6-unanswered-questions-about-ahmed-mohameds clock

[headhuntersix]

Dissapointed by all you libs not defending clock boy more......or is it your not as fucking insane as the rest of the lib douchbag press.

Last week, 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed brought what he said was a clock to school. It was a clock, but it inside a briefcase, and it was just parts from a commercially-available clock that the youngster dismantled and reassembled. The teacher thought that it looked a little bit like a timing device for a bomb, so she sent him to the principal’s office where the police took him into custody.......


1. Why did Ahmed claim to build the clock if he didn’t actually build it?
 
From the beginning we’ve been told that Ahmed—a supposedly creative, clever, inventive young man—threw the clock together from parts in his bedroom in order to “impress” his teachers at school. Ahmed told Chris Hayes he put it together himself. He told the Dallas Morning News that he “made a clock,” elsewhere claimed “I’m the person who built a clock and got in trouble with it,” and claimed that the clock was “[his] invention.”

 
As it turns out, it’s almost certain he did no such thing. All the evidence points toward the conclusion that Ahmed didn’t build his clock at all, and instead just took apart an old digital clock and put the guts inside a pencil case. If this is true—and it almost certainly is—why did he claim he “built” such a device?

 
Photographs and videos of his workshop have shown a bench scattered with circuit boards, wires, and other electronic devices. If Ahmed is used to working in such conditions and with the guts and pieces of such technology, he should know the difference between “building” a clock and not building one. So what led him to claim he built something that, for all appearances, he didn’t?

 
2. At what point was the clock actually built?

From the first report of Ahmed’s arrest, we learn the boy threw the clock together “in about 20 minutes before bedtime on Sunday.” He subsequently took it to school the following Monday morning, at which point it was confiscated. He thus had the clock in his possession for around 12 hours, give or take.

 
Elsewhere, however, his father claimed that Ahmed “wakes up with [the alarm clock] most mornings.” This simply cannot be true: Ahmed allegedly only had the alarm clock for one morning. Perhaps the explanation is that Ahmed used to wake up with the original alarm clock before he disassembled it and put it in the pencil case, and his father was simply not speaking clearly. Pretty satisfactory explanation, right?

 
Not so fast. On MSNBC with Chris Hayes, Ahmed claimed to have “bought [the clock’s] parts and put it together in [his] room.” These stories do not jibe. At what point did Ahmed build the clock—and if he built it before the Sunday night in question, why did he lie about it?

 
3. Why did the clock go off during his English class?
 
When Ahmed showed the clock to one teacher, that teacher said he should not show it to anyone else (the teacher apparently thought it looked suspicious). One assumes he intended to follow that order and keep quiet about the clock for the rest of the day—but, according to NBC News, “the clock’s alarm went off during [another] class,” annoying another teacher and leading Ahmed to show her the clock after class in order to explain himself (this teacher subsequently reported him, which led to his arrest).

 
So the alarm went off and the teacher heard it. That’s a suitable pretext for showing her the clock, but it’s also—when you stop to think about it—really quite odd. Why was the alarm ringing in the middle of the class? Did Ahmed program it to ring while he was in the classroom? If so, why?

 
There might be and probably is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why the alarm went off. But all the reports I’ve read just claim the alarm “went off.” Alarm clocks don’t just go off: they are programmed to go off (clocks generally don’t just arbitrarily ring on their own; otherwise they’d wake people up all night long). Has anyone asked Ahmed why the clock was programmed to ring during his English class?

 
4. To what extent has Ahmed’s sister, Eyman, been involved in the whole affair?
 
We know from a Daily Beast report that Ahmed’s sister, Eyman, was suspended in middle school due to “this girl saying [Eyman] wanted to blow up the school.” She appears to still be fairly bitter about it, even all these years later, which is sort of understandable. She and Ahmed’s other sister created the @IStandWithAhmed Twitter account a couple of days after Ahmed was arrested.

 
But there is evidence Eyman has taken an even more proactive role in the whole affair. Mark Cuban claimed to have spoken with Ahmed on the phone and said his sister was “over his shoulder, you could hear, listening to the question, giving him the answer.” Ahmed is still a young man, but he is not a toddler, and is surely capable of answering questions. Why would Eyman feel it was necessary to instruct Ahmed on what to say? Has she played a larger role in this controversy then we’ve already seen?

 
5. Why did Ahmed assume the clock would look ‘suspicious’ or ‘like a threat’?
 
Ahmed claims that he used a cable to close the pencil case because he didn’t “want to make it seem like a threat” or “suspicious.” Why did he assume it would look that way? Did he believe it was suspicious-looking when he built it, and if so, why did he take it to school with him?

