Very good review from rxmuscle...Lol

[Red Hook]

Let be honest guys... unless someone completely and totally blow Heath away then the Judges/powers that be will award him the title

Sad but true, this is just how these things works.  Bodybuilding is a joke when it comes to judging. Heath has one more gift victory left before they decide to move on from him

- Wolf won't get it, he is not consistent enough
- Dexter, tried that didn't work, not exciting enough
- Rhoden, next year maybe, as of now the powers that be needs to be assured that he will be a good little soldier.


that leaves Heath, after this year he will have out lasted his usefulness.. see Cutler as an example

Heath wins
Wolf Second
Rhoden Third

you can swap 2nd and 3rd and no one will complain

[TuHolmes]

Let be honest guys... unless someone completely and totally blow Heath away then the Judges/powers that be will award him the title

Sad but true, this is just how these things works.  Bodybuilding is a joke when it comes to judging. Heath has one more gift victory left before they decide to move on from him

- Wolf won't get it, he is not consistent enough
- Dexter, tried that didn't work, not exciting enough
- Rhoden, next year maybe, as of now the powers that be needs to be assured that he will be a good little soldier.


that leaves Heath, after this year he will have out lasted his usefulness.. see Cutler as an example

Heath wins
Wolf Second
Rhoden Third

you can swap 2nd and 3rd and no one will complain

This

[SF1900]

Let be honest guys... unless someone completely and totally blow Heath away then the Judges/powers that be will award him the title

Sad but true, this is just how these things works.  Bodybuilding is a joke when it comes to judging. Heath has one more gift victory left before they decide to move on from him

- Wolf won't get it, he is not consistent enough
- Dexter, tried that didn't work, not exciting enough
- Rhoden, next year maybe, as of now the powers that be needs to be assured that he will be a good little soldier.


that leaves Heath, after this year he will have out lasted his usefulness.. see Cutler as an example

Heath wins
Wolf Second
Rhoden Third

you can swap 2nd and 3rd and no one will complain

That's the issue: You shouldn't have to BLOW away the current champ. As long as you beat him. It doesnt matter if you win the Super bowl by 1 point or 100 points. You still win. The idea that you have to "blow the champ" out of the water is stupid and absurd, which is why the same guys win every year. Imagine if any other sport was like that? So fucking stupid.

[WalterWhite]

That's the issue: You shouldn't have to BLOW away the current champ. As long as you beat him. It doesnt matter if you win the Super bowl by 1 point or 100 points. You still win. The idea that you have to "blow the champ" out of the water is stupid and absurd, which is why the same guys win every year. Imagine if any other sport was like that? So fucking stupid.

Fully agree and seeing the results thus far we will get the same predictable result.

I will say Phil has never looked so narrow!

[Azure]

I think it should be the opposite. The champ should blow everyone else out of the water and if he doesn't then thet should be taken into consideration. A 4x mr olympia should smoke the stage. According to most people watching that didn't happen

[Never1AShow]

That's the issue: You shouldn't have to BLOW away the current champ. As long as you beat him. It doesnt matter if you win the Super bowl by 1 point or 100 points. You still win. The idea that you have to "blow the champ" out of the water is stupid and absurd, which is why the same guys win every year. Imagine if any other sport was like that? So fucking stupid.

This is inherent to a situation where the top 3-4 are all within 5 percent of each other and people also have subjective ideals about what is best.  A case can be made for each of them.

[Lustral]

I agree. Surprisingly good commentary. Aceto and Nicholls are insightful and articulate. Fuckface Pablumbo should let these guys finish more of their thoughts before cutting in mid-sentence to jump to something else. Cormier couldn't string together a coherent sentence, but Pakulski's extemporaneous candor was constructive.

It is hard to be articulate on MDMA. The thoughts are there, but when the mouth opens... the words elude you.

[Wiggs]

It is hard to be articulate on MDMA. The thoughts are there, but when the mouth opens... the words elude you.

Cormier brain is mush. That seems pretty obvious over the past couple years. He was a great bodybuilder.

[SF1900]

This is inherent to a situation where the top 3-4 are all within 5 percent of each other and people also have subjective ideals about what is best.  A case can be made for each of them.

In other words, to a great extent, bodybuilding will be a farce? 

[Irongrip400]

Aceto sorta reminds me of a middle aged Pryzbylewski from The Wire-

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Really good commentary from those guys.

"Fuck Prez"

[SF1900]

Damn, Chad destroyed Rami. 

[Wiggs]

Ramy needs a Neil Hill or Chris Aceto.  That's it. He needs some serious refinement.

[BB]

Ramy needs a Neil Hill or Chris Aceto.  That's it. He needs some serious refinement.

This is true, he needs one of the older gurus that aren't stuck on just adding more size, but I doubt it will happen.

