Gunther and company looking HUGE today!

[Stavios]

Even if all their life they have been using HCG and Clomid with their cycle ?

[brianX]

"Johnny Apollo" and "analcandy" are both True Adonis.

[analcandy]

"Johnny Apollo" and "analcandy" are both True Adonis.

i'm no johny homo or true anus, sorry.

[brianX]

I like how Adonis pretends to argue with himself. Truly a sick individual.

[brianX]

I also like how they both registered within two days of each other, and have the exact same writing style.

[analcandy]

I also like how they both registered within two days of each other, and have the exact same writing style.

holy shit dude, you watch too much tv.

[Johnny Apollo]

FUCKING RETARD, "PROS" NEVER STOPS STEROIDS COMPLETELY, they are always on a maintenance dose while "off", these guys are lifetime juicers, if they stop taking steroids their test level is just shot down.

Even guys like lou ferrigno in their 50 and a lot of others pros like labrada gaspari yates flex etc are STILL ont it because they simply cant stop cause their body wouldnt be able to take it.

And you wonder why even suposedly "off" they are larger than any natural? thats because they just lowered their intakes fucking smartass, not because they are "genetically gifted" damn stupid gay worshipper.

Talk about being ignorant...

You know nothing about Anabolic Steroids or the Endocrine system. If the Pro's used a "Never ending cycle" they would kneel over and die. Pro's are....PRO's. Most of them know what they are doing when it comes to anabolic steroids. Anyone who knows anything about Anabolic Steroids knows that you "Cycle" them. Meaning you use them for about 12-16 weeks and then stop using to give your organs a break.
If the Pro's were using them year round on never ending cycles Pro's would be dropping dead like flies. That kind of pressure on the liver would kill them.

Secondly Do you even know what PCT is? I doubt it so i'll explain. PCT AKA "Post cycle Therapy" is when you stop using the anabolic steroids you use another drug while coming off of the steroids to jumpstart your natural testosterone production. When you go on a Steroid cycle your body shuts down natural testosterone levels because the test levels are too high(The body likes a balanced hormone system and this is called homeostasis). Since the Body shuts down it's natural testosterone production suddenly ending Steroid use would cause the Body to have to function on Low Testosterone Levels. This would cause loss of muscle and mood changes but it would NOT cause them to die.

Anyone who knows anything about Steroids (And the Pro's obviously do this or else they would not be able to keep such mass after a steroid cycle) knows that you have to during your cycle or right before you end it(Depending on your estrogen levels) start "PCT" post cycle therapy. There are two basic types of drugs used to prevent excess estrogen levels in the Body and to jumpstart the natural test levels. There are "SERM's" Selective estrogen receptor modulators and there are aromatase inhibitors. SERM's selectivly modulate estrogen receptors(Hence the name) meaning they change specific estrogen receptors so that estrogen molecules can't attach to them and do their work. There are also aromatase inhibitors, Aromatase is a gene that regulats the conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen.(Test naturally converts to estrogen). When you take Aromatase inhibitors it blocks the gene that does this thus prevening the Testosterone in your body from converting to the Female Hormone Estrogen(Which is bad for bodybuilders).


So this is your free Chemistry/Endocrinology lesson. I doubt you'd even comprehend what i'm saying though...So I probably wasted my time typing that up. So let me put it a bit simpler....

OWNED

[Johnny Apollo]

BrianX is infatuated with Adonis. He thinks everyone is Adonis.

[analcandy]

You know nothing about Anabolic Steroids or the Endocrine system. If the Pro's used a "Never ending cycle" they would kneel over and die. Pro's are....PRO's. Most of them know what they are doing when it comes to anabolic steroids. Anyone who knows anything about Anabolic Steroids knows that you "Cycle" them. Meaning you use them for about 12-16 weeks and then stop using to give your organs a break.
If the Pro's were using them year round on never ending cycles Pro's would be dropping dead like flies. That kind of pressure on the liver would kill them.