 
6. Why is the Mohamed family blocking the release of important records?
 
Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne revealed this week that the Mohamed family is refusing to release records that could exonerate the police officers who handled Ahmed’s arrest. Both the Irving School District and the Irving Police Department have asked for the records to be released, but to no avail. Why would the Mohamed family feel it necessary to prevent such records from being released to the public?

 
All of these questions may have perfectly reasonable and unsurprising answers. But before we can get the answers, the media must ask the questions. Before this incident goes any further, members of the press should be asking the Mohamed family to clear up these uncertain and confusing gaps in the story.

[headhuntersix]

Pretty bad when Bill Maher, chris Mathews and me all agree this kid is full of shit. To bad they didn't get tickets to the "Holy Stampede" in Mecca.


And more food for thought from the folks at thisainthell.com

The case into which the clock appears to have been installed looks to be about 9” x 6” x 2”, more or less.
 
•  The clock’s working parts take up very little of the case’s interior space; virtually all of the interior of the case remains free.
 
•  An M18A1 Claymore Mine is approximately 8.5” x 5.5” x 1.5”; it weighs about 3.5 pounds.
 
•  The parts of a Claymore that “make bang/dead” only occupy somewhere around half of a Claymore’s total volume, give or take.  The rest of that 8.5″ x 5.5″ x 1.5″ volume is taken up by the Claymore’s case, sight, and the case’s curvature.
 
•  The equivalent of that “make bang/dead” part of a Claymore will easily fit within half of the case in which the lad mounted the Radio Shack clock parts, leaving the rest of the space inside unused.
 
•  Add a couple of other things – which I won’t list here, but which terrorists know quite well – and you essentially have a home-brewed Claymore with integral timer/detonator.
 
•  Those “couple of other things” will easily fit into the unused volume in that pencil case after the clock and “makes bang/dead” parts are installed.
 
•  The total package would weigh maybe 5 pounds – probably less.
 
Bottom line:  this kid’s “science project” is about 1/3 of what’s needed for a homemade and quite deadly little time bomb.  The other things needed are well-known to terrorists.  The fabrication required to finish the job is decidedly low-tech, not particularly difficult, and wouldn’t take very long.  And with the clock side towards a wall or otherwise hidden, it would also appear innocuous enough that wouldn’t be all that hard to hide it in plain sight.
 
Yeah, maybe this was all innocuous and innocent.  But the possibility exists it wasn’t completely innocent, either.  Hell, the kid could have been duped into making it and taking it to school by someone else

[avxo]

LOL at "third of a time bomb"... Have you considered calling the FBI or the ATF to tip them off to the Idahoans and the one-stop-terrorist-shop known as Amazon?

[Dos Equis]

Dissapointed by all you libs not defending clock boy more......or is it your not as fucking insane as the rest of the lib douchbag press.

Last week, 14-year-old Ahmed Mohamed brought what he said was a clock to school. It was a clock, but it inside a briefcase, and it was just parts from a commercially-available clock that the youngster dismantled and reassembled. The teacher thought that it looked a little bit like a timing device for a bomb, so she sent him to the principal’s office where the police took him into custody.......


1. Why did Ahmed claim to build the clock if he didn’t actually build it?
 
From the beginning we’ve been told that Ahmed—a supposedly creative, clever, inventive young man—threw the clock together from parts in his bedroom in order to “impress” his teachers at school. Ahmed told Chris Hayes he put it together himself. He told the Dallas Morning News that he “made a clock,” elsewhere claimed “I’m the person who built a clock and got in trouble with it,” and claimed that the clock was “[his] invention.”

 
As it turns out, it’s almost certain he did no such thing. All the evidence points toward the conclusion that Ahmed didn’t build his clock at all, and instead just took apart an old digital clock and put the guts inside a pencil case. If this is true—and it almost certainly is—why did he claim he “built” such a device?

 
Photographs and videos of his workshop have shown a bench scattered with circuit boards, wires, and other electronic devices. If Ahmed is used to working in such conditions and with the guts and pieces of such technology, he should know the difference between “building” a clock and not building one. So what led him to claim he built something that, for all appearances, he didn’t?

 
2. At what point was the clock actually built?

From the first report of Ahmed’s arrest, we learn the boy threw the clock together “in about 20 minutes before bedtime on Sunday.” He subsequently took it to school the following Monday morning, at which point it was confiscated. He thus had the clock in his possession for around 12 hours, give or take.

