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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2015, 12:16:38 PM »
I had a car follow me around for a while and even at work they sent a woman in to talk to me. i knew she was  verfassungsschutz and i trained her.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2015, 12:26:35 PM »
I am left in my Politics but not communist. I was in the celle Kreistag in 2006. I believe in fair rights for the working man.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #27 on: September 23, 2015, 12:49:42 PM »
It's only known to be harmful to the state of California.

So if you're anywhere else consider yourself lucky. You dodged a bullet.

Then I'm doomed!  I apologize for my glibness and I'll have my doc prescribe me some Advair.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2015, 08:02:14 PM »
By VW CEO Martin Winterkorn

"I am shocked by the events of the past few days. Above all, I am stunned that misconduct on such a scale was possible in the Volkswagen Group.

As CEO I accept responsibility for the irregularities that have been found in diesel engines and have therefore requested the Supervisory Board to agree on terminating my function as CEO of the Volkswagen Group. I am doing this in the interests of the company even though I am not aware of any wrong doing on my part.

Volkswagen needs a fresh start – also in terms of personnel. I am clearing the way for this fresh start with my resignation.

I have always been driven by my desire to serve this company, especially our customers and employees. Volkswagen has been, is and will always be my life.

The process of clarification and transparency must continue. This is the only way to win back trust. I am convinced that the Volkswagen Group and its team will overcome this grave crisis."

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2015, 08:18:14 PM »
By VW CEO Martin Winterkorn

"I am shocked by the events of the past few days. Above all, I am stunned that misconduct on such a scale was possible in the Volkswagen Group.

As CEO I accept responsibility for the irregularities that have been found in diesel engines and have therefore requested the Supervisory Board to agree on terminating my function as CEO of the Volkswagen Group. I am doing this in the interests of the company even though I am not aware of any wrong doing on my part.

Volkswagen needs a fresh start – also in terms of personnel. I am clearing the way for this fresh start with my resignation.

I have always been driven by my desire to serve this company, especially our customers and employees. Volkswagen has been, is and will always be my life.

The process of clarification and transparency must continue. This is the only way to win back trust. I am convinced that the Volkswagen Group and its team will overcome this grave crisis."

Shocked? Before he became CEO, he was head of R&D correct?
And it ain't just VW that is cheating.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2015, 10:44:45 PM »
And it ain't just VW that is cheating.

Correct.
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2015, 07:26:17 AM »
VW and Audi said the 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine on the smaller cars was able to meet the emissions requirements without a urea injection system often referred to as "AdBlue".

I wonder why they decided to cheat rather than install a urea injection system.   ???


Tomorrow I'm going to walk up to the first environmental hipster I see, driving a Jetta TDI, and let them know their car is an environmental disaster polluting at 40 times the legal limit.

because they couldnt get it to work. so they cheated the system

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2015, 08:20:32 AM »
All this bullshit about clean burning Diesel cars etc... was all just bullshit.  Hahahaha.  fucking lemmings.  Wonder how many hipsters have put their Diesel VW on craigslist after this story leaked.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2015, 09:00:28 AM »
Correct.
Everything is one big lie.

Now Audi R&D head Ulrich Hackenberg, and Porsche heads of engines, Wolfgang Hatz, among other top VAG execs may be dismissed as well.
And apparently BMW is coming under fire as well.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2015, 01:32:24 PM »
I wish I were a true getbig CEO so I could afford more than $5000 of shares. Now hopefully in a year they're back to 254 and I can buy a new Audi with the profit  ;D

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #35 on: September 25, 2015, 12:39:40 AM »
This is a bigger European story than it is United States…Europe has many more diesel cars of various makes than the US…There are some 400,000 year 2009 and later diesel Volkswagens in the ‘States…There are 10 million in Europe.  Thusly, Europe’s smog is more heavily influenced by the diesel engine’s emissions (nitrous oxides) than here in the US.
  
Diesels are hard to make to run clean compared to gasoline engines.  

General Motors has been tearing their hair out trying figure out how to make a clean automobile (as opposed to a big semi-truck tractor) diesel engine…They solved the soot, they solved the smell…but the nitrous oxides kept kicking them in the ass.  

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #36 on: September 25, 2015, 12:43:41 AM »
Your car performs better and still passes the emissions test.

I will be looking at offers on VWs later thgis month,

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #37 on: September 25, 2015, 03:46:45 AM »
Your car performs better and still passes the emissions test.

I will be looking at offers on VWs later thgis month,

If you want something fun to drive…I would recommend a naturally aspirated V6 GTI.  The last year with that engine was 2003.  I have a 2003 silver gray VR6 GTI with 6 speed shift, with leather interior.  I drove it until I made the mistake of driving it with a bad water pump and I think warped the head…It had 250,000 miles after 12 years.  I have it in the corner and when I get out of the hole financial wise I am going to drop a short block into it.