Secondly Do you even know what PCT is? I doubt it so i'll explain. PCT AKA "Post cycle Therapy" is when you stop using the anabolic steroids you use another drug while coming off of the steroids to jumpstart your natural testosterone production. When you go on a Steroid cycle your body shuts down natural testosterone levels because the test levels are too high(The body likes a balanced hormone system and this is called homeostasis). Since the Body shuts down it's natural testosterone production suddenly ending Steroid use would cause the Body to have to function on Low Testosterone Levels. This would cause loss of muscle and mood changes but it would NOT cause them to die.

Anyone who knows anything about Steroids (And the Pro's obviously do this or else they would not be able to keep such mass after a steroid cycle) knows that you have to during your cycle or right before you end it(Depending on your estrogen levels) start "PCT" post cycle therapy. There are two basic types of drugs used to prevent excess estrogen levels in the Body and to jumpstart the natural test levels. There are "SERM's" Selective estrogen receptor modulators and there are aromatase inhibitors. SERM's selectivly modulate estrogen receptors(Hence the name) meaning they change specific estrogen receptors so that estrogen molecules can't attach to them and do their work. There are also aromatase inhibitors, Aromatase is a gene that regulats the conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen.(Test naturally converts to estrogen). When you take Aromatase inhibitors it blocks the gene that does this thus prevening the Testosterone in your body from converting to the Female Hormone Estrogen(Which is bad for bodybuilders).


So this is your free Chemistry/Endocrinology lesson. I doubt you'd even comprehend what i'm saying though...So I probably wasted my time typing that up.

meltdown.

Lot of gurus /doctor science wanabees on the internet.

[Johnny Apollo]

meltdown.

Lot of gurus /doctor science wanabees on the internet.

You dumbfuck..."Meltdown" is the only comeback you have to my massive OWNING of you? Haha


Unless you can address everything I posted and refute it...Don't call me a "wannabe" you moron.

It's obvious you don't have a clue what the fuck you're talking about,Otherwise you could address my posts intelligently.

This is the 2nd owning of you from me. The last one was about the "Supposed" side effects of Anabolic Steroids where I called you out and you ran away. You're doing it again here.

[analcandy]

You dumbfuck..."Meltdown" is the only comeback you have to my massive OWNING of you? Haha


Unless you can address everything I posted and refute it...Don't call me a "wannabe" you moron.

It's obvious you don't have a clue what the f**k you're talking about,Otherwise you could address my posts intelligently.

This is the 2nd owning of you from me. The last one was about the "Supposed" side effects of Anabolic Steroids where I called you out and you ran away. You're doing it again here.

yeah oooookaaay  whatever


oh brother, i can imagine you dancing in your student room,hurling "OOOOOOWNEDDD AHAHA I OwNED HIM so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad !  damn im god" boucing your skinny little pre teen body on the walls....





basically pros are pros because they are always on the juice, because they have synthol injections done by surgeons, and because they have no life and rely on other people to earn money and buy their drugs.

Whatever you says, thats a fact, there s nothing about genetics or "hard work", it's all about fucking amount of drugs they inject and the incapacity of doing something else of their life.

Now keep your cut & pastes bullshits for you, who fucking cares.

Do you think some of your heroes will give you a medal for worshiping/defending em or justifying their acts on the internet?

Get a life homo.

[Johnny Apollo]

basically pros are pros because they are always on the juice, because they have synthol injections done by surgeons, and because they have no life and rely on other people to earn money and buy their drugs.

1.I've already refuted them being on AAS year round.

2.Why would they have a surgeon inject them with Synthol? Do you even know what Synthol is?

3.They have no life? Who the fuck are you to say they have no life? Coleman,Cutler..These people are millionairs. They make tons of money. Do what they love. THAT is their life.

Whatever you says, thats a fact, there s nothing about genetics or "hard work", it's all about fucking amount of drugs they inject and the incapacity of doing something else of their life.

