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King Shizzo

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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2015, 04:31:30 AM »
It's all about structure gentleman. Look at this photo: Rhoden is getting destroyed in the back double Bi, because it looks like he is missing his lower back muscles. Rhoden has the worst back in this callout. Look at how complete the backs of Dex and Heath are in comparison.

They have slabs of muscle going the length of the back, which makes for a more aesthetically pleasing display.

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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #51 on: September 19, 2015, 04:34:49 AM »
Nobody is good enough to beat Phil here. I'm not saying he necessarily wins in all poses but he does in the majority unfortunately. You have to be outstanding to be the champ and wolf, rhoden, and heath are just too close for someone to dethrone him. I can't say I'm disappointed with any of them winning because all three are just too close and deserving. I think I like Wolf best but I can see why Heath wins. 

If anybody cries that Heath winning is unfair they don't know bodybuilding. Big Ramy disappoints.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #52 on: September 19, 2015, 04:54:02 AM »
Quote from: TTfit on September 19, 2015, 04:34:49 AM
Nobody is good enough to beat Phil here. I'm not saying he necessarily wins in all poses but he does in the majority unfortunately. You have to be outstanding to be the champ and wolf, rhoden, and heath are just too close for someone to dethrone him. I can't say I'm disappointed with any of them winning because all three are just too close and deserving. I think I like Wolf best but I can see why Heath wins. 

If anybody cries that Heath winning is unfair they don't know bodybuilding. Big Ramy disappoints.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #53 on: September 19, 2015, 04:54:50 AM »
Yeh rami is big disappoint....


Totaly blew it, bigger and smoother is never going to work
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #54 on: September 19, 2015, 04:55:14 AM »
Quote from: Shizzo on September 19, 2015, 04:31:30 AM
It's all about structure gentleman. Look at this photo: Rhoden is getting destroyed in the back double Bi, because it looks like he is missing his lower back muscles. Rhoden has the worst back in this callout. Look at how complete the backs of Dex and Heath are in comparison.

They have slabs of muscle going the length of the back, which makes for a more aesthetically pleasing display.


Phil and Wolf lean back. Phil leans back, and he appears shorter, also the leaning back makes his Rhomboids detail extends down to his lower back. It does not. Wolf leans back in an "S" shape, to hide the "hole" in his lower back.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #55 on: September 19, 2015, 04:56:44 AM »


The end is here....

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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2015, 04:58:05 AM »
Quote from: Parker on September 19, 2015, 04:55:14 AM
Phil and Wolf lean back. Phil leans back, and he appears shorter, also the leaning back makes his Rhomboids detail extends down to his lower back. It does not. Wolf leans back in an "S" shape, to hide the "hole" in his lower back.
Notice the difference in Dex's and Rhoden's back then. Both are standing straight up, and Dex clearly has a more complete back.

I am not sure if that is something Rhoden can fix, but that is a pretty big flaw in his physique.

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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2015, 05:00:28 AM »
1) Phil Heath
2) Dennis Wolf
3) Shaun Rhoden
4) Dexter Jackson
5) Big Hammy
6) Branch

Looks like Kai missed a prime opportunity. Hamy might even be in 6th  ;D I told you people he " peaked " for the Arnold he's not going to replicate that again.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #58 on: September 19, 2015, 05:11:02 AM »
Wrap up by Dan Solomon, Shawn Ray, Peter McGough and David Baye & special guest Dexter Jackson
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #59 on: September 19, 2015, 05:11:41 AM »
Wider than Heath

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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #60 on: September 19, 2015, 05:14:54 AM »
Quote from: Shizzo on September 19, 2015, 04:58:05 AM
Notice the difference in Dex's and Rhoden's back then. Both are standing straight up, and Dex clearly has a more complete back.

I am not sure if that is something Rhoden can fix, but that is a pretty big flaw in his physique.



rhoden has quite high lat insertions. That is a bad thing.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #61 on: September 19, 2015, 05:24:56 AM »
Saw pics.  

Heath will win again.

Rhoden is 1st or 2nd in front shots and 4th or 5th from back shots.  He'll be 3rd or 4th.

Dex or Wolf in 2nd.

Kai missed a huge opportunity....nobody likes a diva though.

