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Re: My Long Post On Panic/Anxiety
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2015, 01:26:56 PM »
Cortisol is super high in the morning, since it's released in order to wake the body up from sleep. Ideally, coffee should be used a few hours after awakening to be better utilized after the cortisol levels have naturally lowered. I think waking up, jacked on cortisol, then drinking a lot of coffee furthers the massive flood of autonomic arousal.

But, we're all different. You have to find what works with your own body.  

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« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2015, 01:28:13 PM »
Meditation folks.

meditation is a personal thing, you cant profess to everyone to do it. I actually tried it, and I got insanely worked up and anxious from just sitting there trying to meditate. It was so not my thing, I would rate it as one of the worst things Ive tried for panic and anxiety

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« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2015, 01:33:50 PM »
well its the best thing for me.

perhaps really working through and releasing on a deeper level unconscious patterns of thinking,feeling and sensing is really what is needed, even though it can be very challenging.

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« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2015, 01:37:09 PM »
The pain is indescribable, very very intense, there's nowhere to turn mentally in the midst of an attack. Plenty of tough men have laughed at the idea of panic attacks... until they are hit with one. It's humbling.

Hahahah! I remember the time crawling on the floor and thinking, this is my last day on earth :D Then it happend 2-3 more times, and then never cam back anymore accept some small stuff. Then we have next big step to experience, depression, anxiety and stress that follow :D. Life is nice!

Worst time ever in my life : ). Nowhere to hide, nowhere to run. Your trapped and fucked like a prisoner in a dark cold isolation cell.

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« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2015, 01:40:48 PM »
Good post and yes,these kids are fucked.

I actually think it's the complete opposite, just because something hasn't been done (like coffee consumption) has no bearing on it's effect. It's well known coffee particularly black is super healthy and will create much more productive and intellectual people. We also use to have lead in our paint, we are fucked now there is no lead.

It's effects are quite helpful, it protects neurons from death and is very effective at enhancing cognition. If we want to live longer, science not nature is the answer, we are living machines.

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« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2015, 01:42:41 PM »
science not nature?

everything manifest is nature.

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« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2015, 01:52:43 PM »
Hormone imbalance and Depression/anxiety and Panic attacks. Cycling steroids is a pretty retarded thing to do. But getting hormone levels in check and keeping them there is one of the smartest things a person can do.

http://www.calmclinic.com/panic/causes/hormonal

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« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2015, 01:56:31 PM »
Hormone imbalance and Depression/anxiety and Panic attacks. Cycling steroids is a pretty retarded thing to do. But getting hormone levels in check and keeping them there is one of the smartest things a person can do.

http://www.calmclinic.com/panic/causes/hormonal

fuck yes, if hormones get out of balance too far you will feel the wrath of panic and anxiety. I feel sorry for woman in this area

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« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2015, 01:59:29 PM »
Caffeine and stimulants like ephedrine can be both anxiolytic and anxiogenic IMO. Nicotine same thing. I know I feel less anxious on ephedrine, perhaps because it boosts mood and alleviates depression. If caffeine causes problems by all means drop it, or just use less. Coffee is healthy like Necrosis said. I don't think caffeine is evil.

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« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2015, 02:37:12 PM »
Everything is under control

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                             Everything is under control

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« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2015, 03:00:37 PM »
Caffeine and stimulants like ephedrine can be both anxiolytic and anxiogenic IMO. Nicotine same thing. I know I feel less anxious on ephedrine, perhaps because it boosts mood and alleviates depression. If caffeine causes problems by all means drop it, or just use less. Coffee is healthy like Necrosis said. I don't think caffeine is evil.

I think anything that causes withdrawals when you stop probably isn't a good thing. Majority of productive society is hooked on caffeine. I wonder what kind of drop in production "as a whole" the world would see if everyone stopped using caffeine at the same time? And without caffeine, would the production numbers ever get back up to where they are today...Just a guess but I don't think the numbers would be anywhere close to what they are in a world hooked on caffeine. Probably talking losses in the trillions. Because so, we will never get the truth from the media on caffeine and all it's negative effects...

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« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2015, 03:04:30 PM »
I started taking magnesium pills and it helped with my anxiety. And I have baaaaad anxiety .

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Re: My Long Post On Panic/Anxiety
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2015, 03:26:24 PM »
I actually think it's the complete opposite, just because something hasn't been done (like coffee consumption) has no bearing on it's effect. It's well known coffee particularly black is super healthy and will create much more productive and intellectual people. We also use to have lead in our paint, we are fucked now there is no lead.

It's effects are quite helpful, it protects neurons from death and is very effective at enhancing cognition. If we want to live longer, science not nature is the answer, we are living machines.

I didnt say caffeine was bad. I said i cut my intake a lot. Green tea with lemon and mint leaves is my wake up now.

I said overuse of stims exacts same effect as adrenaline. Edgy, in survival mode... and i was studying/working 8am to 10pm with workout at lunch back then. These lazy fucks do nothing but get hyped and watch youtube.

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« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2015, 03:28:04 PM »
create the time and space in your life to work on it, you can get it under control, have faith and move forward.

I try to just say fuck it and not pay attention to it,then it cresps its way back in.Very fucking frustrating.I feel weak and helpless when it comes to this shit.

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« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2015, 03:30:26 PM »
why exactly?

