Whataburger fires employee for refusing to serve police officers

[Dos Equis]

Are you saying it would be stupid and baseless?

Yep.

[Las Vegas]

Yep.

Why?

[Las Vegas]

The employee should have known better than to think it was an appropriate comment.

[Dos Equis]

Why?

Because.   

[Al Doggity]

Yes it does. People file stupid, baseless complaints all the time.  And yes, they were refused service when the employee told them they don't serve cops.  

They weren't refused service if they paid for food, received food and then returned  said food for a cash refund. That isn't being refused service. That's like saying they were refused service if there was any wait time required to prepare their food.

And,  no, people do not file complaints all the time for things that they admit did not happen.

[Las Vegas]

Because.   

 

In all seriousness, maybe he was looking for a reason to start that funding page.  It wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Dos Equis]

They weren't refused service if they paid for food, received and then returned  it for a cash refund. That isn't being refused service. That's like saying they were refused service if there was any wait time required to prepare their food.

And,  no, people do not file complaints all the time for things that they admit did not happen.

lol.  Uh, yeah, they do.  Unfortunately, people invent and contort facts all the time.  

[Dos Equis]

In all seriousness, maybe he was looking for a reason to start that funding page.  It wouldn't surprise me at all.

I'm not actually disagreeing with any of your assumptions. 

[Al Doggity]

lol.  Uh, yeah, they do.  Unfortunately, people invent and contort facts all the time.

  Yes, inventing and contorting facts ie lying. Like I said, people don't file complaints over events that they admit didn't happen. According to their own version of events, they weren't denied service.

The first thing they did was run to the media. If they had the option, they would have filed a discrimination complaint.

[Las Vegas]

I'm not actually disagreeing with any of your assumptions. 

I think both sides maybe had an agenda.  But it seems the media wants everyone to grab one side or the other and hold on for dear life.

[Las Vegas]

But if the guy hadn't made the dumb and unfunny comment, the opportunity wouldn't have come up for the cops to do their part.

That's the bottom line.

[240 is Back]

personally, I'd smack the shithead working at arbys or whatever.

but it's interesting...

if a customer is wearing a prostitute outfit, can the place deny her?
if the customer is wearing a nazi shit, can the place deny her?
if the customer is wearing an anti-obama shirt, can the place deny her?

at some point, a restaurant really has the right to refuse anyone, even if the people working are being classless dicks.  I'm glad whataburger (whatever that is) fired this idiot, and I'm glad arbys fired the pembroke kid, but if a self-owned restaurant didn't want to serve someone in a hitler shirt, don't they have that right -legally??

[Las Vegas]

personally, I'd smack the shithead working at arbys or whatever.

but it's interesting...

if a customer is wearing a prostitute outfit, can the place deny her?
if the customer is wearing a nazi shit, can the place deny her?
if the customer is wearing an anti-obama shirt, can the place deny her?

at some point, a restaurant really has the right to refuse anyone, even if the people working are being classless dicks.  I'm glad whataburger (whatever that is) fired this idiot, and I'm glad arbys fired the pembroke kid, but if a self-owned restaurant didn't want to serve someone in a hitler shirt, don't they have that right -legally??

Are you asking whether a place can enforce a dress code?

[Skeletor]

Another chapter in the "war on cops"...

Cop asked to use restroom at Starbucks. They tell him he is not a paying customer so he posts this rant on Facebook:



Starbucks apologized. Do they let anyone use their restroom or only paying customers?

Btw, how did he know the employee was a liberal?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3238433/Starbucks-apologizes-police-officer-refused-restroom-access-wasn-t-paying-customer.html

[Las Vegas]

Another chapter in the "war on cops"...

Cop asked to use restroom at Starbucks. They tell him he is not a paying customer so he posts this rant on Facebook:



Starbucks apologized. Do they let anyone use their restroom or only paying customers?

Btw, how did he know the employee was a liberal?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3238433/Starbucks-apologizes-police-officer-refused-restroom-access-wasn-t-paying-customer.html

How fucking DARE you question him?

[240 is Back]

cop sounds like an idiot.  Calling her a liberal?   lots of conservatives hate cops too.

and do you let all public employees take a crap 3x a day for free in your restroom?  I've worked retail.  Those cops come in, sit down, and play on their phones for 20 minutes while dropping a deuce.  impossible for other patrons to get in there. 

[Dos Equis]

Yes, inventing and contorting facts ie lying. Like I said, people don't file complaints over events that they admit didn't happen. According to their own version of events, they weren't denied service.

The first thing they did was run to the media. If they had the option, they would have filed a discrimination complaint.

What version are you reading?

Whataburger fires employee for refusing to serve police officers
Published September 16, 2015
FoxNews.com

A Texas Whataburger employee was fired Wednesday for refusing to serve two police officers in what the company is describing as an appalling incident.

