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Front Squat
« on: August 28, 2015, 08:04:02 AM »
How many of you guys use the smith machine for these? The video below shows a young guy using great form for a heavy weight. Saw another video Of Jay Cutler using a smith machine. I like the smith machine for front squats in the Gym. i feel my Quads more.

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2015, 08:07:16 AM »
I've tried so hard to get on with front squats because of how good they feel on my quads, but have never managed. If I sit the bar behind my front delts it presses on my Adams apple and makes me heave mid-set. If I have the bar the other side of my delt it pulls me forward too much.

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2015, 08:10:03 AM »
It's definitely different.

Probably doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of it all though.

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2015, 08:12:24 AM »
I've tried so hard to get on with front squats because of how good they feel on my quads, but have never managed. If I sit the bar behind my front delts it presses on my Adams apple and makes me heave mid-set. If I have the bar the other side of my delt it pulls me forward too much.
Try one of these
https://www.gymratz.co.uk/sting-ray

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2015, 08:13:49 AM »
Try one of these
https://www.gymratz.co.uk/sting-ray

Never seen one of those before. Anyone ever tried one?

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2015, 08:14:45 AM »
I really like safety bar squats
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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2015, 08:15:43 AM »
It's definitely different.

Probably doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of it all though.
i find when i go heavier the smith machine is good. Really hits my middle/lower quads. You are no doubt right though, still i feel better and more in control.

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2015, 08:19:01 AM »
I really like safety bar squats
Never used it and have never seen it used here.. good tip i will look into it. I think it would be great in the Gym here.

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2015, 08:22:36 AM »
I've tried so hard to get on with front squats because of how good they feel on my quads, but have never managed. If I sit the bar behind my front delts it presses on my Adams apple and makes me heave mid-set. If I have the bar the other side of my delt it pulls me forward too much.

Smith machines vary slightly mfgr to mfgr.  Some are easier than others to do fronts in.

Never seen one of those before. Anyone ever tried one?

Def. not a one size fits all kind of apparatus.



I really like safety bar squats
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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2015, 08:28:36 AM »
Love this machine.
Perfect multi-tasker.



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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2015, 08:31:44 AM »
Love this machine.
Perfect multi-tasker.




wish we had it.

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2015, 08:34:08 AM »
This piece of equipment was developed by Uncle Joon, or Louie Simmons, I can remember who came up with it first.

But it helps with front squats

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2015, 08:42:51 AM »
This piece of equipment was developed by Uncle Joon, or Louie Simmons, I can remember who came up with it first.

But it helps with front squats


I think it was Panthro.


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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2015, 08:58:16 AM »
how about you guys stop crying and figure out how to do the movement correctly?
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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2015, 09:15:47 AM »
I really like safety bar squats

I thought that these would be the solution to my lower back squatting woes, so I paid $350 for a Westside safety squat bar. It turns out that it takes a regular back squat and rotates the weight further out over your toes, creating MORE shear force on your lower back. Worse.

With my dodgy shoulder holding front squats stable is a problem. Finally settled on Landmine Squats, which help me to maintain a good squat pattern and keep the weight centered and over my heels. Kinda homo looking, tho.

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2015, 09:20:08 AM »
Front squats are king for quads. Back squats suck when compared. It's very easy to keep your back straight. If you don't, the bar will crush your delts.

But they still hurt my left side so seldom do them. And going ATG just occurs normally for some reason when doing them.

Gonna give them a try again next monday but not on the smith machine. Tried it before, did not find the movement to be natural feeling at all. But works for some.

Nothing like front squatting some other dude's max back squat, lol...
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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2015, 09:31:52 AM »
Front squats are king for quads. Back squats suck when compared. It's very easy to keep your back straight. If you don't, the bar will crush your delts.

But they still hurt my left side so seldom do them. And going ATG just occurs normally for some reason when doing them.

Gonna give them a try again next monday but not on the smith machine. Tried it before, did not find the movement to be natural feeling at all. But works for some.

Nothing like front squatting some other dude's max back squat, lol...
Great exercise and i find the clean grip better just resting the bar on my finger tips... the other method i find unstable but is ok in the smith machine. crossing your arms elbows high. Love it or hate it a great Quad exercise.

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« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2015, 09:33:43 AM »
Great exercise and i find the clean grip better just resting the bar on my finger tips... the other method i find unstable but is ok in the smith machine. crossing your arms elbows high. Love it or hate it a great Quad exercise.

It's how I do them. Just so easy to keep straight back this way...
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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2015, 09:36:55 AM »
I thought that these would be the solution to my lower back squatting woes, so I paid $350 for a Westside safety squat bar. It turns out that it takes a regular back squat and rotates the weight further out over your toes, creating MORE shear force on your lower back. Worse.

With my dodgy shoulder holding front squats stable is a problem. Finally settled on Landmine Squats, which help me to maintain a good squat pattern and keep the weight centered and over my heels. Kinda homo looking, tho.
  ??? Maybe you're using it backward?
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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2015, 09:42:30 AM »
It's how I do them. Just so easy to keep straight back this way...
Great if it works for you but i find it awkward. I find when i squat my elbows drop too much if you know what i mean...clean position i can bring my elbows up more natural. End of the Day i get much better results from it than back squats.

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« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2015, 09:44:37 AM »
Great if it works for you but i find it awkward. I find when i squat my elbows drop too much if you know what i mean...clean position i can bring my elbows up more natural. End of the Day i get much better results from it than back squats.

My left shoulder sure does... Brutal if you don't keep them up. The lower I go, the more I focus on keeping my elbows up.
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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2015, 09:49:45 AM »
My left shoulder sure does... Brutal if you don't keep them up. The lower I go, the more I focus on keeping my elbows up.
Do you use lifting shoes or a heel raise?

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2015, 09:57:17 AM »
Do you use lifting shoes or a heel raise?

Nah.
But I have merrell flat foot barefoot runner shoes. NO, not the idiotic one's with the seperate toe's, lol...

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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2015, 09:58:05 AM »
I thought that these would be the solution to my lower back squatting woes, so I paid $350 for a Westside safety squat bar. It turns out that it takes a regular back squat and rotates the weight further out over your toes, creating MORE shear force on your lower back. Worse.

With my dodgy shoulder holding front squats stable is a problem. Finally settled on Landmine Squats, which help me to maintain a good squat pattern and keep the weight centered and over my heels. Kinda homo looking, tho.


You may have to hold on to the rack; sit way back as you go down. That should throw more pressure onto the hamstrings


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Re: Front Squat
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2015, 10:10:57 AM »
Can't get away with front squats for the same reasons Waller mentioned above.
Recently dropped the weight on normal squats and placed a board under the heels and was amazed by the difference in feel, my reasons behind this was squats seemed to work my inner thigh and arse and have developed a rounded ass which I fucking hate. Will probably never flat foot squat again