply #3 on:** August 25, 2015, 12:43:56 AM »

umm what?
just measure how much oil is left in the vial and calculate in how much oil you add and you know the concentration

if you have 7ml of mast 250 left then its 1.750mg in total. if you add 3ml oil then its still 1750mg total but in 10ml oil = 175mg/ml

4th grade maths...

also no need to add BA and BB, it just makes pip worse
adding just oil usually the stuff prevents from crashing.

heenok · « **Reply #4 on:** August 25, 2015, 03:43:13 AM »

Lol i dont have BA or whatever anyway just some random oil and EO

will heat my stuff before injecting, put some EO in the seringe and hope for the best lol

pestosterone · « **Reply #5 on:** August 25, 2015, 04:43:05 AM »

That gear is dosed rather high if u only injected 2mls and get those dosages expect the pain with that stuff.

Jizmo · « **Reply #6 on:** August 25, 2015, 06:53:37 AM »

adding EO in the SYRINGE most likely wont help. it doesnt even dissolve with the oil from the gear that way.
put it in the vial, heat it up, swirl, do that 2-3 times. THEN you have a chance of the stuff dispersing with the EO evenly.

in the syringe? not gonna work

heenok · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:18:31 PM »

Well i warmed the gear seemed fine, but there is still a very tiny layer of "dust" settled at the bottom of the vial. Also put some EO in the vial.
Does the stuff need to be warmed again?

ritch · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2015, 01:58:00 PM »

Quote from: Jizmo on August 25, 2015, 06:53:37 AM

adding EO in the SYRINGE most likely wont help. it doesnt even dissolve with the oil from the gear that way.
put it in the vial, heat it up, swirl, do that 2-3 times. THEN you have a chance of the stuff dispersing with the EO evenly.

in the syringe? not gonna work

I've added pure EO to painful gear and it worked!
Stuff had me crippled without it. Could not unbend my leg, was impossible to tie shows, put socks on, step in shower for 2 weeks. I even went to the clinic as I was shitting myself from fear of the unknown.

TestDummy · « **Reply #9 on:** August 27, 2015, 05:12:56 PM »

why would you inject that much gear in your quad? Just stick to the glute man. I did the same thing a few months ago with some cutstack and limped around for days

Jizmo · « **Reply #10 on:** August 27, 2015, 11:55:48 PM »

so ? if it gives heavy pip in the quad it gives heavy pip in the ass too

if you have to sit on your ass all day for ur job then quad is probably the better choice

but yeah, to me glute pip is the least painful, except for when ur sleeping

heenok · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2015, 04:20:40 AM »

The bad shot was less than 3ml. its not the volume of oil its the gear crystalising in my leg that caused the issue.
My next shot were painless, i heat the fuck out of the masteron and mix with eo.

Jizmo · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2015, 06:28:45 AM »

volume never causes any issues
but newbies are scared of injecting more than 1ml at once lmao

ive injected up to 6ml like everywhere
even into delts where people claim 2ml is "too much" lol what a bunch of shit

you could probably put 10ml in most muscles without any issues

if the gear is high concentration then 1ml feels worse than 5ml of low concentration gear.

heenok · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2015, 07:20:42 AM »

Well i wouldnt put 10ml in my delt tho lol
But yeah volume doesnt cause any issues most of the time

Jenetics · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2015, 05:11:33 AM »

Sorry if this is a bit of a rookie question, but what does EO stand for and where might I purchase it in the UK? Pretty sure I'm okay to ask this question?!

Jizmo · « **Reply #15 on:** August 30, 2015, 05:18:17 AM »

ethyl oleate
its just a solvent that you can use instead of oil / or just a mix. it flows much easier. toxic in higher dosages though. nothing for high dosers

Jenetics · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2015, 05:21:41 AM »

Quote from: Jizmo on August 30, 2015, 05:18:17 AM

ethyl oleate
its just a solvent that you can use instead of oil / or just a mix. it flows much easier. toxic in higher dosages though. nothing for high dosers

Thanks Jizmo. Found some already. Do you prefer to use EO or a sterile oil?

Jizmo · « **Reply #17 on:** August 30, 2015, 06:12:59 AM »

oil all the way
safflower has the lowest viscosity imo (and i dont get the hype with MCT oil, its not really thinner than any others)

i just add like 10-20% EO when the stuff is too thick and theres already 20% bb in

chokeslam · « **Reply #18 on:** August 30, 2015, 07:52:54 AM »

My rule is that I'll heat it up, but if it crashes again or needs more diluent then it goes into the trash bin.

I just chucked out some test prop/tren ace that crashed on me. Doesn't happen often so just write it off. A tennis ball sized abscess is a lot worse than a wasted vial of gear.

Jizmo · « **Reply #19 on:** August 30, 2015, 10:26:56 AM »

why trash good gear

just put in some BB and oil $:-\$

LurkerNoMore · « **Reply #20 on:** August 30, 2015, 11:03:09 AM »

Quote from: Jizmo on August 30, 2015, 10:26:56 AM

why trash good gear
just put in some BB and oil $:-\$

If it is crashing and causing crippling pain, I think we can rule out the part of that gear being "good".

Jizmo · « **Reply #21 on:** August 30, 2015, 12:48:57 PM »

at least you know its most likely accurately or even overdosed, unless someone completely skimped on BA/BB

for me that means good gear. who cares if it crashes. gear can always crash in the cold. just put some remotely high dosed vials in the fridge and youll see

gear is made from powder. the crashed crystals is basically what the powder looks like when in a solution. its just its original state.

chokeslam · « **Reply #22 on:** August 31, 2015, 10:29:37 PM »

Quote from: Jizmo on August 30, 2015, 10:26:56 AM

why trash good gear
just put in some BB and oil $:-\$

It's just one of those things I'd rather splurge on. Fruit with bruises, dull coloured fish, crystallized gear... all things I'd rather pass on. It's not as though gear is a massive expense thankfully.

Jizmo · « **Reply #23 on:** August 31, 2015, 11:15:37 PM »

what a waste
would never throw away food if you can still 1% of it
ill bite off the 1% and throw away the rest lol
same with gear or anything else

chokeslam · « **Reply #24 on:** September 01, 2015, 07:28:44 AM »

Quote from: Jizmo on August 31, 2015, 11:15:37 PM

what a waste
would never throw away food if you can still 1% of it
ill bite off the 1% and throw away the rest lol
same with gear or anything else

I've got an iron gut and could probably eat week old roadkill without it causing so much as a fart. But I get inflammation even with the best gear, which is probably why I'm so quick to toss it.

Never had anything outside of a few sterile abscesses, but waiting for a week and monitoring a big swollen lump is enough to put the scare in me.