Oregon shooting: Gunman dead after college rampage

[whork]

the vast majority of these 241 so-called 'mass shootings' are gang/drug related violence in which criminals are offing each other, you know, they type that occurs almost exclusively in big liberal cities with strict gun control that Obama always forgets to say anything about.

the implication that these are 'mass shootings' like the one at the school is laughably disingenuous.

and theres no way there have been 41 'school shootings' this year...again, its all in how they intentionally define it, for example when a car jacking or drug killing takes place within a few blocks of a school in a bad area, they throw it in the 'school shooting' category to pad the stats. don't believe me? try to actually look up 41 school shootings this year. actually try to find them. you wont find even half that.

second point is a classic libtard favorite and  the easiest to debunk- 1/2 to 2/3 of that number are SUICIDES so they don't even count as they are not murders at all. also included in tis numbers are criminals shot by cops. the killer in the recent attack would be included in this number. and again, the vast majority of what is left is gang related thugs shooting each other. take away the 3-4 biggest urban democrat cities numbers (Chicago, LA, new york, DC) and America's murder rates are closer to Switzerland's.

the point about ebola is so vague and stupid its not worth addressing.

the next one is completely false, in fact it is also so absurdly wrong no one should even address it. not once in 30 years? really?? that's strange because it happens on a DAILY BASIS all over the country, but it rarely makes the news because it isn't sensational/doesn't fit the agenda.

the next point is also completely absurd.  we have carefully recorded data for the US, and no reliable numbers are kept in most parts of the world. America realistically has not 50 % but maybe a tiny, tiny fraction of that relative to the rest of the world. realistically, there are more mass killings in Iraq/Syria/Africa/mexico/latin america on a daily basis than there are in America in 50 years combined.

no one can say if America is the 'most armed country in the world because there is no reliable data from everywhere else. does America have more weaponry per person than Afghanistan? or sierra leone? or Switzerland? or many others? doubtful. many of these places, the citizenry have things like grenades, IED's, RPG's, fully automatic machine guns, and tons of other things that law-abiding americans have no access to at all. even regarding guns, America must have the most peaceful weapon-owners on earth, because of the 80 million LEGAL gun owners in America, 99.999% never , ever shoot anyone.

the one about 'half the civilian guns in the world' is also not only based on completely unreliable data, but even if it were true(which it is not), again, 99.99% of LEGAL gun owners never, ever shoot anyone in their entire lives.

bombs and chemicals are fully accessable to those who want really them-same as guns that are already banned, or could be banned in the future-and bombs and chemical weapons have been used extensively by those wanting to kill people both in America and all over the world. banning them only stops law abiding people from obtaining them. bad people who want to kill can get whatever they want from back channels regardless of the law.

the last 'point' is typical leftist anti-American dribble that is so ignorant on so many levels it doesn't even need addressing.

Note to Coach and Beach Bum.

This is how you address the issue.

Note that although Mr. Matrix is a republican (i think) none of the lib's here are calling him stupid.

[Dos Equis]

Note to Coach and Beach Bum.

This is how you address the issue.

Note that although Mr. Matrix is a republican (i think) none of the lib's here are calling him stupid.

You should take notes.  You and the people calling Coach stupid rarely engage in substantive, insult-free dialogue. 

[LurkerNoMore]

You should take notes.  You and the people calling Coach stupid rarely engage in substantive, insult-free dialogue. 

Calling Coach stupid isn't an insult.  It is simply stating a fact.

[Dos Equis]

Calling Coach stupid isn't an insult.  It is simply stating a fact.

 

[Las Vegas]

The writer specializes in placing "strategic messages" in media, and sure enough it's splattered all over the net. 

Notice how guys like him don't stay around to try to back it up.  That says it all.

[JOHN MATRIX]

The writer specializes in placing "strategic messages" in media, and sure enough it's splattered all over the net. 