It was so much fun to drive and was so comfortable.  I call her Grimgerde…




I moved when I saw that it was a handicapped spot.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #38 on: September 25, 2015, 12:13:18 PM »
I moved when I saw that it was a handicapped spot.

Why?
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #39 on: September 25, 2015, 01:53:29 PM »
If you want something fun to drive…I would recommend a naturally aspirated V6 GTI.  The last year with that engine was 2003.  I have a 2003 silver gray VR6 GTI with 6 speed shift, with leather interior.  I drove it until I made the mistake of driving it with a bad water pump and I think warped the head…It had 250,000 miles after 12 years.  I have it in the corner and when I get out of the hole financial wise I am going to drop a short block into it.

It was so much fun to drive and was so comfortable.  I call her Grimgerde…




I moved when I saw that it was a handicapped spot.
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2015, 02:24:52 PM »
Anyone who thinks breathing in this shit is no big deal either has never lived in an area where smog is brutal or has never traveled to a place with smog is brutal...




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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #41 on: September 25, 2015, 05:17:33 PM »
If you want something fun to drive…I would recommend a naturally aspirated V6 GTI.  The last year with that engine was 2003.  I have a 2003 silver gray VR6 GTI with 6 speed shift, with leather interior.  I drove it until I made the mistake of driving it with a bad water pump and I think warped the head…It had 250,000 miles after 12 years.  I have it in the corner and when I get out of the hole financial wise I am going to drop a short block into it.

It was so much fun to drive and was so comfortable.  I call her Grimgerde…




I moved when I saw that it was a handicapped spot.

Nice ride.  One of my favorite VWs.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2015, 09:22:43 AM »

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2015, 09:53:07 AM »
Looks like Kevin De Bruyne got out just in time.   :'(

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #45 on: October 14, 2015, 02:39:06 PM »
By: Brandon Turkus

You know how the Volkswagen diesel scandal is very, very, very bad? Well, if a report from Germany's Der Spiegel is true, it's about to get a lot worse.

Throughout the entire affair, VW has maintained that it was a small, isolated group behind the so-called defeat devices. Der Spiegel, though, claims that at least 30 managers knew what was going on and that dozens will be suspended for their role in the scandal. The story cites both an external probe ordered by VW and conducted by US law firm Jones Day as well as the company's own preliminary findings.

This report flies directly in the face of what Volkswagen of America CEO Michael Horn, shown above, said in his sworn testimony to congress last week. Horn straight up said that the scandal "was something individuals did," blaming a sort of rogue group of software engineers (although he also acknowledged such an argument was hard to swallow). If it's proven that he was among the 30 employees involved, or he can be otherwise connected, the embattled exec could be in big trouble.

According to the Der Speigel story, a VW spokesperson said, "The number is without foundation."

Der Spiegel also cited a VW engineer, who said that any diesel engine, like the EA188, EA189, and EA288, that could get by without pricey emissions controls should "have [made] any engine developers leery."

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/10/14/30-vw-managers-knew-emissions-cheat/

Sounds like more people were involved than originally thought.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #46 on: October 14, 2015, 03:23:11 PM »
A big conspiracy, no matter how you look at it!

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #47 on: October 14, 2015, 05:48:06 PM »
Has anyone considered that the U.S. emissions standards are excessive?  The left wing marxists that populate the EPA want to make standards so tough that cars will become so expensive and people won't be able to afford them, thus moving to either public transportation or (impractical) green technology such as electric (which really isn't all that green, except on the surface).

The EPA needs to be abolished and let the car companies go back to building cars without bureaucratic government interference.  The free market and public demand will bring about standards that work for everyone.

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #48 on: October 14, 2015, 06:28:01 PM »
It makes me wonder if other companies are able to meet Cali's emissions regulations.

Also what's the deal if you have an older vehicle that was compliant back when but doesn't meet modern standards?  Is it grandfathered in or do half the cars on the road become illegal every time they tighten emissions laws?

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Re: VW Emissions Scandal
« Reply #49 on: October 14, 2015, 08:34:09 PM »
It makes me wonder if other companies are able to meet Cali's emissions regulations.

Also what's the deal if you have an older vehicle that was compliant back when but doesn't meet modern standards?  Is it grandfathered in or do half the cars on the road become illegal every time they tighten emissions laws?

Cali tough.  Cars must have all original emission equipment.  NO mods.  Only cars 1975 down exempt.  Heavy pressure to change even that exemption, with very little resistance to meet (classic car collectors, more or less).

Specs will change as a car ages, but nowhere within reality of matter.  Almost no 80s, 90s cars around Cali in most counties.  They can't pass, usually because of rings and/or v.gs or because they've been so far removed from original state.