 
Elsewhere, however, his father claimed that Ahmed “wakes up with [the alarm clock] most mornings.” This simply cannot be true: Ahmed allegedly only had the alarm clock for one morning. Perhaps the explanation is that Ahmed used to wake up with the original alarm clock before he disassembled it and put it in the pencil case, and his father was simply not speaking clearly. Pretty satisfactory explanation, right?

 
Not so fast. On MSNBC with Chris Hayes, Ahmed claimed to have “bought [the clock’s] parts and put it together in [his] room.” These stories do not jibe. At what point did Ahmed build the clock—and if he built it before the Sunday night in question, why did he lie about it?

 
3. Why did the clock go off during his English class?
 
When Ahmed showed the clock to one teacher, that teacher said he should not show it to anyone else (the teacher apparently thought it looked suspicious). One assumes he intended to follow that order and keep quiet about the clock for the rest of the day—but, according to NBC News, “the clock’s alarm went off during [another] class,” annoying another teacher and leading Ahmed to show her the clock after class in order to explain himself (this teacher subsequently reported him, which led to his arrest).

 
So the alarm went off and the teacher heard it. That’s a suitable pretext for showing her the clock, but it’s also—when you stop to think about it—really quite odd. Why was the alarm ringing in the middle of the class? Did Ahmed program it to ring while he was in the classroom? If so, why?

 
There might be and probably is a perfectly reasonable explanation for why the alarm went off. But all the reports I’ve read just claim the alarm “went off.” Alarm clocks don’t just go off: they are programmed to go off (clocks generally don’t just arbitrarily ring on their own; otherwise they’d wake people up all night long). Has anyone asked Ahmed why the clock was programmed to ring during his English class?

 
4. To what extent has Ahmed’s sister, Eyman, been involved in the whole affair?
 
We know from a Daily Beast report that Ahmed’s sister, Eyman, was suspended in middle school due to “this girl saying [Eyman] wanted to blow up the school.” She appears to still be fairly bitter about it, even all these years later, which is sort of understandable. She and Ahmed’s other sister created the @IStandWithAhmed Twitter account a couple of days after Ahmed was arrested.

 
But there is evidence Eyman has taken an even more proactive role in the whole affair. Mark Cuban claimed to have spoken with Ahmed on the phone and said his sister was “over his shoulder, you could hear, listening to the question, giving him the answer.” Ahmed is still a young man, but he is not a toddler, and is surely capable of answering questions. Why would Eyman feel it was necessary to instruct Ahmed on what to say? Has she played a larger role in this controversy then we’ve already seen?

 
5. Why did Ahmed assume the clock would look ‘suspicious’ or ‘like a threat’?
 
Ahmed claims that he used a cable to close the pencil case because he didn’t “want to make it seem like a threat” or “suspicious.” Why did he assume it would look that way? Did he believe it was suspicious-looking when he built it, and if so, why did he take it to school with him?

 
6. Why is the Mohamed family blocking the release of important records?
 
Irving Mayor Beth Van Duyne revealed this week that the Mohamed family is refusing to release records that could exonerate the police officers who handled Ahmed’s arrest. Both the Irving School District and the Irving Police Department have asked for the records to be released, but to no avail. Why would the Mohamed family feel it necessary to prevent such records from being released to the public?

 
All of these questions may have perfectly reasonable and unsurprising answers. But before we can get the answers, the media must ask the questions. Before this incident goes any further, members of the press should be asking the Mohamed family to clear up these uncertain and confusing gaps in the story.

Interesting.  I have not been following this.  Would not surprise me that people tripped all over themselves to mistakenly lionize another kid. 

[240 is Back]

Interesting.  I have not been following this.  Would not surprise me that people tripped all over themselves to mistakenly demonize another kid. 

Oh, FOX news radio has been doing that all week.   

Granted, the kid is an idiot.

[headhuntersix]

LOL at "third of a time bomb"... Have you considered calling the FBI or the ATF to tip them off to the Idahoans and the one-stop-terrorist-shop known as Amazon?

Writing you off as another naïve retard.

[avxo]

Writing you off as another naïve retard.

Why? How is that Amazon kit not a "third of a time bomb"? It's got a clock, it's got wires, and a carrier for the potatoes. How's the spud-clock in the picture I posted not a "third of a time bomb"? What's the salient difference that makes one a "third of a time bomb" and the other not? Why would the spud-clock not trigger suspicion? Are you implying that explosives won't go boom in the presence of a delicious, starchy potato? What if the potato is cooked? What if I replaced the potato with a 9V battery?

[Las Vegas]

The handling of this story couldn't have been more ridiculous.  It is an outrage.

