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Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« on: September 25, 2015, 03:22:59 PM »
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2015, 04:44:48 AM »
This is what the devil wants...religion is not a bad thing ..its the ppl that pervert it like everything else that makes it bad. If a guy/girl followed the bible to the letter their whole lives we wouldn't need laws and nobody would be in prison
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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2015, 05:03:42 AM »
Two of the churches I attended have done great things for countless people.  A Christian company I used to work for has done unrepayable good for thousands of people throughout the years.

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2015, 05:10:20 AM »
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

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Watching sports on tv is considered a "hobby"?  -lol

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2015, 05:46:51 AM »
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

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OK, we get it. You're not religious. You claim you don't care if others are "be my guest, believe what you want..."

So what is the point of this thread? Why are you even starting a thread about religion?

Are you really a doctor? If so, what kind?

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2015, 05:48:23 AM »
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

Says Dr Dutch


ok

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2015, 05:50:10 AM »
Dunno if BB related, but I'd say: let the UN declare "religion" a hobby from 2016 on......some people got BB as a hobby, some soccer, some American Football, shooting pool, having pigeons, working on a Harley, swimming, scouting, collecting stamps, drinking beer, whatever.....hobby's i say......one of mine is BB.

Religious people: be my guest, believe what you want..............it's your hobby !!!!

Says Dr Dutch


Bad things come from false religion. 

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2015, 06:51:50 AM »
This is what the devil wants...religion is not a bad thing ..its the ppl that pervert it like everything else that makes it bad. If a guy/girl followed the bible to the letter their whole lives we wouldn't need laws and nobody would be in prison

Yes, mass stonings in the streets. No need for law there.  ::)
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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2015, 07:24:57 AM »
it's your hobby !!!!


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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2015, 08:26:22 AM »
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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2015, 08:28:18 AM »
Being human is bullshit. Being a conscious being is a mistake of evolution, a curse. No religion, religion... it's just pain and endless bullshit. :D

I linked this text to Uberman some time ago, I saw he was impressed by it  :D


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Peter W. Zapffe - The Last Messiah

One night in long bygone times, man awoke and saw himself.

He saw that he was naked under cosmos, homeless in his own body. All things dissolved before his testing thought, wonder above wonder, horror above horror unfolded in his mind.

Then woman too awoke and said it was time to go and slay. And he fetched his bow and arrow, a fruit of the marriage of spirit and hand, and went outside beneath the stars. But as the beasts arrived at their waterholes where he expected them of habit, he felt no more the tiger’s bound in his blood, but a great psalm about the brotherhood of suffering between everything alive.

That day he did not return with prey, and when they found him by the next new moon, he was sitting dead by the waterhole.

II

Whatever happened? A breach in the very unity of life, a biological paradox, an abomination, an absurdity, an exaggeration of disastrous nature. Life had overshot its target, blowing itself apart. A species had been armed too heavily – by spirit made almighty without, but equally a menace to its own well-being. Its weapon was like a sword without hilt or plate, a two-edged blade cleaving everything; but he who is to wield it must grasp the blade and turn the one edge toward himself.

Despite his new eyes, man was still rooted in matter, his soul spun into it and subordinated to its blind laws. And yet he could see matter as a stranger, compare himself to all phenomena, see through and locate his vital processes. He comes to nature as an unbidden guest, in vain extending his arms to beg conciliation with his maker: Nature answers no more, it performed a miracle with man, but later did not know him. He has lost his right of residence in the universe, has eaten from the Tree of Knowledge and been expelled from Paradise. He is mighty in the near world, but curses his might as purchased with his harmony of soul, his innocence, his inner peace in life’s embrace.

So there he stands with his visions, betrayed by the universe, in wonder and fear. The beast knew fear as well, in thunderstorms and on the lion’s claw. But man became fearful of life itself – indeed, of his very being. Life – that was for the beast to feel the play of power, it was heat and games and strife and hunger, and then at last to bow before the law of course. In the beast, suffering is self-confined, in man, it knocks holes into a fear of the world and a despair of life. Even as the child sets out on the river of life, the roars from the waterfall of death rise highly above the vale, ever closer, and tearing, tearing at its joy. Man beholds the earth, and it is breathing like a great lung; whenever it exhales, delightful life swarms from all its pores and reaches out toward the sun, but when it inhales, a moan of rupture passes through the multitude, and corpses whip the ground like bouts of hail. Not merely his own day could he see, the graveyards wrung themselves before his gaze, the laments of sunken millennia wailed against him from the ghastly decaying shapes, the earth-turned dreams of mothers. Future’s curtain unravelled itself to reveal a nightmare of endless repetition, a senseless squander of organic material. The suffering of human billions makes its entrance into him through the gateway of compassion, from all that happen arises a laughter to mock the demand for justice, his profoundest ordering principle. He sees himself emerge in his mother’s womb, he holds up his hand in the air and it has five branches; whence this devilish number five, and what has it to do with my soul? He is no longer obvious to himself – he touches his body in utter horror; this is you and so far do you extend and no farther. He carries a meal within him, yesterday it was a beast that could itself dash around, now I suck it up and make it part of me, and where do I begin and end? All things chain together in causes and effects, and everything he wants to grasp dissolves before the testing thought. Soon he sees mechanics even in the so-far whole and dear, in the smile of his beloved – there are other smiles as well, a torn boot with toes. Eventually, the features of things are features only of himself. Nothing exists without himself, every line points back at him, the world is but a ghostly echo of his voice – he leaps up loudly screaming and wants to disgorge himself onto the earth along with his impure meal, he feels the looming of madness and wants to find death before losing even such ability.

