True Adonis vs Durianrider/Freelee the Banana Girl

[absfabs]

Adonis, if you can hear me....Do you yo yo in weight? cutting down then blowing up? Durianrider claims all calorie restricters do...  I am trying to get cut for first time ....   Do your principles work long term? 6-6 285 here.

[absfabs]

Adonis, if you can hear me....Do you yo yo in weight? cutting down then blowing up? Durianrider claims all calorie restricters do...  I am trying to get cut for first time ....   Do your principles work long term? 6-6 285 here.

I expect getbig response, but I am genuinely curious about this.   This guy does a lot of cardio, and eats all fruit, and is 5% bodyfat for 12 years +
He claims calorie resticting leads to binge blowouts.  This is my experience.
Maybe wavelength and true adonis do it in a less harsh way, like slowly reducing calories, I do not know I am fat even after losing 30 pounds eating a lot of fruit and doing 60min cardio each morning.   
I guess it boils down to can you stay long term on a cutting calorie restricting diet?
I have never been cut, always skinny fat when younger or just plain fat with some muscle when older.

[calfzilla]

But this durian rider has zero muscle.

[trapz101]

would love to have my banana inside freelee

[Montague]

Adonis, if you can hear me....Do you yo yo in weight? cutting down then blowing up? Durianrider claims all calorie restricters do...  I am trying to get cut for first time ....   Do your principles work long term? 6-6 285 here.

I don't think Adonis heard you.

Try typing louder.

[WOOO]

I don't think Adonis heard you.

Try typing louder.

Or sucking goat dick harder

[Ken Fresno]

durianrider's strava stats are sick. Top troll too.

[smoothasf]

I've done it.  You will put on weight if you dont exercise but if you exercise the glucose doesn't have time to convert into any fat at all.  You also feel great on high carbon low fat diets and my cycling progression improved massively.  Also follow him on strava he's one hell of a cyclist on par with most pros.
I find a moderate carb, very low fat diet works better,lean meats and salad/veg ect.

[panos32]

for the last fucking time:

Eat whatever the fuck you want, wont make any difference.
calories in<calories out = you getting ripped.


There is no secret macronutrient ratio that is gonna achieve that faster.

[f450]

for the last fucking time:

Eat whatever the fuck you want, wont make any difference.
calories in<calories out = you getting ripped.


There is no secret macronutrient ratio that is gonna achieve that faster.

Because the body will not re-calibrate itself to achieve homeostasis... in an attempt to maintain a bodyfat to muscle-mass ratio that has been perfected over thousands of years of evolution.

being relatively lean at 12% and being bone dry and ripped at 5.5% is a world of difference ..

Cals in < cals out wont get you any where near there... not by a hundred fucking miles.

I'm so tired of seeing this shit.

[The True Adonis]

Because the body will not re-calibrate itself to achieve homeostasis... in an attempt to maintain a bodyfat to muscle-mass ratio that has been perfected over thousands of years of evolution.

being relatively lean at 12% and being bone dry and ripped at 5.5% is a world of difference ..

Cals in < cals out wont get you any where near there... not by a hundred fucking miles.

I'm so tired of seeing this shit.

Yes it will

[absfabs]

Yes it will

Adonis!!

What do you think of DurianRider and unlimited fruit?

[The True Adonis]

Adonis!!

What do you think of DurianRider and unlimited fruit?

Pointless.

[absfabs]

Pointless.

OK so I would have more fun and faster results with your principles?
What about fat content of food? I am trying to lower blood pressure...6-6 285....
So you stick to cal in out ..... have you had anyone as big as me get results on your program?

[The True Adonis]

OK so I would have more fun and faster results with your principles?
What about fat content of food? I am trying to lower blood pressure...6-6 285....
So you stick to cal in out ..... have you had anyone as big as me get results on your program?

Of course.  Try 2500 calories for a while. 

[absfabs]

Of course.  Try 2500 calories for a while. 

So vegan gains, doc mcdougal, durianrider, freelee are all less than optimum in saying unlimited lowfat carbs?

[absfabs]

Of course.  Try 2500 calories for a while. 

I found 2,500 amazingly hard to stick to.  How do you do it?

[Julio Ceasar]

I found 2,500 amazingly hard to stick to.  How do you do it?

Your weak son of a bitch. Eat your 2500kcal and shut the fuck up! Earn your progress. Lazy mottha fukka!

All your lazy mottha fuckers increase my fire of motivation to stay fit all day...all night...all week...all moth...all year!

[Julio Ceasar]

I found 2,500 amazingly hard to stick to.  How do you do it?

The more nice version of me would say: Its hard in the beginning, it get easier with time, give it a few weeks. Then it get harder again, bcz u need to stay at 2500kcal to maintain. The day you cheat u need 3 days to correct. It never end! That's life. Then u will question yourself, why do I do this. The answer is, you don't wanne take part of the average fat Joe club! Club of weak people, weak willpower.

The day u cheat it will become even worse. Its like drugs. They will drag you down. Stay away from bad food, snacks beverage candy cakes everything. The day u start to cheat it become harder and harder to resist the desire! Eat 3 clean meal/day. That's your new life! Anything else make u a fat slob!

[absfabs]

The more nice version of me would say: Its hard in the beginning, it get easier with time, give it a few weeks. Then it get harder again, bcz u need to stay at 2500kcal to maintain. The day you cheat u need 3 days to correct. It never end! That's life. Then u will question yourself, why do I do this. The answer is, you don't wanne take part of the average fat Joe club! Club of weak people, weak willpower.

The day u cheat it will become even worse. Its like drugs. They will drag you down. Stay away from bad food, snacks beverage candy cakes everything. The day u start to cheat it become harder and harder to resist the desire! Eat 3 clean meal/day. That's your new life! Anything else make u a fat slob!

what do you think of durianrider?

[smoothasf]

If you can stay away from meat the durianrider diet is the way to go. However there's no way in hell I'm living on plants, they just don't taste as good.  Durianrider  (harley) may come across as an arrogant prick but he's trained with the best,  researched everything and the people who followed his diet have gotten much healthier and that's what he promotes, not astetics from food but health and fitness.

[cephissus]

what a coincidence... just found out about durianrider, freelee, and vegan gains

im trying their diet for the rest of september

the thing about 2500 kcal... it seems very low for me.  like yeah i got shredded on 2000 calories but i couldn't do anything and my anxiety went through the roof.

freelee ostensibly eats like 3500 plus, has tons of energy, and probably about the same fat level i had.  when i see something like that (whether to believe it or not is another story, of course), i feel like an utterly misguided piece of shit.

[Julio Ceasar]

what do you think of durianrider?

Seen him before. I was into cycling for 2 years. They talk alot...cant really comment.

Fat people should listen to fit people if they want to loose weight. A lot of fit people have been chubby and overweight. And now they are not! They got the proof in their hand. And fat people have failed! And then all the excuses...excuses ...excuses. They are in so bad condition they cant move and burn those calories! Negative spiral down to hell. Cant even take a walk for 1 hoer without losing their breath and get tired. Feet ace, leg ace, back ace. No willpower, nothing.

For a fit person, training and workout is satisfaction in life. For a fatty, food is satisfaction. U do the math!

[absfabs]

down to 279 at 6-6 from 330 6 months ago
lowfat fruit n little pasta all week
getn more sleep got me past 285 sticking point
jogging 3mile daily
few pushups n girl pushups to burnout after jog

[Marty Champions]

down to 279 at 6-6 from 330 6 months ago
lowfat fruit n little pasta all week
getn more sleep got me past 285 sticking point
jogging 3mile daily
few pushups n girl pushups to burnout after jog

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