[Irongrip400]

Kid did it on purpose. Obvious attention whore.

[JOHN MATRIX]

Why? How is that Amazon kit not a "third of a time bomb"? It's got a clock, it's got wires, and a carrier for the potatoes. How's the spud-clock in the picture I posted not a "third of a time bomb"? What's the salient difference that makes one a "third of a time bomb" and the other not? Why would the spud-clock not trigger suspicion? Are you implying that explosives won't go boom in the presence of a delicious, starchy potato? What if the potato is cooked? What if I replaced the potato with a 9V battery?

look into this story a bit more. look at the kid's family's background, and the little details the media didn't report...it sounds really suspicious to be honest.  the idea that it was a 'test run' is not really that far fetched.

[Las Vegas]

There's no legitimate reason to think it's anything other than what it looks like (fucked enough).  When you guys run with crap like that, you're helping to push the whole thing.

[chadstallion]

Kid did it on purpose. Obvious attention whore.

welcome to junior high.

[whork]

Was there any explosives?

[Dos Equis]

The plot sickens.  9/11 Troofers are some of the dumbest people on the planet.

'Clock Kid' Ahmed Mohamed's Dad Pushes 9/11 Conspiracy Theories Online
Oct 07, 2015 // 10:27pm
As seen on The Kelly File
 
There's a disturbing new twist in the story of Ahmed Mohamed, the Texas ninth grader whose homemade clock was mistaken for a bomb by teachers.

The boy's father, Mohamed Elhassan Mohamed, runs the Arabic-language National Reform Party Facebook page.

That account has shared a 14-minute conspiracy theory video on the 9/11 attacks and a post that shows the smoking Twin Towers, describing it as a U.S.-sponsored hoax to launch a worldwide war against Islam.

President Obama invited Ahmed to the White House for Astronomy Night on Oct. 19.

At a press conference, Ahmed said he planned to take the president up on his offer.

Watch Trace Gallagher's report above.

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http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/10/07/clock-kid-ahmed-mohameds-dad-pushes-911-conspiracy-theories-online

[Dos Equis]

Greed strikes again. 

Ahmed Mohamed: 'Clock boy' seeks $15m from city and school

Ahmed Mohamed was arrested after bringing a homemade clock to schoolImage copyrightGetty Images

Ahmed and his family have moved to Qatar for his schooling since the incident

A boy who was arrested for taking a homemade clock to class is seeking $15m (£10m) from his city and school.

Ahmed Mohamed, 14, was held by police and suspended from his school in Texas because his teacher mistook the clock for a bomb.

His lawyer said in a letter that the incident, which made global headlines, sparked threats against the teenager and left him deeply traumatised.
Ahmed and his family have since moved to Qatar to complete his education.

The arrest sparked outrage, sympathy and the trending hashtag #StandWithAhmed.

His lawyers are asking for $10m (£7m) from the city of Irving and $5m (£3.3m) from the Irving Independent School District, saying that Ahmed was "publicly mistreated" and remains scarred.

A homemade clock made by Ahmed Mohamed, 14, is seen in an undated picture released by the Irving Texas Police Department September 16, 2015.

Ahmed's homemade clock was mistaken for a bomb

In addition to the compensation they want an apology, saying that in the aftermath of the arrest, he received threatening emails and feared for his safety, causing "severe psychological trauma".

The lawyers will file a civil action suit if the school does not comply within 60 days, they said.

"Irving Police officials immediately determined that the clock was harmless. The only reason for the overreaction was that the responsible adults involved irrationally assumed that Ahmed was dangerous because of his race, national origin and religion," the lawyers wrote in a letter to the City of Irving.
Ahmed told reporters at the time it was "very sad" that his teacher thought his clock was a threat.

His arrest was sharply criticised, and he received an outpouring of support including an invitation to the White House.

In October, he met Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir in the Sudanese capital, Khartoum. Ahmed's father is a Sudanese immigrant to the US who once stood as a presidential candidate against Mr Bashir.

Ahmed also met Google co-founder Sergey Brin and officials from Turkey, Sudan and Jordan.

Texas officials defended their decision, saying they were only concerned with the safety of students.

The Qatar Foundation for Education, Science and Community offered him a full scholarship in October. His family announced they would be leaving Texas and moving so he could attend school there.

TIME Magazine named Ahmed among its "30 Most Influential Teens of 2015" list.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34904226?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

[Dos Equis]

Pretty good summary showing this kid likely set that school up. 

[JOHN MATRIX]

the silence from the apologists is deafening now.