If it's nothing but AAS then why is it that everyone who does AAS isn't a pro bodybuilder? Why isn't the joeblow in the gym down the street who injects 5 time as much as any Pro does a pro?

Your reasoning makes no sense.

Now keep your cut & pastes bullshits for you, who fucking cares.

I never cut and paste anything. If you accuse me of cutting and pasting then provide the source of it. Everything I type is directly from me.

Don't make claims you can't back up fucktwit.

[alexxx]

No no Captain Apollo cannot be Adonis or else he contradicts himself. Brianx and AnalyRaped I can believe are true adonis because they are so freaking stupid.

[gibberj2]

IDIOTS!!! Stop making fun of pro's... Oooh look so and so's arms look 19 inches. gimme a break.

[slippediskmountian]

http://media.putfile.com/shereen

[GMCtrk]

You know nothing about Anabolic Steroids or the Endocrine system. If the Pro's used a "Never ending cycle" they would kneel over and die. Pro's are....PRO's. Most of them know what they are doing when it comes to anabolic steroids. Anyone who knows anything about Anabolic Steroids knows that you "Cycle" them. Meaning you use them for about 12-16 weeks and then stop using to give your organs a break.
If the Pro's were using them year round on never ending cycles Pro's would be dropping dead like flies. That kind of pressure on the liver would kill them.

Secondly Do you even know what PCT is? I doubt it so i'll explain. PCT AKA "Post cycle Therapy" is when you stop using the anabolic steroids you use another drug while coming off of the steroids to jumpstart your natural testosterone production. When you go on a Steroid cycle your body shuts down natural testosterone levels because the test levels are too high(The body likes a balanced hormone system and this is called homeostasis). Since the Body shuts down it's natural testosterone production suddenly ending Steroid use would cause the Body to have to function on Low Testosterone Levels. This would cause loss of muscle and mood changes but it would NOT cause them to die.

Anyone who knows anything about Steroids (And the Pro's obviously do this or else they would not be able to keep such mass after a steroid cycle) knows that you have to during your cycle or right before you end it(Depending on your estrogen levels) start "PCT" post cycle therapy. There are two basic types of drugs used to prevent excess estrogen levels in the Body and to jumpstart the natural test levels. There are "SERM's" Selective estrogen receptor modulators and there are aromatase inhibitors. SERM's selectivly modulate estrogen receptors(Hence the name) meaning they change specific estrogen receptors so that estrogen molecules can't attach to them and do their work. There are also aromatase inhibitors, Aromatase is a gene that regulats the conversion of Testosterone to Estrogen.(Test naturally converts to estrogen). When you take Aromatase inhibitors it blocks the gene that does this thus prevening the Testosterone in your body from converting to the Female Hormone Estrogen(Which is bad for bodybuilders).


So this is your free Chemistry/Endocrinology lesson. I doubt you'd even comprehend what i'm saying though...So I probably wasted my time typing that up. So let me put it a bit simpler....

OWNED

Johhny, this is all correct for the average steroid user, and maybe some of the smaller pros. But top tier pros NEVER come off, if they did they would lose way too much size and never be able to regain it.

[phyxsius]

I think Adonis is jealous because Gunther can get better looking girls than he can.

ROFL

[Johnny Apollo]

No no Captain Apollo cannot be Adonis or else he contradicts himself. Brianx and AnalyRaped I can believe are true adonis because they are so freaking stupid.

I never contradict myself. If you claim I do..Point it out. Otherwise STFU.

[Johnny Apollo]

Johhny, this is all correct for the average steroid user, and maybe some of the smaller pros. But top tier pros NEVER come off, if they did they would lose way too much size and never be able to regain it.

Wrong....Talk to Any Pro who is open about their steroid use and they will tell you that the amount they use is average. The people claiming they use extreme doses of steroids are the people who have used steroids and didn't gain much weight so they conclude the pro's must use excessive amounts to get their size...

