Funny interview

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[Kwon_2]

Now we have this May Floydweather character

[Rascal full]

I thought it was maybe the one where Joe Frazier is talking about the time Ali called him an "uncle tom". He didn't know what the term meant and thought he was calling him a "peeping" tom lol. I had tears in my eyes from that one.
 I loved Frazier and Foreman, they were huge inspirations for me when i was a teenager. Tyson was very smart to have avoided Foreman...Cus knew it and so did mike; Foreman had his number.

These guys represented everything good about boxing, pure class. You'll never see this type of behaviour any more, not so much because there aren't boxers who have the same level of decency, but because it doesn't sell. It's pathetic that guys like Broner are the ones getting all the publicity these days. The whole "worldstar" generation disgust me.

Great post.....agree with this except the bit about Foreman having Tysons number. That fight would have been explosive maybe two rounds but it could have gone either way. What did Cus say about this? I never heard that.

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I'm not a tyson hater, I loved him as a kid and have met him once too, but I really do think that Foreman would have had the physical and mental tools to have beat him. After the shame of the Ali fight, Foreman would have died in that ring before he gave in. He wouldn't have been swayed by tyson's intimidation factor....Foreman and Liston had mastered that act long before mike. He also had the Height, reach and strength advantage. Foreman was without doubt, one of the hardest hitting boxers of all time.
We seen what he did to Frazier...a short guy who used that bobbing and weaving style to try and get in close...Foreman took him off his feet. Tyson's peek-a-boo style was different, and more skilled than Frazier's, but it would have played right into Foremans strengths. He also had a chin of solid granite...Tyson would most definitely have tested it, and George would take a serious beating in the early rounds, but Tyson would tire and i believe,  he would likely get caught similarly to the Buster Douglas fight.

Regarding Cus, this is an excerpt from a story by someone in their circles, I can't guarantee it's validity though:

"Throughout the lunch Goodman, Duva, Benton, and myself shared stories and thoughts on the fight game. Out of the blue Goodman said, "Oh I remember why else Tyson wanted no parts of Foreman. He said that King had found out from Steve Lott that Tyson and Cus D'Amato used to watch the Frazier-Foreman fight over and over." He continued saying that Tyson loved that fight because he was awed by Foreman's power and Frazier's toughness and how he kept getting up after every knockdown. He also said that Lott told King that Cus sat alongside Tyson saying, "It's suicide against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier,"

This is of course, all speculation...there's endless debates about this lol, and when i look at it closer i can definitely see how it could go the other way for a Prime Tyson too. It's a shame we never got to find out.

Such a shame the fight never happened. I remember when Tyson was in his prime knocking everyone out Foreman actually wanted to fight him. He also went on David Letterman or a show similar to that and called Tyson out saying it would take him only a few rounds to finish him much to the immense satisfaction (and excitement) of the crowd!
I think you might be right about the styles suiting Foreman more but I am such a Tyson mark I like to think he would have beaten everyone on any given day!

[Alucard]

I'm not a tyson hater, I loved him as a kid and have met him once too, but I really do think that Foreman would have had the physical and mental tools to have beat him. After the shame of the Ali fight, Foreman would have died in that ring before he gave in. He wouldn't have been swayed by tyson's intimidation factor....Foreman and Liston had mastered that act long before mike. He also had the Height, reach and strength advantage. Foreman was without doubt, one of the hardest hitting boxers of all time.
We seen what he did to Frazier...a short guy who used that bobbing and weaving style to try and get in close...Foreman took him off his feet. Tyson's peek-a-boo style was different, and more skilled than Frazier's, but it would have played right into Foremans strengths. He also had a chin of solid granite...Tyson would most definitely have tested it, and George would take a serious beating in the early rounds, but Tyson would tire and i believe,  he would likely get caught similarly to the Buster Douglas fight.

Regarding Cus, this is an excerpt from a story by someone in their circles, I can't guarantee it's validity though:

"Throughout the lunch Goodman, Duva, Benton, and myself shared stories and thoughts on the fight game. Out of the blue Goodman said, "Oh I remember why else Tyson wanted no parts of Foreman. He said that King had found out from Steve Lott that Tyson and Cus D'Amato used to watch the Frazier-Foreman fight over and over." He continued saying that Tyson loved that fight because he was awed by Foreman's power and Frazier's toughness and how he kept getting up after every knockdown. He also said that Lott told King that Cus sat alongside Tyson saying, "It's suicide against Foreman if you're short and fight a swarming attacking style like Marciano or Frazier,"

This is of course, all speculation...there's endless debates about this lol, and when i look at it closer i can definitely see how it could go the other way for a Prime Tyson too. It's a shame we never got to find out.

Correct... Foreman is probably the hardest hitter heavyweight ever, confirmed by people who sparred him and others, and no doubt the physically strongest, with a steel chin, iron will and heart, a tough matchup for pretty much everyone in history, even boxing and circling/running is 50-50 mostly... Bad matchup for Tyson, i'd say prime Foreman over any version in the early rounds, old Foreman depends on what version of Tyson shows up, certainly more competitive, old Foreman was slow/too slow, with more patience...

[Alucard]

haha yeah i know what you mean. I have my fighters too, that i tend to romanticise a bit with regards to their skills, but there's definitely truth in it with Tyson. He's very much a "what if" fighter. What if Cus stayed around, and Mike remained focused and out of prison? There's no doubt that Mike at his very best, would have been a nightmare for any heavyweight.


Yeah i was thinking about this a few days ago too, if perhaps the old version would have been just a bit too slow, too patient. Like the old Larry Holmes that showed up and got demolished in 4 rounds, if i remember right.
But the thing with fighters like Foreman, they didn't rely on speed and reflexes...power never goes and he was a fighter that used his physical attributes and power to demolish guys, which is why he was so successful even into his forties.
Guys like Holmes, Roy Jones Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard etc...they were gifted with amazing athleticism, reflexes and speed. These things decline a lot quicker as the fighter gets older, as we seen with them.

Interesting fight that should have happened!

Prime Foreman was a master at manipulating the opponents with his strength and smartness, plus masterful ring cutting, and pretty fast too, just not flashy... Old Foreman had the same abilities but too slow and couldn't follow up and stalk an opponent like he should have, much more measured pace and he re-discovered his amazing telephone pole jab, that he wrongly abandoned in the 70s... Tyson should fight smart and probably take away a decision, a la Morrison (although i heard people say that Foreman bet against himself for that fight, fishy), but even then the old man can unload one or two bombs if Tyson gets too aggressive, putting him in very deep waters... You're obviously right regarding strength/power versus athleticism/reflexes/speed, first two attributes decline much less overtime...