Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles

[Coach is Back!]

Sorry for my last post, I saw this explanation.

I think when the average person, or getbigger, says Tebow "can't throw" they're not saying he literally can not throw the ball it's that his skill set isn't up to NFL standard, nor was Charlie Ward, Andre Ware, Danny Waurfell, Troy Smith, Jason White, Terell Prior and many other all time college greats.

I completely understand that. I'm not trying to make a case for Tebow to be a starter. I'm trying to make the case that he should at least be in the NFL either as a 2-3 back up or practice squad to allow him get more reps. During his time off while he was still working out to get on a team, his reps were probably one on one's and not 7 on 7's into manned coverage. My feeling is he needs those game speed reps.

Kurt Warner, not a college great nor a draft pick, was a guy who needed reps to improve. Coach Kelly also said Tebow needs more game reps. No one has ever been wowed by Tim's arm strength, he's no Stafford,  or his delivery, it's not prototypical, but his charisma and leadership is elite.

So when most say Tebow "can't throw" it means he isn't accurate enough, not that he doesn't have arm strength.

As far as his mechanics coach, it's the same one Tom Brady uses, was his throwing motion completely reinvented or was it refined/fine tuned?

Brady is in a class himself. Not even a fair comparison. But his mechanics are not the same but I'll go back and compare. What works for Brady wouldn't work for Tebow or anyone else and the same goes for anyone else trying to emulate Brady. You can make adjustments but you can't reinvent a natural throwing motion

[240 is Back]

coach, if it's not Tebow's arm...

Is it his brain?  Not mentally quick enough to beat NFL starting defenses?

[Thin Lizzy]

So you know more than all the NFL coaches and scouts in regards to player evaluation? And you are qualified for this because you show guys how to lift weights? And your theory is that there is a massive atheist / liberal conspiracy to keep Tebow out of the NFL because he is a Christian? Don't you realize that there are all kinds of college quarterbacks who are great at the collegiate level but don't cut it in the NFL...Jamarcus Russel, RG3, Tebow, Vince Young, Danny Wuerffel, and the list goes on and on.

Yes, the Jets, with their primarily white fan base, preferred a black quarterback, Geno Smith, to the much less marketable white Christian quarterback, Tebow.

[SF1900]

So you know more than all the NFL coaches and scouts in regards to player evaluation? And you are qualified for this because you show guys how to lift weights? And your theory is that there is a massive atheist / liberal conspiracy to keep Tebow out of the NFL because he is a Christian? Don't you realize that there are all kinds of college quarterbacks who are great at the collegiate level but don't cut it in the NFL...Jamarcus Russel, RG3, Tebow, Vince Young, Danny Wuerffel, and the list goes on and on.

You know religious people are batshit crazy when they start talking about a grand conspiracy of atheists in the NFL. lol 

[Coach is Back!]

Out of all the consistent posters on here, none are professional athletes. Unless Joe Montana is pretending to be Army of One or something. Other than that, no professional athletes have posted in this thread.

Again, no one here has the knowledge that professional trainers or coaches have. They know best. He didn't make the team for a reason. Its not some grand conspiracy to keep Tebow out of the NFL because hes a religious zealot. 

Bullshit. Besides myself I know of at least two other regular posters on here. Besides, define that.

[SF1900]

Bullshit. Besides myself I know of at least two other regular posters on here. Besides, define that.

You wrote, "You don't know if there isn't professional athletes on here also."

So, there are professional football players here who are posting in this thread?

You realize I didn't mean any professional athlete, considering this is a football thread. I mean, we may as well throw in professional ping-pong players and make them experts on football, considering they are "professionals."

If you can point out who are the professional football players in this thread, then I will concede my point.

[Dave D]

Thanks for the clarification.
Thank you.

[Coach is Back!]

coach, if it's not Tebow's arm...

Is it his brain?  Not mentally quick enough to beat NFL starting defenses?

I have no idea. I'm just talking about throwing mechanics.

[Coach is Back!]

You wrote, "You don't know if there isn't professional athletes on here also."

So, there are professional football players here who are posting in this thread?

You realize I didn't mean any professional athlete, considering this is a football thread. I mean, we may as well throw in professional ping-pong players and make them experts on football, considering they are "professionals."

If you can point out who are the professional football players in this thread, then I will concede my point.

I said professional S&C coaches and trainers and a few that have admitted to playing at the D1 level during their college careers. I have no reason to doubt them. One was a strength coach in a  prominent D1 school. Besides, weren't you the one who said that "training was training" and it shouldn't be that hard to train athletes when it's all the same?

[SF1900]

I said professional S&C coaches and trainers and a few that have admitted to playing at the D1 level during their college careers. I have no reason to doubt them. One was a strength coach in a  prominent D1 school. Besides, weren't you the one who said that "training was training" and it shouldn't be that hard to train athletes when it's all the same?

Um, no, you also said above PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES. That is someone who plays a PROFESSIONAL SPORT (NHL, MLB, NFL, NBA, etc.). ITS RIGHT THERE IN BOLDED RED!! You said, "You don't know if there isn't professional athletes on here also."

I am pretty sure no one on here is a PROFESSIONAL athlete. As you know, D1 is different than playing professional, so unless you can pinpoint someone on GB who was a professional athlete, past or current, I will assume no one on here has played on a professional sports team.

