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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #100 on: August 27, 2015, 09:28:26 AM »
Narrower than Heath



Similar build to Kovacs, huh?
No way. He's way superior.
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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #101 on: August 27, 2015, 09:31:04 AM »
Even O'Hearn would have issues outlifting this chemical beast.

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #102 on: August 27, 2015, 10:06:42 AM »
Similar build to Kovacs, huh?
No way. He's way superior.

There was a time when Kovacs looked pretty good.

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #103 on: August 27, 2015, 10:40:05 AM »
Can barely move and is almost passed out on the floor after a set of bench press.

Dead and dead soon.

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #104 on: August 27, 2015, 12:49:59 PM »
Dead by 35. He'll be like that WSM Johnny Perry from ten years or so. Dude was massive and dropped dead at 27.

Perry 350lbs I buy.  Aste 350lbs I Aint buyin'.

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #105 on: August 27, 2015, 01:49:34 PM »
There was a time when Kovacs looked pretty good.

Exactly.  People seem to forget how good a prime Kovacs was.  As if 6'2 and 300 in amazing condition is something to scoff at.  But then again, this is Getbig.  ;D

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #106 on: August 27, 2015, 02:40:39 PM »
Your math stinks. It's 440.

LOL ... and, *cringe* ... shit! 

Rob, you are of course correct.  I was thinking two-hundred TWENTY kilos for some reason.  Believe it or not, I'm perfectly cognizant of the fact that a kilogram is 2.2 lbs. and, yes, per simple math, 200*2.2 = 440.

As others have said, however, even 440x15 -- or 16, if you're willing to count the last rep -- in good form, no less, is pretty damned impressive.  It really doesn't matter if the lifter is 161.5 kg and juiced to the gills; plenty of super-strong, gassed-up guys (e.g., George whats'-his-name, the 300ish pounder who can close-grip 330 for 30, deadlift over 800 for 8, etc.) probably can't duplicate the Big Frog's lifts, so those lifts remain pretty mind-boggling to me.

In any case, I notice you tend to denigrate really huge bodybuilder's training poundages.  You once told me how you "marveled" at how Nasser El Sonbaty struggled to incline 315 for a few reps.  (Aside:  yes, I have used before, albeit somewhat conservatively opposite Nasser's doses, and within a few months, I had no trouble equaling or eclipsing his incline pressing strength based on what you noted.  Of course, at the same time, he would've made he look like a complete jerk-off onstage.)  On the other hand, when a big bodybuilder moves decent weights, like "Big Ramy" doing an easy eight reps with a 405 flat bench, you sneer and say he couldn't do "two sets of 225x8 'without the drugs'."

While I've little doubt you've enough experience with these juiced-up motherfuckers to support this conclusion, the very proclamation, particularly given the frequency with which you make it, does strike me as a bit ... ehhh ... I dunno.  Bitter, maybe?  There were, after all, a LOT of bodybuilders who were decently strong even before they gassed or used much on the way of gas.  Of the semi-modern sort, Mike Mentzer and Boyer Coe come immediately to mind.

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #107 on: August 27, 2015, 02:49:29 PM »


Lol awkward as shit with a bunch of non gym goers clapping for you

Watch after the first set they show him almost passing out due to his lack of sugar so they give him a squeezey packet of glucose. Boy must be on lots of slin

Yikes.

Of course, at the same time, he would've made he look like a complete jerk-off onstage.)

I had to read that twice.  It's funny when typos change the context completely.  ;D  I'm reminded of King Kamali's 2006 post when he said that Bob Kennedy "resigned" him when he meant to say he re-signed him.

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #108 on: August 27, 2015, 06:18:17 PM »
LOL ... and, *cringe* ... shit! 

Rob, you are of course correct.  I was thinking two-hundred TWENTY kilos for some reason.  Believe it or not, I'm perfectly cognizant of the fact that a kilogram is 2.2 lbs. and, yes, per simple math, 200*2.2 = 440.

