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I should turn over my protection and rely on whom to protect me? Oh, the local police. We've seen just how ethical and just they are  ???
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I should turn over my protection and rely on whom to protect me? Oh, the local police. We've seen just how ethical and just they are  ???

Yes the Goverment will protect you  :-X

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Like Ice T said. I'll turn over my guns when the Government turns over theirs.

Lol, that would require trust, though, and nobody trustworthy would ask people to give up their guns.  But good one to make a point.

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I've read multiple sites and haven't saw that.  ???

they may be wrong, but I am only going by what I read.

http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/footage-from-virginia-shooters-perspective-emerges/
The gunman, who is alleged to have now killed himself, has been identified as 41-year-old Vester Lee Flanagan II. Reports say he was a former employee of the station, and went as Bryce Williams on air. He is reported to have been the ex-boyfriend of one of the journalists.[/b]

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/08/26/3695487/tv-journalist-shooter-id/
Sources have also said the shooter is an ex-boyfriend of one of the victims, presumably Parker.
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Okay , we'll agree with you for the sake of argument. What is the solution? confiscation is gun violence , because you will need men with guns to take those guns from law abiding citizens who won't be bullied into giving them to their masters. Gun buy backs are a complete and utter failure , new gun laws wouldn't have prevented this , an AWB would do nothing to prevent this. You have no solutions , you just like to sit on your moral high horse thinking you're above everyone else. Enjoy your rush of righteous indignation because that solves nothing over here.


you make it a law that gun ownership is illegal, it's as simple as that. you have laws in the US already, possession of drugs is illegal. you manage to police that right?

the fact that there is just such a ridiculous amount of guns in circulation would probably mean it would have to be phased in, take away the most unnecessary guns first, then the rest in stages.

it's nothing to do with me being on any high horse, it's just so fkin obvious what the problem is and what the solution is. but i suppose it will probably take something like sandy hook x 10 before the people may decide to wake up.

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WDBJ7 general manager Jeff Marks described Flanagan as “an unhappy man”, prone to anger and outbursts, who had a troubled history with the station. He left the station in 2013 and later accused its staff of racism.

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Maybe he accused the whole staff of racism just because they wouldn't listen to his tirades about hebrews being black etc

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you make it a law that gun ownership is illegal, it's as simple as that. you have laws in the US already, possession of drugs is illegal. you manage to police that right?

the fact that there is just such a ridiculous amount of guns in circulation would probably mean it would have to be phased in, take away the most unnecessary guns first, then the rest in stages.

it's nothing to do with me being on any high horse, it's just so fkin obvious what the problem is and what the solution is. but i suppose it will probably take something like sandy hook x 10 before the people may decide to wake up.

No.  You are trying to hold good people responsible for the actions of bad people, to the point you'd ask the good people to potentially jeopardize their own lives.  It is a big NO.

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you make it a law that gun ownership is illegal, it's as simple as that. you have laws in the US already, possession of drugs is illegal. you manage to police that right?


No... you don't.

Do you realize how many people use illegal drugs on a DAILY if not at least WEEKLY basis.

The number is STAGGERING.

I guarantee you that if you walk down the street anywhere in the US, if you walk by 20 people, you are walking by 3 illegal drug users.

I also guarantee you that the number of Guns and gun owners is going to break the non-gun owners wallets the second you lock them in prison.

We can't pay for housing the illegal drug users we do catch, much less those we don't. Tack on another 10 percent of America (a conservative estimate of people who own guns... Most believe it's around 30%) and you are trying to add another 30 million people to the prison population?

Who the hell is going to pay for THAT?

In the US... Guns are as American as Apple Pie and that's not going to change.

If you don't like the guns, then don't live here... People should feel free to move to Australia or anywhere else they choose... Perhaps Switzerland.

Oh wait... Switzerland is the 3rd most armed populace per capita on the planet after the US and Yemen.

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In gun buy backs they have Amnesty , ANYONE can turn in a gun without legal consequences for a $100 gift card , because criminals are going to turn in a $500 gun for a $100 gift card lol You're not interested in the root of the problem , you're to busy getting off on pointing the finger.

Like Ice T said. I'll turn over my guns when the Government turns over theirs.


but what is the consequence in these buy back if people don't comply? none i'm guessing. i'm talking about giving minimum 5 year jail sentence to anyone caught with a firearm once the amnesty is up.

the root of the problem is the number of guns in circulation and the ease in which anyone can acquire, until that is admitted no progress will happen.

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they may be wrong, but I am only going by what I read.

http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/footage-from-virginia-shooters-perspective-emerges/
The gunman, who is alleged to have now killed himself, has been identified as 41-year-old Vester Lee Flanagan II. Reports say he was a former employee of the station, and went as Bryce Williams on air. He is reported to have been the ex-boyfriend of one of the journalists.[/b]

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/08/26/3695487/tv-journalist-shooter-id/
Sources have also said the shooter is an ex-boyfriend of one of the victims, presumably Parker.