Kai is a weirdo.....maybe he'll pull a Dennis Newman Saturday night.


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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #62 on: September 19, 2015, 05:29:18 AM »
Quote from: FitnessFrenzy on September 19, 2015, 05:14:54 AM
rhoden has quite high lat insertions. That is a bad thing.
It's the angle. His lats insert mid level. Wolf and Dex have high lats.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #63 on: September 19, 2015, 05:33:58 AM »
Quote from: Parker on September 19, 2015, 05:29:18 AM
It's the angle. His lats insert mid level. Wolf and Dex have high lats.
Angle? Standing straight up in the back double Bi, it looks like doctors removed the lower half of his back. Do you not see the difference compared to Dex?

That is not what we would call aesthetically pleasing. I would go as far to say that it will keep him from ever winning the Olympia.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #64 on: September 19, 2015, 05:35:57 AM »
Team Glazed donuts batteling it out ::)

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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #65 on: September 19, 2015, 05:41:49 AM »
Quote from: affeman on September 19, 2015, 05:35:57 AM
Team Glazed donuts batteling it out ::)


If they are glazed donuts, then that makes Big Ramy a polished turd.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #66 on: September 19, 2015, 05:51:13 AM »
The Wolf first.

Sleepy Rhoden second.

Phildo turd...errrr...third.

Dennis has Rhoden from the back with ease.  Sleepy is good, but not better than the Wolf. This time.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #67 on: September 19, 2015, 06:39:43 AM »
LOL @ people saying "Heath third"

Even at 80% of his prime, Heath still wipes the floor with everyone from the back. Toss up every other angle.
Heath wins, as much as it pains me to say it.

Kai has freaky lat insertions, he missed out on taking the Olympia (if he was actually in shape, etc. etc.)

Too many if's in everyone's statements....

Jesus, I hope the new Classic bodybuilding really takes off! I'll shit in one hand, and hope in the other. Let's see which one fills up first.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #68 on: September 19, 2015, 07:15:53 AM »
Phil's quads are the smallest and worst they've ever been. Rhoden's oil filled arms look horrible and fake in every pose especially the side chest where his arms look worse than an NPC state level guy. Phil's back beats everyone else this year on detail and thickness. Dennis doesn't look his best. Dexter is spot on as always. Don't see how Rhoden beats Jackson but my guess it will be 1 Heath, 2 Rhoden, 3 Jackson, 4 Wolf.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #69 on: September 19, 2015, 07:21:42 AM »
Quote from: SquidVicious on September 19, 2015, 07:15:53 AM
Phil's quads are the smallest and worst they've ever been. Rhoden's oil filled arms look horrible and fake in every pose especially the side chest where his arms look worse than an NPC state level guy. Phil's back beats everyone else this year on detail and thickness. Dennis doesn't look his best. Dexter is spot on as always. Don't see how Rhoden beats Jackson but my guess it will be 1 Heath, 2 Rhoden, 3 Jackson, 4 Wolf.

1. Heath
2. Jackson
3. Rhoden
4. Wolf
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #70 on: September 19, 2015, 07:32:30 AM »
Quote from: affeman on September 19, 2015, 05:11:41 AM
Wider than Heath



Wolf's waist is forty inches and his calves are fourteen inches. He should not be on that stage.
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #71 on: September 19, 2015, 07:36:41 AM »
As much as I hate to say it, based on the pics posted, Phil's going to win it.

1. Heath
2. Jackson
3. Wolf or Rhoden
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #72 on: September 19, 2015, 07:38:36 AM »
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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #73 on: September 19, 2015, 07:39:50 AM »
Quote from: tommywishbone on September 19, 2015, 07:32:30 AM
Wolf's waist is forty inches and his calves are fourteen inches. He should not be on that stage.

Fair enough.  Take away the drugs and none of them would be there.  With waistline as the measurement, Coleman should never have won a single Olympia.  Neither would Jay or Heath.  Reality is tough. 

At least Wolf seems a decent, humble and grateful man.  The only one that could pull off being "arrogant" was the Oak and that being because he backed it up with his physique and a sense of humor that made his demeanor pleasantly palatable.

Heath is just a whiny manlet.

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Re: 2015 Olympia - Prejudging Discussion
« Reply #74 on: September 19, 2015, 07:42:15 AM »
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