Probably because whenever i feel horrible i think its the years of steroid use coming back to haunt me.As someone mentioned anxiety attacks read like a heart attack or stroke.I feel that i damaged myself and will die prematurely from it.Maybe not but with anxiety it just sticks in your head.

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« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2015, 03:32:46 PM »
Probably because whenever i feel horrible i think its the years of steroid use coming back to haunt me.As someone mentioned anxiety attacks read like a heart attack or stroke.I feel that i damaged myself and will die prematurely from it.Maybe not but with anxiety it just sticks in your head.

I think another huge factor for me is I have absolutely no fear of death. Im gonna be 50 in a couple months, Ive already gone past what most people thought I would based on my life lol. Im completely comfortable going tomorrow or in 50 more years. Its all bonus time now.

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« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2015, 03:45:56 PM »
Probably because whenever i feel horrible i think its the years of steroid use coming back to haunt me.As someone mentioned anxiety attacks read like a heart attack or stroke.I feel that i damaged myself and will die prematurely from it.Maybe not but with anxiety it just sticks in your head.

push all those thoughts far away. Look at Frank Zane, Lee Haney, Robbie Robinson etc there doing fine.

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« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2015, 03:47:47 PM »
I think another huge factor for me is I have absolutely no fear of death. Im gonna be 50 in a couple months, Ive already gone past what most people thought I would based on my life lol. Im completely comfortable going tomorrow or in 50 more years. Its all bonus time now.

Then what the hell do you worry about? Transcending the fear of death is something yogis meditating for years strive to attain, yet you've already attained that state of fearlessness? Rejoice then!

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Re: My Long Post On Panic/Anxiety
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2015, 03:48:11 PM »
push all those thoughts far away. Look at Frank Zane, Lee Haney, Robbie Robinson etc there doing fine.

so 3 examples of people who you have no idea what they are like behind closed doors makes it all good?

listen pot pie, unless you experience a panic attack or extreme anxiety, I truly believe you have no place to comment on it. Many many many people have said if they had to choose between cancer and panic attacks, they would take cancer. You have less than zero clue what one is like

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Re: My Long Post On Panic/Anxiety
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2015, 03:49:23 PM »
Then what the hell do you worry about? Transcending the fear of death is something yogis meditating for years strive to attain, yet you've already attained that state of fearlessness? Rejoice then!

um, what am I worrying about these days? I havent had a panic attack since 2005 and havent had anxiety at a high level in ages. Quote the exact post where it says I worry about anything? I'll be waiting for it

when BigRo posts, I honestly put my head in my hands, shake my head and hope he is trolling and not a total moron in real life. Im not even being mean here, he just comes across as fucking brain dead dumb

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« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2015, 03:59:55 PM »
brain dead is what you are sir, keep popping those anti depressants zombie.

I know what anxiety and panic feel like.

Your not free from anxiety so don't pretend you are. Work on your mind as well as your body. Your not ready to face death consciously, I,m sure of it.


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« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2015, 04:05:53 PM »
brain dead is what you are sir, keep popping those anti depressants zombie.

I know what anxiety and panic feel like.

Your not free from anxiety so don't pretend you are. Work on your mind as well as your body. Your not ready to face death consciously, I,m sure of it.



lol did I say Im free? I said I get it mildly a couple times a month. Wow, what a tool.

Heres a story for you. Your buddy junior will know exactly who Im talking about. There's this chick where I live--your age---all her social media posts are about buddha and meditation and all that garbage. She is a fucking moron, a complete and utter moron. Every person in Regina she knows acknowledges she is dumb as a post while trying to come across as some buddha/meditation twat. You are a dead ringer for her. Beyond stupid but wanting people to believe you are smart. Its essentially the same as the internet tough guy, but in this case the internet smart guy.

Ive never faked who I am. Im not the smartest guy around, not the best looking and definitely not the best built. I have mental health issues that I completely acknowledge and deal with the best I can and always speak my mind and the truth. Theres no phony with me. You CLEARLY cannot say the same. Now go show us that amazing hand speed on the heavy bag  ::) ::) ::) lolol

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Re: My Long Post On Panic/Anxiety
« Reply #72 on: September 26, 2015, 04:16:02 PM »
you're Boring Son.

Yeah, that's what drunks use to say to sober people...

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Re: My Long Post On Panic/Anxiety
« Reply #73 on: September 26, 2015, 04:31:19 PM »
push all those thoughts far away. Look at Frank Zane, Lee Haney, Robbie Robinson etc there doing fine.

Believe me im trying,my father did alot of dbol,test and winstrol when he was younger and he is fine at 66,its just hard to control the thoughts when you hve anxiety cause you think they are gone and they manifest in another way.Very hard to explain but if you have had it you know what i mean.I know lots of guys juicing in their 50s and dont have a care in the world,i used to be the sane way then one day it all changed.what really sucks is most drs know nothing about anxiety and just say deal with it,i wish everyone could exoerience one day of brutal anxiety so they would get it.It truly is brutal and hard to treat correctly.Very weird when your mind goes rogue.

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Re: My Long Post On Panic/Anxiety
« Reply #74 on: September 26, 2015, 06:09:31 PM »
science not nature?

everything manifest is nature.

I agree, but in a practical sense no. Science is a part of nature, the part that tells the truth.