In reality the Pro's train their ass off and have great genetics plus they use AAS. In reality the Pro's who use excessive amounts are the one's who never place very well. The ones you would not expect. Most Low Teir NPC competitors use 5 times as much as Top level professionals do. Most 230lb Joe Blow's training in the Gym down the street use 10 times as much as TOp level Pro's do and still look like crap.

Spend some time on an Anabolic Steroid board. Some people post some incredible doses that they use and extreme cycles and then post their pictures and you wouldn't even think they were using steroids..Just normal flabby guys with a few pounds of muscle added.


If you used these substances year round...Your liver would give out within a few years. The fact that we don't see pro's dying left and right is proof they don't use extreme doses. Ronnie Coleman is in his Mid 40's...There is no way he would of lived to that age on a year round cycle for over 10 years...Not Possible. Your liver toxicity levels would be off the charts if you tried to go on a year round cycle,Espically with excessive doses and stacking.

[alexxx]

I never contradict myself. If you claim I do..Point it out. Otherwise STFU.

Learn to read, peabrain! I said if you realy are True Anus then you wouldn't be supporting steroids. Unless you are saying that you really are Adonis.

[Captain Equipoise]

I've talked to 4 pro's openly about cycles and their usage, most recently on Sat. night at an after hours club...
most of them say more or less the same thing, 2,000-4,000mg of test a week + whatever else (50mg winny ED for ex.)
I think the obvious thing most here are missing is that these guys for the most part don't work, and if they do then it's cushy and lax jobs like personal training or nutritoin advice, etc. which means when they're not lifting they can eat the whole day.

The one piece of advice I did get from all the pro's (all on seperate occasion and places) was that you need more then 1,200mg's of test a week to grow, that was pretty much said by all.

[rocket]

I don't really know where this discussion has been going but in case this has not been said already, remember gunter looked very small before last years olympia and came in pretty damn good shape.  So whatever he's doing who gives a shit, its obviously working for him and probably a whole lot safer too.  Guys like levrone, ronnie, gunter and (perhaps) jay seem to realise the benefit of being clean for most of the year.  Noone was more phenomenal than levrone though for coming up.

[Van_Bilderass]

Wrong....Talk to Any Pro who is open about their steroid use and they will tell you that the amount they use is average. The people claiming they use extreme doses of steroids are the people who have used steroids and didn't gain much weight so they conclude the pro's must use excessive amounts to get their size...

In reality the Pro's train their ass off and have great genetics plus they use AAS. In reality the Pro's who use excessive amounts are the one's who never place very well. The ones you would not expect. Most Low Teir NPC competitors use 5 times as much as Top level professionals do. Most 230lb Joe Blow's training in the Gym down the street use 10 times as much as TOp level Pro's do and still look like crap.

Spend some time on an Anabolic Steroid board. Some people post some incredible doses that they use and extreme cycles and then post their pictures and you wouldn't even think they were using steroids..Just normal flabby guys with a few pounds of muscle added.


If you used these substances year round...Your liver would give out within a few years. The fact that we don't see pro's dying left and right is proof they don't use extreme doses. Ronnie Coleman is in his Mid 40's...There is no way he would of lived to that age on a year round cycle for over 10 years...Not Possible. Your liver toxicity levels would be off the charts if you tried to go on a year round cycle,Espically with excessive doses and stacking.

You know jack shit about steroids. Testosterone is not toxic and there are a lot of people who have been on for several decades and are still healthy. Orals can be toxic but I know guys who have cycled heavy doses of orals for a decade and their livers are fine. Get a clue. 

[Da Freak]

dorian

[Earl1972]

dorian

his shoulders are still 3 times the size of the average man's and if he had his shirt off I bet most in here would be surprised how muscular he would look

he's alot bigger than the guy next to him who probably think he's a muscular guy even though he has a double chin

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