As others have said, however, even 440x15 -- or 16, if you're willing to count the last rep -- in good form, no less, is pretty damned impressive.  It really doesn't matter if the lifter is 161.5 kg and juiced to the gills; plenty of super-strong, gassed-up guys (e.g., George whats'-his-name, the 300ish pounder who can close-grip 330 for 30, deadlift over 800 for 8, etc.) probably can't duplicate the Big Frog's lifts, so those lifts remain pretty mind-boggling to me.

In any case, I notice you tend to denigrate really huge bodybuilder's training poundages.  You once told me how you "marveled" at how Nasser El Sonbaty struggled to incline 315 for a few reps.  (Aside:  yes, I have used before, albeit somewhat conservatively opposite Nasser's doses, and within a few months, I had no trouble equaling or eclipsing his incline pressing strength based on what you noted.  Of course, at the same time, he would've made he look like a complete jerk-off onstage.)  On the other hand, when a big bodybuilder moves decent weights, like "Big Ramy" doing an easy eight reps with a 405 flat bench, you sneer and say he couldn't do "two sets of 225x8 'without the drugs'."

While I've little doubt you've enough experience with these juiced-up motherfuckers to support this conclusion, the very proclamation, particularly given the frequency with which you make it, does strike me as a bit ... ehhh ... I dunno.  Bitter, maybe?  There were, after all, a LOT of bodybuilders who were decently strong even before they gassed or used much on the way of gas.  Of the semi-modern sort, Mike Mentzer and Boyer Coe come immediately to mind.


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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #109 on: August 27, 2015, 06:25:45 PM »
I would say comparing Morgan Aste and Greg Kovacs is valid.

Greg was 6'2.  He was probably around 385-lb in this photo with Jay Cutler, which was taken around 1998, I think:

jeez
dwarfing Jay there
is kovacs still alive?

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #110 on: August 27, 2015, 07:43:20 PM »
jeez
dwarfing Jay there
is kovacs still alive?

Greg passed away due to heart failure on November 22nd, 2013.  He was 44 years old.  He is sorely missed by his two sisters, as well as his girlfriend at the time, who was with him the day that he passed away.

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #111 on: August 27, 2015, 07:56:24 PM »
He is sweating a lot, 30 minutes later, after doing a set of 15.  Are those just moles on his head?

6'4 and 250 would be huge.  356 is just beyond massive.  I fear for Aste's health though.

Here is the link to the enlarged version of the photo attached below:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=578722.0;attach=643529;image

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #112 on: August 27, 2015, 08:27:40 PM »
Greg passed away due to heart failure on November 22nd, 2013.  He was 44 years old.  He is sorely missed by his two sisters, as well as his girlfriend at the time, who was with him the day that he passed away.

did u know greg personally adam?

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #113 on: August 27, 2015, 08:50:37 PM »
did u know greg personally adam?

I know his sister Marta, which is why I felt his loss a bit more than the average bodybuilding fan.  To this day, she is still saddened about it as if Greg's passing was yesterday.  Greg's other sister Kris Finbow is still saddened by it also.

We as fans or followers of bodybuilding may not think much about a young bodybuilder's death aside from viewing it as a cursory tale about the dangers of steroid abuse, but there are usually families and close friends in the wake who take the losses horribly.  Greg, by all accounts, was a pretty nice guy.

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #114 on: August 28, 2015, 12:06:33 PM »
Taller and bigger than Lou Ferrigno ?
Wants to reach 370lbs. Even Charles Glass is taking a picture.


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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #115 on: August 28, 2015, 12:16:28 PM »
Taller and bigger than Lou Ferrigno ?
Wants to reach 370lbs. Even Charles Glass is taking a picture.




Gotta love how all these videos have to spend at least a few minutes showing these mutants taking some shitty supplement that you know they don't touch when the cameras are off. :D

Dude is a legit colossus though. I doubt there is a single person who has walked passed him without stopping and staring.

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #116 on: August 28, 2015, 12:47:28 PM »
Taller and bigger than Lou Ferrigno ?
Wants to reach 370lbs. Even Charles Glass is taking a picture.




