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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2015, 04:22:06 PM »
Ridiculous.

What are they gonna do, have a test to see if the trainer can count to ten?

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2015, 06:00:22 PM »
Ridiculous.

What are they gonna do, have a test to see if the trainer can count to ten?

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2015, 06:10:58 PM »
I recently confronted a PT with his BS claim that he was able to burn 70 pounds of pure fat in only 3 months, so yeah, some regulation makes sense...

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2015, 06:11:23 PM »
Ridiculous.

What are they gonna do, have a test to see if the trainer can count to ten?

Well, most professions have governing boards (dentists, medical doctors, physical therapists, social work/psychology, nursing, occupational therapy, speech/language pathology, etc). Governing boards are useful for handling, as the article says, issues of sexual misconduct or injury. Without a governing board, who is regulating personal trainers that do unethical things toward their clients? If a personal trainer does something unethical, who do they answer to? I mean, not every ethical issue is severe enough to be handled by the cops, but still needs attention brought to a governing board. Maybe I am wrong about this. Perhaps someone here who works with athletes on a daily basis can provide me with information about this. It is obviously not my strongsuit.

The governing board should only be used when dealing with areas of gross negligence and regulating specific unethical practices. Other than that, it should "lay low."
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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2015, 06:33:37 PM »
It shouldnt be regulated,people just should do their researchand not be so stupid.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2015, 06:35:31 PM »
I've yet to see any clients of any personal trainers in my gym that have improved.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2015, 06:42:57 PM »


The governing board should only be used when dealing with areas of gross negligence and regulating specific unethical practices. Other than that, it should "lay low."

That's what insurance if for.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2015, 06:51:16 PM »
That's what insurance if for.

That's where elementary school is for..

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2015, 06:57:39 PM »
It shouldnt be regulated,people just should do their researchand not be so stupid.

But then why are other professions regulated? Why regulated medical doctors and dentists, etc?

The issue with people doing the research is that it fails to take into account the accountability of the actual professional. No matter what doctor I go to, I am under the assumption that a medical doctor is going to do right by me. You can't apply the notion of "buyer beware" to medical professionals. The patient is not to blame when a doctor fucks up. Buyer beware is applicable when youre buying a piece of furniture or a car. Not when going to a doctor. Of course youre going to go and try to find the best doctor you can, but doctors (and people in other professions) take an oath to do "no harm." The point is that people are stupid when it comes to medicine, thus why we put so much hope in doctors to do the right thing. Again, if you go to a doctor who fucks up, the notion of "buyer beware" should not apply, and it doesn't, which is why when a doctor fucks up, they are held accountable (lose their license, jailed or pay a fine). Again, this applies to most other professions (dentists, occupational therapists, social workers, nurses, etc.).

Might I add that governing boards do a lot more than just look at unethical issues. They ensure that universities are maintaining a certain standard of education and practice, i.e., if a school wants to be accredited, they can't teach whatever they want. Well, they can, they just wont be accredited. Its their choice.

Why shouldn't it apply to personal trainers? I am not saying it should, but I am asking why it shouldn't.

Just playing devils advocate.
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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2015, 07:22:47 PM »
Why if thif even an iffue? Yef, perfonal trainerf fhould be regulated. Do infurance policief impofe fanctionf on deviouf and otherwife unemployable fwindlerf?

I see what you did there!!! LMAO!!!  ;D ;D
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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2015, 07:23:26 PM »
Why if thif even an iffue? Yef, perfonal trainerf fhould be regulated. Do infurance policief impofe fanctionf on deviouf and otherwife unemployable fwindlerf?

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2015, 07:48:37 PM »
That's where elementary school is for..

Are you saying you can do my job with you're current knowledge? lol

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2015, 07:57:09 PM »
That's what insurance if for.
Typical. You mess someone up with training gimmicks and let someone else pay for the damages.

This regulation is a great idea. Will keep people from being injured and fleeced by incompetent buffoons.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2015, 08:00:14 PM »
Typical. You mess someone up with training gimmicks and let someone else pay for the damages.

Go back to your moms basement and shut the fuck up or make yourself known....pussy.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2015, 08:01:14 PM »
Are you saying you can do my job with you're current knowledge? lol

You have to be trolling, right, Coach?  ;D ;D

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2015, 08:09:13 PM »
Are you saying you can do my job with you're current knowledge? lol
Anyone could. I think I have a spare tire down in the garage. Knowledge ::)

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2015, 08:12:05 PM »
I've never not worked out at a place where half the trainers were sleezy pervs. They're spot on about sexual misconduct in that industry...

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2015, 08:15:42 PM »
It shouldnt be regulated,people just should do their researchand not be so stupid.

A lot of women that have never worked out before go into the gym and get a trainer. These little pricks are asking them out and shit...That happens in a doctors office and doctor won't last too long. But in this industry, the woman just leaves the gym and never comes back. PErsonal trainers have been out of control for some time now. They need to reel that shit in along with the supp industry.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2015, 08:17:25 PM »
A lot of women that have never worked out before go into the gym and get a trainer. These little pricks are asking them out and shit...That happens in a doctors office and doctor won't last too long. But in this industry, the woman just leaves the gym and never comes back. PErsonal trainers have been out of control for some time now. They need to reel that shit in along with the supp industry.

Which is why I said this above:

But then why are other professions regulated? Why regulated medical doctors and dentists, etc?

The issue with people doing the research is that it fails to take into account the accountability of the actual professional. No matter what doctor I go to, I am under the assumption that a medical doctor is going to do right by me. You can't apply the notion of "buyer beware" to medical professionals. The patient is not to blame when a doctor fucks up. Buyer beware is applicable when youre buying a piece of furniture or a car. Not when going to a doctor. Of course youre going to go and try to find the best doctor you can, but doctors (and people in other professions) take an oath to do "no harm." The point is that people are stupid when it comes to medicine, thus why we put so much hope in doctors to do the right thing. Again, if you go to a doctor who fucks up, the notion of "buyer beware" should not apply, and it doesn't, which is why when a doctor fucks up, they are held accountable (lose their license, jailed or pay a fine). Again, this applies to most other professions (dentists, occupational therapists, social workers, nurses, etc.).

Might I add that governing boards do a lot more than just look at unethical issues. They ensure that universities are maintaining a certain standard of education and practice, i.e., if a school wants to be accredited, they can't teach whatever they want. Well, they can, they just wont be accredited. Its their choice.

Why shouldn't it apply to personal trainers? I am not saying it should, but I am asking why it shouldn't.

Just playing devils advocate.
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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2015, 08:33:34 PM »
Oh brother ::)

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2015, 08:38:31 PM »
Anyone could. I think I have a spare tire down in the garage. Knowledge ::)

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Personally, if youre in any profession where you are directly working with patients/clients/participants, there should be some regulation or oversight.

I still don't know why its expected of every other profession except personal trainers.  ??? ???
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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2015, 08:46:26 PM »
Go back to your moms basement and shut the fuck up or make yourself known....pussy.

Proverbs 29:11 - A fool gives full vent to his spirit, but a wise man quietly holds it back.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2015, 08:54:46 PM »
;D ;D

Personally, if youre in any profession where you are directly working with patients/clients/participants, there should be some regulation or oversight.

I still don't know why its expected of every other profession except personal trainers.  ??? ???

And what are they going to regulate genius? Everything they intend to regulate is covered in most insurance policies. All the way from child molestation to sexual harassment.

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Re: Government overreach regarding personal trainers
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2015, 09:22:53 PM »
Proverbs 29:11 - A fool gives full vent to his spirit, but a wise man quietly holds it back.


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