Notice how guys like him don't stay around to try to back it up.  That says it all.

exactly...deliberately spreading misinformation to scare uninformed people

[Dos Equis]

Video || Obama May Not be Welcome in Roseburg
Posted on October 7, 2015
by Keith Koffler

President Obama Friday will ravel to Roseburg, Oregon to “comfort” victims of last week’s shooting there, but many residents don’t seem to particularly want him around.

The White House said Tuesday that Obama will not hold any public events, and that his intent is strictly to meet with the bereaved. But people in the town are aware that Obama, merely by showing up, is contributing to the politicization of the shooting that he himself has called for.

According to the Douglas County commissioner, many people in town oppose Obama on gun control and aren’t happy about the visit. He said Chris Mintz, the hero who tried to stop the gunman and was shot seven times, also had concerns about having Obama in town.

“When I mentioned to him that the president was coming, he was not real excited about getting involved in the political part of this,” the commissioner said.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2015/10/07/video-obama-roseburg/

[240 is Back]

Ben carson can't make this shooting, but said he'd be sure to catch the next one.


seriously.  dense.

[Straw Man]

Video || Obama May Not be Welcome in Roseburg
Posted on October 7, 2015
by Keith Koffler

President Obama Friday will ravel to Roseburg, Oregon to “comfort” victims of last week’s shooting there, but many residents don’t seem to particularly want him around.

The White House said Tuesday that Obama will not hold any public events, and that his intent is strictly to meet with the bereaved. But people in the town are aware that Obama, merely by showing up, is contributing to the politicization of the shooting that he himself has called for.

According to the Douglas County commissioner, many people in town oppose Obama on gun control and aren’t happy about the visit. He said Chris Mintz, the hero who tried to stop the gunman and was shot seven times, also had concerns about having Obama in town.

“When I mentioned to him that the president was coming, he was not real excited about getting involved in the political part of this,” the commissioner said.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2015/10/07/video-obama-roseburg/

and if he didn't go the right wing would lose their minds over that too

[Dos Equis]

Fat Man is right.

Chris Christie calls Obama decision to 'politicize' shootings 'obscene'
By Tom LoBianco, CNN
Thu October 8, 2015 | Video Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)—New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie on Thursday called President Barack Obama's comments after the Umpqua Community College shooting "obscene" and blasted the President's statement that the incident needed to be "politicized" in the wake of continued widespread gun violence.

"I think what the President did last week, quite frankly, was obscene," Christie told a town hall audience in Manchester, New Hampshire. "I would not have gone out into the White House press room and railed about how this should be politicized. Because I'll tell you what I would be thinking about. What I would be thinking about are the parents, the spouses, the children, the relatives of those nine people. And I would be thinking, if they were sitting by the television set that moment, what they would want to hear from their president was, 'We're thinking of you.'"

Obama bemoaned the "routine" nature of mass shootings -- and the fact he has had to address them frequently -- last week after a gunman killed nine people and wounded nine more.

But Christie himself has faced criticism in the gun control debate for how he handled the families of shooting victims. Families of the victims in the Newtown school shootings hit Christie last year for refusing to meet with them before he vetoed a new gun control measure.

Mark Barden, who lost his 7-year-old son Daniel in the Newtown shooting and who serves as the advocacy director for Sandy Hook Promise, said he repeatedly tried to meet with Christie during the summer of 2014 before the governor vetoed legislation that would have limited the size of ammunition clips from 15 rounds to 10 rounds.

"No one told me he had no intention to meet with us," Barden told CNN last year. "I beg to wonder why he didn't just tell me that."

A request for comment from the Christie campaign was not immediately returned Thursday afternoon.

At the time, Christie defended himself, saying, "I met with Newtown families a year ago and talked about the full range of gun control issues they were concerned about. ... I didn't feel it was necessary to meet with them again, especially after I had made the decision."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/08/politics/oregon-shooting-chris-christie-obama/index.html