[ChopperRider]

I always say I don't know anything about jusging even after all this time but they said the same things I was saying. Interesting that nobody has phil in first based on merit. They also touched on something else that I noticed. Little to no passion. That's what was missing. Kai brought that passion to the stage.
These guys were boring to watch and did not look like they were fighting for their chance to win

Let's get back to reality here and remember what Kai brings:

Water logged physique
No symmetry
Huge gut
And the ABSOLUTE worst posing routine in the history of BBing

Kai is the reason Kai loses.

[Azure]

Let's get back to reality here and remember what Kai brings:

Water logged physique
No symmetry
Huge gut
And the ABSOLUTE worst losing routine in the history of BBing

Kai is the reason Kai loses.

He also brings an entertaining routine and gets people fired up. He ar least brings some Fire to the stage. The other guys commented about oeople sleepwalking and frankly I'm not quite sure what phil was doing: screaming like he does in those workouts. He just wasn't right all the way. Just the details were not there.

[SF1900]

He also brings an entertaining routine and gets people fired up. He ar least brings some Fire to the stage. The other guys commented about oeople sleepwalking and frankly I'm not quite sure what phil was doing: screaming like he does in those workouts. He just wasn't right all the way. Just the details were not there.

What's with all this shit about "wanting it" and "being fired" up on stage?

Its fucking pose. Either your poses are good enough to beat the other competitors or they are not.

If you look like shit, who cares how fired up you are. This is why Branch Warren keeps cracking top 6 or top 10 because he gets "fired up."  However, his physique should place out of top 10. Do you think he deserves top 6 in some contests because he gets fired up? 

The physique should speak for themselves.

[Azure]

What's with all this shit about "wanting it" and "being fired" up on stage?

Its fucking pose. Either your poses are good enough to beat the other competitors or they are not.

If you look like shit, who cares how fired up you are. This is why Branch Warren keeps cracking top 6 or top 10 because he gets "fired up."  However, his physique should place out of top 10. Do you think he deserves top 6 in some contests because he gets fired up? 

The physique should speak for themselves.

It's a boring show otherwise and if they're talking about you have to knock out the such amp then the champ should be fired up. That's part of any good competition.

As we said before kai was one if the only ones who put an effort into his posing. This is entertainment and showmanship

Phil was tripping yesterday though. He has been acting weird for a while now. He was acting like he does in those videos
 

[Hulkotron]

"Knock the champ out" oh brother

[Wiggs]

It's a boring show otherwise and if they're talking about you have to knock out the such amp then the champ should be fired up. That's part of any good competition.

As we said before kai was one if the only ones who put an effort into his posing. This is entertainment and showmanship

Phil was tripping yesterday though. He has been acting weird for a while now. He was acting like he does in those videos
 

I know this is going deeper than anyone wants to go but we have remember Phil is no longer with his wife for whatever reason. They've been married for 7-8 years and for a couple to break up then throw in that she had cancer as well is a lot on someones plate as just a regular guy. Throw in he's Mr. Olympia and everything that comes with that, and you see there's alot of stress involved. Phil's had a rough last 365 days.  It was this time a year ago after he won his 4th that he was giving us a speech about his wife.  So IMO, there's alot going on we don't see and it could explain the odd behavior over the last year.  Just a thought.

[Azure]

I know this is going deeper than anyone wants to go but we have remember Phil is no longer with his wife for whatever reason. They've been married for 7-8 years and for a couple to break up then throw in that she had cancer as well is a lot on someones plate as just a regular guy. Throw in he's Mr. Olympia and everything that comes with that, and you see there's alot of stress involved. Phil's had a rough last 365 days.  It was this time a year ago after he won his 4th that he was giving us a speech about his wife.  So IMO, there's alot going on we don't see and it could explain the odd behavior over the last year.  Just a thought.

Nope you're 100% spot on. I am sure his wife did a lot for him even shallow stuff as as far as prep is concerned. I am going to take a guess here but I doubt this new chick a dee is doing half the stuff that poor Jennie was doing.  she was in charge. This chick looks lost so I know she's not helping him out and his behavior proves that. She's there for stress release

Honestly I told you if he wins again he will craxk. Someone else mentioned the words breakdown. You can talk he's off in more ways than one. I think the stress took a toll on his physique.

[SF1900]

It's a boring show otherwise and if they're talking about you have to knock out the such amp then the champ should be fired up. That's part of any good competition.

As we said before kai was one if the only ones who put an effort into his posing. This is entertainment and showmanship

Phil was tripping yesterday though. He has been acting weird for a while now. He was acting like he does in those videos
 

Yes, but a bodybuilding competition is not being judged about who is most fired up. Its about who has the best physique. If you have the best physique, then you should win, whether or not you're fired up. Another stupid thing that judges or other gurus say along with, "He has to pay his dues first" or "You have to knock out the champ." None of this shit means anything in reality. Just garbage spewed by the powers that be.