Officers Michael Magovern and Cameron Beckham were working off-duty security at a construction site on I-35 early Wednesday morning when they decided to stop at the restaurant in Lewisville, FOX 26 reports.

Magovern said before he could even place his order, the man behind the counter told him “We don’t serve police officers.”

The two officers decided to leave and went and got food at Dairy Queen instead.

"We were appalled to hear of an employee refusing service to two officers, as we have proudly served first responders across our system for decades,” Whataburger said in a statement Wednesday. “As soon as we heard of this isolated incident, we began our own internal investigation overnight. The employee that refused service is no longer employed with Whataburger. We've also invited the officers back today so we can apologize in person and make this right."

Magovern told Fox 26 that in “17 years as a firefighter and now 13 years as a police officer this is the first time this has ever happened to me.”

Click for more from Fox 26.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/16/whataburger-fires-employee-for-refusing-to-serve-police-officers/?intcmp=hplnws

[Al Doggity]

What version are you reading?

[Oops!] at me. Was reading a link that was posted below that. Didn't realize they were two different events.

Doesn't really change the fact that the cops ran to the media as quickly as they could. Like you said previously, filing complaints doesn't accomplish anything. You can create so much more drama running to the media.

Are these guys pansies? Is it pansier to file a discrimination complaint or to run to the media? I would think the latter.

[Dos Equis]

[Oops!] at me. Was reading a link that was posted below that. Didn't realize they were two different events.

Doesn't really change the fact that the cops ran to the media as quickly as they could. Like you said previously, filing complaints doesn't accomplish anything. You can create so much more drama running to the media.

Are these guys pansies? Is it pansier to file a discrimination complaint or to run to the media? I would think the latter.

No worries.  I think running to the media (if that's what they did) is pretty dumb, but I wouldn't call them pansies.  I definitely would if they filed a complaint. 

Overall, though, I don't think this story is the same as the barbershop story.

No comments about the actual story itself?  What that employee did doesn't bother you? 

[Al Doggity]

No worries.  I think running to the media (if that's what they did) is pretty dumb, but I wouldn't call them pansies.  I definitely would if they filed a complaint. 

They were interviewed by the local media because they publicized the incident, so it's pretty obvious that they did run to the media.

LOL you're entitled to your personal scale of "pansiness", but there was no ostensible difference between the reasons the cops went to the media and the reasons the woman filed a complaint. They felt they were wronged by  businesses and wanted some sort of satisfaction. Obviously, a news story about a corporate restaurant having an anti-cop policy is going to get a lot of traction. It's not like it's something that would have less impact than filing a complaint or takes less effort, so I don't get the argument one is somehow more ridiculous than the other. If anything, filing a complaint is the reasonable and responsible thing to do.

Overall, though, I don't think this story is the same as the barbershop story.

No comments about the actual story itself?  What that employee did doesn't bother you? 

The stories have differences, but the key points are pretty similar.

I've already stated that I'm not a supporter of discrimination or bad customer service, so what I think of the employee's behavior should be pretty obvious- if the story is taken at face value. It's not that far-fetched to believe that the guy was joking. The barber in the previous story never made the argument.

[Dos Equis]

They were interviewed by the local media because they publicized the incident, so it's pretty obvious that they did run to the media.

LOL you're entitled to your personal scale of "pansiness", but there was no ostensible difference between the reasons the cops went to the media and the reasons the woman filed a complaint. They felt they were wronged by  businesses and wanted some sort of satisfaction. Obviously, a news story about a corporate restaurant having an anti-cop policy is going to get a lot of traction. It's not like it's something that would have less impact than filing a complaint or takes less effort, so I don't get the argument one is somehow more ridiculous than the other. If anything, filing a complaint is the reasonable and responsible thing to do.


The stories have differences, but the key points are pretty similar.

I've already stated that I'm not a supporter of discrimination or bad customer service, so what I think of the employee's behavior should be pretty obvious- if the story is taken at face value. It's not that far-fetched to believe that the guy was joking. The barber in the previous story never made the argument.

Pansy scale?  I like it.   

I think the cops should have reported it to management, which they apparently did, and left it at that.  The employee was fired.  The restaurant apologized and said the conduct was not acceptable.  No need to put them on blast when it was the apparent isolated conduct of one knucklehead. 

If this is a trend, however, then maybe it's worth letting other cops know. 

[Las Vegas]

Cops should probably bring their own lunches to work.  I would, for sure.

[Skeletor]

Cops should probably bring their own lunches to work.  I would, for sure.

Ronnie did so they have no excuse.

[Las Vegas]

Ronnie did so they have no excuse.

K-C MASTAPIECE!!!  I saw that video.  Mr. Steroid plays cop.

[Las Vegas]

I would bring lunch, so no need to worry about a side-order of snot.  The people REALLY out to get you, aren't going to announce themselves with dumb jokes.