Perhaps there are S and C coaches on here. I do not know. I may be wrong, I may be right.

Training professional football players is a whole different story than training your average housewife or gym rat. I was referring to the latter.

[Coach is Back!]

Um, no, you also said above PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES. That is someone who plays a PROFESSIONAL SPORT (NHL, MLB, NFL, NBA, etc.). ITS RIGHT THERE IN BOLDED RED!! You said, "You don't know if there isn't professional athletes on here also."

There is but what difference would that make?

I am pretty sure no one on here is a PROFESSIONAL athlete. As you know, D1 is different than playing professional, so unless you can pinpoint someone on GB who was a professional athlete, past or current, I will assume no one on here has played on a professional sports team.

Perhaps there are S and C coaches on here. I do not know. I may be wrong, I may be right.

Training professional football players is a whole different story than training your average housewife or gym rat. I was referring to the latter.

No you weren't, we've had this discussion in depth. You even wanted to see "studies"..lol

[Devon97]

What do you think I do for a living? Is this another troll job?

Hehehe either that or he must be a lurker.

[TuHolmes]

Um, no, you also said above PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES. That is someone who plays a PROFESSIONAL SPORT (NHL, MLB, NFL, NBA, etc.). ITS RIGHT THERE IN BOLDED RED!! You said, "You don't know if there isn't professional athletes on here also."

I am pretty sure no one on here is a PROFESSIONAL athlete. As you know, D1 is different than playing professional, so unless you can pinpoint someone on GB who was a professional athlete, past or current, I will assume no one on here has played on a professional sports team.

Perhaps there are S and C coaches on here. I do not know. I may be wrong, I may be right.

Training professional football players is a whole different story than training your average housewife or gym rat. I was referring to the latter.

Option D was a professional football player. Not NFL, but pro.

[SF1900]

What difference does it make? Well, a professional athlete would clearly have a better opinion over the the average guy sitting at home and watching football on a sunday afternoon.

Yes, its called studies. You know, that weird thing that people call "science." You know, the thing that trainers do in major universities, like USC.  Look, I can do it too, "lol hahah."

Again, no one here consistently trains professional athletes on a daily basis to form a solid opinion of why Tebow was cut. We are not in the "know."

Maybe he was cut because hes a religious zealot. 

[Devon97]

Option D was a professional football player. Not NFL, but pro.

semi-pro isn't "pro" you play for free and have to supply your own pads

[SF1900]

Option D was a professional football player. Not NFL, but pro.

Who cares about anything else but the NFL.

Ive said hundreds of times I know jack-shit about football (besides some minor things), so the chances that I was referring to anything else besides the NFL is laughable.

[TuHolmes]

semi-pro isn't "pro" you play for free and have to supply your own pads

I think Jeff Garcia got paid when he played for Omaha.

Who cares about anything else but the NFL.

Ive said hundreds of times I know jack-shit about football (besides some minor things), so the chances that I was referring to anything else besides the NFL is laughable.

A lot of people care about the games other than the NFL.

Come on, don't you remember the XFL... It was great! For like a week.

Seriously though, see my afore mentioned comment about Jeff Garcia who did play for a non NFL team then go back to the NFL.

[Devon97]

I always thought Tebow did well with Denver by winning the play-offs game with them.

The problem with Tebow is that Denver had to change their entire offense around to fit him. When he took over his second year with them, they basically ran the zone-read every play to utilize his running ability but u can't use a QB as a part of the running game in the league with out getting him beat up.

( and no Russell Wilson scrambles on broken plays)

Never understood why another team couldnt squeeze him into the 3 deep.

From what I understand he has poor throwing mechanics and his stats were awful in the pre-season games. With the last few teams he was with.

[SF1900]

I think Jeff Garcia got paid when he played for Omaha.
A lot of people care about the games other than the NFL.

Come on, don't you remember the XFL... It was great! For like a week.

Seriously though, see my afore mentioned comment about Jeff Garcia who did play for a non NFL team then go back to the NFL.

No, I have never heard of the XFL. I assume its some sort of sport organization. Personally, I think sports are a waste of time. I played them all throughout my childhood and adolescence.

To be honest, everything I have said in this thread I am probably wrong. lol. Coach is probably more right than I am. I know pretty much nothing about football, or most sports. Its just fun to troll and see certain people meltdown lol 

[TuHolmes]

No, I have never heard of the XFL. I assume its some sort of sport organization. Personally, I think sports are a waste of time. I played them all throughout my childhood and adolescence.

To be honest, everything I have said in this thread I am probably wrong. lol. Coach is probably more right than I am. I know pretty much nothing about football, or most sports. Its just fun to troll and see certain people meltdown lol 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFL

[SF1900]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFL

so, its basically a bunch of people who werent good enough to make it in the NFL?

[TuHolmes]

so, its basically a bunch of people who werent good enough to make it in the NFL?

Actually, they had some players go to the NFL.

[SquatsRule]

Jesus handing it off to Tebow when he was a kid. 

Jesus was telling Tebow to be a running back here.

[SF1900]

Actually, they had some players go to the NFL.

Well, at least some made it to the NFL!!

[SF1900]

Jesus was telling Tebow to be a running back here.

Too bad he didn't listen. He could have still been in the NFL.