You can be a good poser and put effort into posing without "being fired up." I don't even know what that means "fired up." Does it mean screaming and yelling and pumping your first in the air? Again, another stupid thing spewed by lame ass judges and gurus. 

[Wiggs]

Nope you're 100% spot on. I am sure his wife did a lot for him even shallow stuff as as far as prep is concerned. I am going to take a guess here but I doubt this new chick a dee is doing half the stuff that poor Jennie was doing.  she was in charge. This chick looks lost so I know she's not helping him out and his behavior proves that. She's there for stress release

Honestly I told you if he wins again he will craxk. Someone else mentioned the words breakdown. You can talk he's off in more ways than one. I think the stress took a toll on his physique.

Just having her around is huge.  Think about this.  In 2007 when they got married, what was going on in bodybuilding and in Phil's life? No wait....Let's go back a little further.  When did he meet her?  (I don't know).  It was before Phil was Phil. So he had a woman that was down with his journey that more than likely was cooking shit tons of chicken breasts, rice and everything else that needs to be cooked and cleaned that comes with being a bodybuilder. She's doing all those little things to make your life easier as you're coming up.  Mailing DVD's and autographed photos for fans etc. As you get more famous she has to accept the swoons of females and males   that want to do whatever with Phil Heath. The crazy schedule, the crazy life.  More than likely not what she expected despite the niceties.

They have a soul tie.  Soul ties are real and you have one whenever you sleep with that person. It's biblical as well. My point is she's done everything on the come up with Phil and now for whatever reason, she's not. That will fuck with your head if you have any kind of heart.  And Phil does or at least I thought so.  Because there's no way in hell I'm letting a woman that came up with you go.  She's one person you need to trust to keep you honest and level headed. I couldn't fathom what happened between those two because it's none of my business BUT it's clearly affecting Phil and not something you'd want to share with the public so it's totally understandable. But there's no doubt in my mind this is what's going on with him.

[Azure]

Just having her around is huge.  Think about this.  In 2007 when they got married, what was going on in bodybuilding and in Phil's life? No wait....Let's go back a little further.  When did he meet her?  (I don't know).  It was before Phil was Phil. So he had a woman that was down with his journey that more than likely was cooking shit tons of chicken breasts, rice and everything else that needs to be cooked and cleaned that comes with being a bodybuilder. She's doing all those little things to make your life easier as you're coming up.  Mailing DVD's and autographed photos for fans etc. As you get more famous she has to accept the swoons of females and males   that want to do whatever with Phil Heath. The crazy schedule, the crazy life.  More than likely not what she expected despite the niceties.

They have a soul tie.  Soul ties are real and you have one whenever you sleep with that person. It's biblical as well. My point is she's done everything on the come up with Phil and now for whatever reason, she's not. That will fuck with your head if you have any kind of heart.  And Phil does or at least I thought so.  Because there's no way in hell I'm letting a woman that came up with you go.  She's one person you need to trust to keep you honest and level headed. I couldn't fathom what happened between those two because it's none of my business BUT it's clearly affecting Phil and not something you'd want to share with the public so it's totally understandable. But there's no doubt in my mind this is what's going on with him.

Brother you have nailed it. All of it. Soul ties included. Guilt will eat you alive and send you into torment. I see it. That's why I say he will crack sooner or later. He will receive his comeuppance sooner or later. It could start tonight

I continue to be impressed with the men on this board. Awesome

[OB1]

Just having her around is huge.  Think about this.  In 2007 when they got married, what was going on in bodybuilding and in Phil's life? No wait....Let's go back a little further.  When did he meet her?  (I don't know).  It was before Phil was Phil. So he had a woman that was down with his journey that more than likely was cooking shit tons of chicken breasts, rice and everything else that needs to be cooked and cleaned that comes with being a bodybuilder. She's doing all those little things to make your life easier as you're coming up.  Mailing DVD's and autographed photos for fans etc. As you get more famous she has to accept the swoons of females and males   that want to do whatever with Phil Heath. The crazy schedule, the crazy life.  More than likely not what she expected despite the niceties.

They have a soul tie.  Soul ties are real and you have one whenever you sleep with that person. It's biblical as well. My point is she's done everything on the come up with Phil and now for whatever reason, she's not. That will fuck with your head if you have any kind of heart.  And Phil does or at least I thought so.  Because there's no way in hell I'm letting a woman that came up with you go.  She's one person you need to trust to keep you honest and level headed. I couldn't fathom what happened between those two because it's none of my business BUT it's clearly affecting Phil and not something you'd want to share with the public so it's totally understandable. But there's no doubt in my mind this is what's going on with him.

OMG.
How romantic.
1. Never trust any woman.
2. Woman and truth is contradicting in itself.
3. Men don't need women. Real men at least. A man is better off without a woman.
4. Here is a "secret": Women need men.

[Azure]

Being fired up shouldnt count in the score. It just adds to the show. This show lacks luster this year