Don't think she'd ever be together with someone like that , sounds unbelievable

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you make it a law that gun ownership is illegal, it's as simple as that. you have laws in the US already, possession of drugs is illegal. you manage to police that right?

the fact that there is just such a ridiculous amount of guns in circulation would probably mean it would have to be phased in, take away the most unnecessary guns first, then the rest in stages.

it's nothing to do with me being on any high horse, it's just so fkin obvious what the problem is and what the solution is. but i suppose it will probably take something like sandy hook x 10 before the people may decide to wake up.

LMAO what a gross oversimplification.  ::) Again , this isn't Australia , Americans are NOT going to just turn them over. NOT going to happen. Some will , most won't. Then what? 300 Million legally owned personal firearms in circulation. Then you have to have men with guns to confiscate guns and then gun violence really , really hits an all time high.

You don't have the first clue on the reality of the gun situation in the United States , you're being told what to think by sensational news articles , you're not even from this country and you think you have the solution. The reality is most of the gun laws we have on the books already have been explained to us that these would reduce gun violence and guess how that turned out.

The reality of the situation is...................You CAN NOT stop people from killing other people with guns in the United States. That's the reality of the situation and if you take guns from people then you prevent them from protecting themselves with them. This will happen again , until Americans stop being violent and that's not happening anytime soon.

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they may be wrong, but I am only going by what I read.

http://www.unilad.co.uk/video/footage-from-virginia-shooters-perspective-emerges/
The gunman, who is alleged to have now killed himself, has been identified as 41-year-old Vester Lee Flanagan II. Reports say he was a former employee of the station, and went as Bryce Williams on air. He is reported to have been the ex-boyfriend of one of the journalists.[/b]

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/08/26/3695487/tv-journalist-shooter-id/
Sources have also said the shooter is an ex-boyfriend of one of the victims, presumably Parker.

It doesn't say the lady he shot was one of the Journalists that he was supposedly dating. It says she was with her new beau for 9 months. I've read multiple sites , CNN , The Guardian , and NYDN  and none of them say they were romantically involved.

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Most black communities are in states that have oppressive gun laws already. All prohibition does is create a black market. The blacks in the hood aren't buying their guns legally. So when you punish the law abiding citizens , you make zero inroads to solving the problem of gun violence in lawless people who get their guns illegally


how many of those being bought by criminals were once owned legally? you cut the number of legal guns, you will cut the supply of illegal guns.

in the UK it really is not so easy for criminals to get their hands on guns simply because there just aren't so many around. Anyways i can see i'm on a hiding to nothing here. i think the 'craziness' is kind of ingrained at this stage, and the obvious is just being dismissed out of hand. one day the penny will drop im sure.

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Conker, simple q for you:

How do you justify asking good people to potentially risk their lives over acts they have no control over?  As a matter of fact, you are telling them (not asking) by way of using their own freedom as the bargaining chip.  How do you justify that?

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how many of those being bought by criminals were once owned legally? you cut the number of legal guns, you will cut the supply of illegal guns.

in the UK it really is not so easy for criminals to get their hands on guns simply because there just aren't so many around. Anyways i can see i'm on a hiding to nothing here. i think the 'craziness' is kind of engrained at this stage, and the obvious is just being dismissed out of hand. one day the penny will drop im sure.

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how many of those being bought by criminals were once owned legally? you cut the number of legal guns, you will cut the supply of illegal guns.

Technically all were " legally owned " most were stolen. Some were bought via straw purchases , where a legal gun owner buys the gun and gives it or sells it to someone who can't own them legally , straw purchases are illegal. There are 300 million legally owned guns already , NOT counting the illegal ones. Enough to keep the industry going for a long time. Again but the number of legal guns , how? the only way is confiscation and then what your saying is you wants men with guns to commit gun violence on your behalf. That's not a solution to ending gun violence.

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in the UK it really is not so easy for criminals to get their hands on guns simply because there just aren't so many around. Anyways i can see i'm on a hiding to nothing here. i think the 'craziness' is kind of engrained at this stage, and the obvious is just being dismissed out of hand. one day the penny will drop im sure.

UK isn't the USA. We already have to many illegal guns circulating and punishing legal gun owners doesn't solve the problem. And I bet dollars to donuts this crackpot bought his legally.

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Kent Brockman disapproves!


But please stop calling them "journalists." Dan rather was a journalist. Hunter Thompson was a journist.

This is likely a false flag anyway

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The Associated Press is reporting that the suspect in the shooting is dead, citing an unnamed official. The Guardian cannot independently confirm this. The Virginia police press conference is expected shortly.

Good fucking riddance

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Conker, simple q for you:

How do you justify asking good people to potentially risk their lives over acts they have no control over?  As a matter of fact, you are telling them (not asking) by way of using their own freedom as the bargaining chip.  How do you justify that?


i don't think asking people to give up guns is risking their lives. i'm sure i have seen that statistically gun owners are generally more at risk than non gun owners anyways. but that aside, i'm certain your society as a whole would be a lot better off if you had similar gun laws to western europe.

in some of your states i'm sure gambling and drinking are still prohibited, all societies have laws and prohibitions. i don't see prohibiting something for the general good of society an an attack on freedom tbh.

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In good truth... you can't see anyone getting popped on camera. Can be a hoax.

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I'm confused.  First the news said there's a manhunt but then they say he turned the gun on himself right after killing the two people.  Which was it?  Did they just ignore the dead black guy laying there?

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Will Harley Breite be defending him?