But as he stands before imminent death, he grasps its nature also, and the cosmic import of the step to come. His creative imagination constructs new, fearful prospects behind the curtain of death, and he sees that even there is no sanctuary found. And now he can discern the outline of his biologicocosmic terms: He is the universe’s helpless captive, kept to fall into nameless possibilities.

From this moment on, he is in a state of relentless panic.

Such a ‘feeling of cosmic panic’ is pivotal to every human mind. Indeed, the race appears destined to perish in so far as any effective preservation and continuation of life is ruled out when all of the individual’s attention and energy goes to endure, or relay, the catastrophic high tension within.

The tragedy of a species becoming unfit for life by overevolving one ability is not confined to humankind. Thus it is thought, for instance, that certain deer in paleontological times succumbed as they acquired overly-heavy horns. The mutations must be considered blind, they work, are thrown forth, without any contact of interest with their environment.

In depressive states, the mind may be seen in the image of such an antler, in all its fantastic splendour pinning its bearer to the ground.

Rest of the essay here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/3c1t59/peter_w_zapffe_the_last_messiah_no_tldr/

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2015, 08:30:37 AM »
Being human is bullshit. Being a conscious being is a mistake of evolution, a curse. No religion, religion... it's just pain and endless bullshit. :D

Reminds me of a Schopenhauer quote:

"Life swings like a pendulum backward and forward between pain and boredom."
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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2015, 08:35:50 AM »
Two of the churches I attended have done great things for countless people.  A Christian company I used to work for has done unrepayable good for thousands of people throughout the years.
how does this prove christianity is valid?

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2015, 08:38:19 AM »
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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2015, 08:44:49 AM »
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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2015, 08:59:23 AM »
its humans who degrade, distort and pervert religion. The real living meaning of the word is to unite with the Divine.

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2015, 09:15:31 AM »
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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2015, 09:56:12 AM »
So circulating a black square shaped idol in Mecca is a hobby?

I'd ask Dr Dutch  :)

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2015, 10:00:19 AM »
how does this prove christianity is valid?
It's not supposed to. No one questioned the validity of Christianity.

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2015, 10:29:28 AM »
Bad things come from false religion. 

Fuck off, you are to be stoned for wearing clothing of two different fabrics, to death.

The book is full of bullshit, immoral nonsense, there would be far more problems on earth IF we followed the bible, luckily no one does.

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2015, 10:30:37 AM »
This is what the devil wants...religion is not a bad thing ..its the ppl that pervert it like everything else that makes it bad. If a guy/girl followed the bible to the letter their whole lives we wouldn't need laws and nobody would be in prison


Ya, no one would be in prison ::)

They tried that back in the back in the day, the followed the bible, lots of suffering resulted.

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2015, 10:40:56 AM »
how does this prove christianity is valid?

Because giving and helping freely as opposed to a government that steals your money for the benefit of themselves is what separates a giving church from a stealing government. 

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2015, 11:18:05 AM »
Because giving and helping freely as opposed to a government that steals your money for the benefit of themselves is what separates a giving church from a stealing government.  

The same govt who lets church, uhh i mean a money making BUSINESS/scam tax exempt? Lol. Pretty cool that your govt allows this scam to be run in this country for free. You should love this govt. All bible thumpers should love our govt for allowing their churches to operate for free. Now you can empty your wallet to the corrupt church scams all over the country and get nothing but false hopes in return. Lol church owns you.

A "giving church"....ROFL.

Go back to bed little boy, grown ups be discussin things

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2015, 11:23:36 AM »
The same govt who lets church, uhh i mean a money making BUSINESS/scam tax exempt? Lol. Pretty cool that your govt allows this scam to be run in this country for free. You should love this govt. All bible thumpers should love our govt for allowing their churches to operate for free. Now you can empty your wallet to the corrupt church scams all over the country and get nothing but false hopes in return. Lol church owns you.

Go back to bed little boy, grown ups be discussin things

Yeah, go back to bed little boy. You're out of your league as usual. What percentage of your income to freely give each week, month or year. My guess is little to none.

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Re: Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2015, 11:26:00 AM »