In the other video, someone was taking a picture of him as well.  Even by bodybuilding standards, he is huge.  A bodybuilder who is 5'6 and 165-lb in good condition would be pretty thick in person.  Imagine someone almost a foot taller than that and almost 200-lb heavier.

Gotta love how all these videos have to spend at least a few minutes showing these mutants taking some shitty supplement that you know they don't touch when the cameras are off. :D

Dude is a legit colossus though. I doubt there is a single person who has walked passed him without stopping and staring.

Gunter Schlierkamp was 6'1.5" and 345-lb at his heaviest.  Maybe the push for size was part of the reason why Gunter retired at 36.

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #117 on: August 28, 2015, 12:48:31 PM »
huge yea, anyone else not impressed when he flexed the right bicep and nothing happened

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #118 on: August 28, 2015, 01:03:57 PM »
would love to do his make-up for the funeral

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #119 on: August 28, 2015, 03:52:46 PM »
Exactly.  People seem to forget how good a prime Kovacs was.  As if 6'2 and 300 in amazing condition is something to scoff at.  But then again, this is Getbig.  ;D

I liked Greg. Hung with him here and there in the mid-'90s. But he basically always looked like shit, from a bodybuilding perspective. Even in the pic you provide as evidence to the contrary.

If you can't see the myriad of physique flaws, you're not too "in the loop" of what constitutes a good competitive build.




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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #120 on: August 28, 2015, 03:54:38 PM »
LOL ... and, *cringe* ... shit! 

Rob, you are of course correct.  I was thinking two-hundred TWENTY kilos for some reason.  Believe it or not, I'm perfectly cognizant of the fact that a kilogram is 2.2 lbs. and, yes, per simple math, 200*2.2 = 440.

As others have said, however, even 440x15 -- or 16, if you're willing to count the last rep -- in good form, no less, is pretty damned impressive.  It really doesn't matter if the lifter is 161.5 kg and juiced to the gills; plenty of super-strong, gassed-up guys (e.g., George whats'-his-name, the 300ish pounder who can close-grip 330 for 30, deadlift over 800 for 8, etc.) probably can't duplicate the Big Frog's lifts, so those lifts remain pretty mind-boggling to me.

In any case, I notice you tend to denigrate really huge bodybuilder's training poundages.  You once told me how you "marveled" at how Nasser El Sonbaty struggled to incline 315 for a few reps.  (Aside:  yes, I have used before, albeit somewhat conservatively opposite Nasser's doses, and within a few months, I had no trouble equaling or eclipsing his incline pressing strength based on what you noted.  Of course, at the same time, he would've made he look like a complete jerk-off onstage.)  On the other hand, when a big bodybuilder moves decent weights, like "Big Ramy" doing an easy eight reps with a 405 flat bench, you sneer and say he couldn't do "two sets of 225x8 'without the drugs'."

While I've little doubt you've enough experience with these juiced-up motherfuckers to support this conclusion, the very proclamation, particularly given the frequency with which you make it, does strike me as a bit ... ehhh ... I dunno.  Bitter, maybe?  There were, after all, a LOT of bodybuilders who were decently strong even before they gassed or used much on the way of gas.  Of the semi-modern sort, Mike Mentzer and Boyer Coe come immediately to mind.


Uh, okay. Thanks for chiming in.  ???



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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #121 on: August 28, 2015, 04:45:09 PM »
LOL ... and, *cringe* ... shit!  

Rob, you are of course correct.  I was thinking two-hundred TWENTY kilos for some reason.  Believe it or not, I'm perfectly cognizant of the fact that a kilogram is 2.2 lbs. and, yes, per simple math, 200*2.2 = 440.

As others have said, however, even 440x15 -- or 16, if you're willing to count the last rep -- in good form, no less, is pretty damned impressive.  It really doesn't matter if the lifter is 161.5 kg and juiced to the gills; plenty of super-strong, gassed-up guys (e.g., George whats'-his-name, the 300ish pounder who can close-grip 330 for 30, deadlift over 800 for 8, etc.) probably can't duplicate the Big Frog's lifts, so those lifts remain pretty mind-boggling to me.

