Nandrolone

[theworm]

Deca:  I know gains are slow and most rec long cycles.

But, I was wondering if high dose x 8 weeks was better or same as lower dose x 12-14 weeks

Ie 600 mg x 8 weeks compared to 300 mg x 12-14 weeks...

Maybe less shut down with the former cycle but same gains?

[Jizmo]

600mg high dose?  


with AAS, more is always more, simple as that
if you can gain off of 300mg deca a week then thats fine but you could also just stay natural lol


try a gram for 20 weeks, then youll see some gains

arent you cycling and coming off after your cycles?
 dont use deca if you intend to do pct. just dont.
look up the half life. deca is completely not suited for someone who ever intends to run PCT

[theworm]

600mg high dose?  


with AAS, more is always more, simple as that
if you can gain off of 300mg deca a week then thats fine but you could also just stay natural lol


try a gram for 20 weeks, then youll see some gains

arent you cycling and coming off after your cycles?
 dont use deca if you intend to do pct. just dont.
look up the half life. deca is completely not suited for someone who ever intends to run PCT

600 is a higher dose, did not mean it was a high dose, but it's legit HRt deca...  So it's the real deal

I'm off everything now, I do pct

Plan was to run hcg with it then pct at end
Was going to run test a few weeks afterwards then pct.

But back to the question, think gains would be same, and maybe less sides and shutdown duration with the higher dose for shorter periods?

[Jizmo]

shutdown is shutdown
there is no "more or less" shutdown

8 weeks for deca is pointless
and deca is pointless for "cycling" too
again, look up the half lives, youd have to wait like 2 months after your last deca shot for any chance of a successful pct

gains would probably be better on short high dose runs
dosage wise 300mg deca aint enough to gain real tissue imo
cycle length wise 8 weeks aint either though

use npp if you want to keep it short (short being 12 weeks imo)

[theworm]

shutdown is shutdown
there is no "more or less" shutdown

8 weeks for deca is pointless
and deca is pointless for "cycling" too
again, look up the half lives, youd have to wait like 2 months after your last deca shot for any chance of a successful pct

gains would probably be better on short high dose runs
dosage wise 300mg deca aint enough to gain real tissue imo
cycle length wise 8 weeks aint either though

use npp if you want to keep it short (short being 12 weeks imo)

I understand shutdown is shutdown, but think about it, 800 mg vs 100 mg, you are shut down...

But if you are shut down for 8 weeks it would be easier to rebound than 16 weeks of shutdown

Hence the original question

Ps, I cycled deca plenty of times with good results

[herraisland]

Deca:  I know gains are slow and most rec long cycles.

But, I was wondering if high dose x 8 weeks was better or same as lower dose x 12-14 weeks

Ie 600 mg x 8 weeks compared to 300 mg x 12-14 weeks...

Maybe less shut down with the former cycle but same gains?

Would go high dose for 8 weeks. Have done deca for shorter then 8 weeks  and I was pretty amazed by the results... EveryOne saying deca dosent kick in after 5-8 weeks. Well atleast I gained pretty good.

[theworm]

Would go high dose for 8 weeks. Have done deca for shorter then 8 weeks  and I was pretty amazed by the results... EveryOne saying deca dosent kick in after 5-8 weeks. Well atleast I gained pretty good.

Explain?

What dose and what duration and what did u see?

[heenok]

Even EQ starts working immediatly. I remember i started to be visibly thicker after like 5 days on test E.
The strengh and the muscle gain take a bit of time to be visible but the drugs blood level get elevated very quickly even with long esther.

[equipoise]

Explain?

What dose and what duration and what did u see?

Why not just use npp? have to pin more often but it's in and out of your system so much quicker, can start and stop when you want

[herraisland]

Explain?

What dose and what duration and what did u see?

I had to try this cycle theory's rich piana was swearing by on his video. And I did guess he was right. Did 4 weeks on deca and had awesome gains on these 4 weeks i was on deca, then I changed to test, tren and dbol.

[theworm]

Why not just use npp? have to pin more often but it's in and out of your system so much quicker, can start and stop when you want

Cause u can't get npp from HRt clinics, thus not legal.  I'm older now, so I can't fuck with felony charges! Lol

[pestosterone]

Npp is better IMO I like to stay on deca and rotate npp on top of it rotated out with dbol every 4-6 weeks I probly liked that most out of every rotation or combo with high test.....high for me

[efanhowz]

Deca is hands down the best recovery AAS out there. Ppl don't see rapid strength/weight gain with it but think about after your workouts: the soreness (DOMS) is significantly less in regards of sensitivity and duration. Don't undervalue nandrolone. It's been around forever for a reason. If you think it's not working than its time to up the volume and intensity and watch your body adapt.

[jb14972]

deca is great and does start working immediately, to see big results takes a big dose or time. npp is much faster but honestly dose is the biggest difference maker. 600 mg to 800 mg is a huge difference let alone 300 mg to 800 or a gram. i have noticed massive size gains in the first 3 weeks on deca at 900mg.