[avxo]

the silence from the apologists is deafening now.

Silence about what?

[Necrosis]

Kid did it on purpose. Obvious attention whore.

lol, obviously, look at the idiots reading into a moronic kids fantasy.

[avxo]

Silence about what?

Oh, I guess he wants $15,000,000 and will sue if he doesn't get it. Pretty fucked up, but I guess we know that he's a true American after all.

[chadstallion]

there go the property taxes for the City of Irving.

[Dos Equis]

Greed strikes again. 

Ahmed Mohamed: 'Clock boy' seeks $15m from city and school

Ahmed Mohamed was arrested after bringing a homemade clock to schoolImage copyrightGetty Images

Ahmed and his family have moved to Qatar for his schooling since the incident

A boy who was arrested for taking a homemade clock to class is seeking $15m (£10m) from his city and school.

Ahmed Mohamed, 14, was held by police and suspended from his school in Texas because his teacher mistook the clock for a bomb.

His lawyer said in a letter that the incident, which made global headlines, sparked threats against the teenager and left him deeply traumatised.
Ahmed and his family have since moved to Qatar to complete his education.

The arrest sparked outrage, sympathy and the trending hashtag #StandWithAhmed.

His lawyers are asking for $10m (£7m) from the city of Irving and $5m (£3.3m) from the Irving Independent School District, saying that Ahmed was "publicly mistreated" and remains scarred.

A homemade clock made by Ahmed Mohamed, 14, is seen in an undated picture released by the Irving Texas Police Department September 16, 2015.

Ahmed's homemade clock was mistaken for a bomb

In addition to the compensation they want an apology, saying that in the aftermath of the arrest, he received threatening emails and feared for his safety, causing "severe psychological trauma".

The lawyers will file a civil action suit if the school does not comply within 60 days, they said.

"Irving Police officials immediately determined that the clock was harmless. The only reason for the overreaction was that the responsible adults involved irrationally assumed that Ahmed was dangerous because of his race, national origin and religion," the lawyers wrote in a letter to the City of Irving.
Ahmed told reporters at the time it was "very sad" that his teacher thought his clock was a threat.

His arrest was sharply criticised, and he received an outpouring of support including an invitation to the White House.

In October, he met Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir in the Sudanese capital, Khartoum. Ahmed's father is a Sudanese immigrant to the US who once stood as a presidential candidate against Mr Bashir.

Ahmed also met Google co-founder Sergey Brin and officials from Turkey, Sudan and Jordan.

Texas officials defended their decision, saying they were only concerned with the safety of students.

The Qatar Foundation for Education, Science and Community offered him a full scholarship in October. His family announced they would be leaving Texas and moving so he could attend school there.

TIME Magazine named Ahmed among its "30 Most Influential Teens of 2015" list.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34904226?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

'Clock Boy' lawsuit thrown out in federal court
By Fox 4 News
Published May 19, 2017
 
A federal court has thrown out the civil rights lawsuit filed by the family of the Texas teenager known as “Clock Boy.”

The lawsuit alleged that the city of Irving and Irving school district discriminated against Ahmed Mohamed at Irving MacArthur High School in September of 2015.

Mohamed, a Muslim teenager who was 14 years old at the time, brought a homemade clock to school to show his engineering teacher. But an alarm on the clock went off in his English class and the teacher confiscated it. He was sent to the principal’s office.

“A.M. never stated the device was anything other than a clock, never threatened anyone with harm, never claimed to have made a bomb, and never attempted to scare or cause alarm to anyone. When he asked for his parents, he was told that he could not speak with them because he was in the middle of an interrogation,” his attorney argued according to the court's ruling.

The lawsuit claimed Mohamed’s civil rights were violated when he was interrogated at length without his parents and arrested on hoax bomb charges.

When his father finally arrived at the school several hours later, the court documents state he "tried to explain to Officer Howman that A.M. was interested in robotics and created things, but she was unwilling to listen to his explanations."

Police originally said Mohamed was not very forthcoming and the school as concerned that the device was possibly the infrastructure for a bomb. Officers acted in an abundance of caution.

“It was a very suspicious device. We live in an age where you can't take things like that to school. Of course we've seen across our country horrific things happen. We have to err on the side of caution," Irving Police Chief Larry Boyd told FOX 4 in 2015.

The charges against Mohamed were later dropped but the school still suspended him for three days.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/19/clock-boy-lawsuit-thrown-out-in-federal-court.html

[TuHolmes]

I thought he and his bat shit loon family left the country?

[HockeyFightFan]

14 year old children don't have engineering teachers

[Moontrane]