In any case, I notice you tend to denigrate really huge bodybuilder's training poundages.  You once told me how you "marveled" at how Nasser El Sonbaty struggled to incline 315 for a few reps.  (Aside:  yes, I have used before, albeit somewhat conservatively opposite Nasser's doses, and within a few months, I had no trouble equaling or eclipsing his incline pressing strength based on what you noted.  Of course, at the same time, he would've made he look like a complete jerk-off onstage.)  On the other hand, when a big bodybuilder moves decent weights, like "Big Ramy" doing an easy eight reps with a 405 flat bench, you sneer and say he couldn't do "two sets of 225x8 'without the drugs'."

While I've little doubt you've enough experience with these juiced-up motherfuckers to support this conclusion, the very proclamation, particularly given the frequency with which you make it, does strike me as a bit ... ehhh ... I dunno.  Bitter, maybe?  There were, after all, a LOT of bodybuilders who were decently strong even before they gassed or used much on the way of gas.  Of the semi-modern sort, Mike Mentzer and Boyer Coe come immediately to mind.


Sorry, there's no reversing your math comment.  As Fortress stated, it stunk.  ;D

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Re: Morgan Aste : 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #122 on: August 28, 2015, 04:59:40 PM »
I liked Greg. Hung with him here and there in the mid-'90s. But he basically always looked like shit, from a bodybuilding perspective. Even in the pic you provide as evidence to the contrary.

If you can't see the myriad of physique flaws, you're not too "in the loop" of what constitutes a good competitive build.

I know what you're saying, but I don't think a competitive build necessarily means he had to be as good as Mr. Olympia.  I think had Greg not pushed his physique weight-wise, he could have been a viable pro.  Viable, meaning good enough to qualify for the Olympia.  In fact, Greg stated in one of his RXMuscle columns that he was invited to the 1996 Mr. Olympia contest by Joe Weider himself, based on his 1996 CBBF win.  I think it's safe to say that his championship form in 1996 was not only good enough to turn pro, but good enough to place top three in some of the pro shows that year, and hence qualify for the Mr. Olympia - back when the top three from the Grand Prix shows and the other smaller shows would qualify tor the O.

Unfortunately for Greg, he pushed his weight to the upper limit in the off-season, maxing out at a peak weight of 416-lb at around 20-25% body fat, which is not fat by any means - it's pretty average.  A lot of people calling themselves 12% body fat are actually closer to 22%.  Getting so heavy ruined both Greg's competitive viability and his cardiovascular system.  It may well have cut his life in half.  Keep in mind that in Art Atwood's case, Art's father passed away six months after Art did, at the age of 70.

Is it worth it?  I seem to doubt it.  I'm happy that YouTube exists now, allowing lifters to become stars without taking on the risks associated with competing.  I'm also happy the Physique division exists for this reason as well, even if it was simply a way for the NPC to expand and collect more competitor fees.

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #123 on: August 28, 2015, 09:40:02 PM »
Is Greg in a hospital bed in the photo below?

Greg underwent mitral valve surgery two weeks prior to his death.  According to Dave Palumbo, Greg didn't want to see a doctor and was using different things, such as cleanses recommended by fellow gym users.  He finally went to the doctor and was cleared for heart surgery, but died two weeks later of heart failure.

Here is a larger version of the photo, posted by his girlfriend at the time of his death, Catherine Dupuis:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=578722.0;attach=644355;image

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Re: Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded
« Reply #124 on: August 28, 2015, 10:14:48 PM »
Is Greg in a hospital bed in the photo below?

Greg underwent mitral valve surgery two weeks prior to his death.  According to Dave Palumbo, Greg didn't want to see a doctor and was using different things, such as cleanses recommended by fellow gym users.  He finally went to the doctor and was cleared for heart surgery, but died two weeks later of heart failure.

Here is a larger version of the photo, posted by his girlfriend at the time of his death, Catherine Dupuis:

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=578722.0;attach=644355;image
He killed himself, zero sympathy, selfish individual!
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