I don't think Layne is as arrogant as you guys make him out to be. I would be defensive too if I was ripped on as much as he is on some of the boards.
Although his comment to Bob Chick was kind of arrogant (the one which started it all). Bob posted an article which had no scientific validity and somebody else posted a follow up article which did have scientific validity and Layne said: "a much more sound article for those that care about science and logic."
To which Bob replied with:
"Layne, Layne, layne......
You have eyes, but you do not see....
You would be wise to adopt this method of cardio, as you don't have any muscle to spare, brother.....
keep following your "science and logic", Spock...you'll end up looking like you just got released from Auschwitz by the time you get on stage."
Not particularly mature for a 38 year old. I like Bob because he's a principled guy and highly confident, but if he was truly confident in what he believed in, he probably wouldn't have needed to diss Layne like that. Granted, Layne's comment was condescending and I can see why Bob got on the defensive. Plus, Bob was posting what obviously worked for him, so sometimes strict scientific reasoning is irrelevant when you're seeing results, especially for something as difficult to study scientifically as physique transformation.
I did a search on google and I dug up the post which resulted in all the flames Layne has received since:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=233400Of course, Bob being a pro as well as a BB.com sponsored bodybuilder, everyone is on his jock on that site and Layne was ripped to shreds. It soon spread to other boards. But to be completely fair, Layne isn't nearly as bad as you guys make him out to be. Get to know him and you will see that. He is an inspiration to us natural scrawny geeks (and there are more of them on this board who will be willing to admit it).
Although personally I think he is juiced. I know a lot of juicers who aren't his size. Maybe it's just my town, but he would easily be one of the most muscled guys around anywhere in the general public.
http://www.bodybuildingpro.com/laynenorton.html