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VW Emissions Scandal
« on: September 22, 2015, 07:45:36 PM »
VW emissions scandal explained:

By Alistair Charlton
"VW manufactured and installed software in the electronic control module (ECM) of these vehicles that sensed when the vehicle was being tested for compliance with EPA emissions standards," the EPA wrote in a document sent to VW. Controlled by an automatic switch, the defeat device monitors the position of the steering wheel, vehicle speed, engine barometric pressure and how long the engine has been running for, among other variables, to work out when the vehicle is being tested.

The EPA added: "During emission testing, the vehicles' ECM ran software which produced compliant emission results under an ECM calibration that VW referred to as the 'dyno calibration'... at all other times during normal vehicle operation, the 'switch' was activated and the vehicle ECM software ran a separate 'road calibration' which reduces the effectiveness of the emission control system."

As a result of this simple switch from "dyno" to "road", emissions of NOx increased by a factor of between 10 and 40 times above EPA compliant levels, depending on how the car was driven.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vw-emissions-scandal-explained-this-how-volkswagen-alleged-have-cheated-1520698

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2015, 07:50:21 PM »
How Engineers at West Virginia University Caught VW Cheating
By Philip E. Ross
“Some people have mischaracterized what our role was,” says Dan Carder, interim director of the University of West Virginia’s Center for Alternative Fuels, Engines and Emissions (CAFEE). “Some have used the phrase ‘tipped off the EPA.’ But we were just working under contract.”

The contracting organization, a European non-profit, had wanted to convince European regulators to emulate strict U.S. standards for diesel emissions of nitrous oxides (NOX). So it asked CAFEE engineers to gather data from the field. They rented VW diesels, measured their tailpipe emissions on the road and compared them to measurements on the same cars made in the lab. The discrepancies were huge.

“We presented this in a public forum in San Diego, in the spring of 2014; we said, these are two vehicles; we’re presenting what we can present,” Carder says. “And EPA people were in the audience.” Meanwhile, the sponsoring group, called the International Council on Clean Transportation, published the results online as well.

The information was out there for more than a year. But the auto press missed its significance.

The EPA did not. It started testing with a vengence, going through all the necessary protocols before formally approaching Volkswagen. VW resisted for a while, then it admitted that it had deliberately cheated.

“What’s surprising to me was their total admission,”

http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/advanced-cars/how-professors-caught-vw-cheating

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2015, 08:13:10 PM »
So...
even more pollution by intent.
Not surprising.
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2015, 08:14:09 PM »

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2015, 08:24:36 PM »
VW and Audi said the 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine on the smaller cars was able to meet the emissions requirements without a urea injection system often referred to as "AdBlue".

I wonder why they decided to cheat rather than install a urea injection system.   ???


Tomorrow I'm going to walk up to the first environmental hipster I see, driving a Jetta TDI, and let them know their car is an environmental disaster polluting at 40 times the legal limit.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2015, 08:55:13 PM »
The question is WHO at VW actually approved this software installation, I'm thinking it's right from the TOP...

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2015, 08:58:45 PM »
I kind of like VW more because of this.

GM is facing a fine of nearly a billion for installing faulty ignitions, killing about 130. 

VW is facing a fines and fees of up to 18 billion for…delivering greater performance.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2015, 09:18:48 PM »
The question is WHO at VW actually approved this software installation, I'm thinking it's right from the TOP...

It's unlikely the CEO of VW will have his job on Friday.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2015, 10:27:59 PM »
Fuck yeah, I'm snapping up a bunch of their shares if it tanks anymore

God Bless the Nazis at the EPA for destroying millions of people's savings in the name of a negligible amount of virtually harmless 'greenhouse gas'

GM was a bailout company, obviously the rules are different for a nationalized Democrat industry - so what if they kill a few people? Don't you remember ACID RAIN, you monster?

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2015, 11:38:15 PM »
I kind of like VW more because of this.

GM is facing a fine of nearly a billion for installing faulty ignitions, killing about 130. 

VW is facing a fines and fees of up to 18 billion for…delivering greater performance.

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AND polluting from 10 to 40 times more than stated...

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2015, 01:21:54 AM »
I think it's great - awesome engineering.
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2015, 01:44:36 AM »
Behind every great fortune there is a crime.
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2015, 01:47:12 AM »
^^
AND polluting from 10 to 40 times more than stated...

What does that even mean?  How many dead or stricken with asthma?  Isn't the potential fine based on an abstraction?

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2015, 02:04:52 AM »
What does that even mean?  How many dead or stricken with asthma?  Isn't the potential fine based on an abstraction?
It's only known to be harmful to the state of California.

So if you're anywhere else consider yourself lucky. You dodged a bullet.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2015, 02:05:05 AM »
Emissions testing...more government bullshit.  Don't forget to recycle sheep. ;)
California heading the tinfoil hat brigade.  Little insignificant earthlings acting holier than thou.  As if we impact the world that much.  We will start a nuclear war much sooner than "global warming" will ever effect us.
Everyone trying to live until their 110.  Let it go. ;)
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2015, 02:22:00 AM »

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2015, 03:11:43 AM »
Good time to buy VW stock.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2015, 03:15:32 AM »
I gotta start looking at the VW sportscars.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2015, 03:33:34 AM »
could cost jobs. I know a few people who work at VW in Wolfsburg. They Drive together and swap over to save money as it´s a fair distance away. They earn good money though...

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2015, 03:57:45 AM »
Emissions testing...more government bullshit.  Don't forget to recycle sheep. ;)
California heading the tinfoil hat brigade.  Little insignificant earthlings acting holier than thou.  As if we impact the world that much.  We will start a nuclear war much sooner than "global warming" will ever effect us.
Everyone trying to live until their 110.  Let it go. ;)


Exxon already knew of Global warming in 1977....

http://gizmodo.com/exxon-scientists-knew-fossil-fuels-caused-climate-chang-1731707762

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2015, 04:00:46 AM »
Vorsprung Durch Software....

What will happen to the resale values?

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2015, 11:02:18 AM »
What a crazy thing.

The older new bugs were putting out a quart of oil every 1000 miles, and now this happens.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2015, 11:19:04 AM »
The CEO stepped down.  lol.  VW is a major powerhouse with Audi, Bughatti and other high end cars.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2015, 11:29:21 AM »
A German company cheating? Well I never..

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2015, 12:08:16 PM »
A German company cheating? Well I never..
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