Short Blast

[epcfitness]

700/prop week
525/tren ace
550/npp
500/mast
50mg/dbol
5iu hgh
15iu slin 2x on training days
.5 caber e3d
1mg adex e3d
50mg proviron ed
T3=???

Thoughts? Masts primary reason for being there is for libido purposes. Have tons of t3 but never used it before and I'm starting to get lethargic with the tren and hgh so feel like adding it in. Diet is everything under the sun and anything I want I have a life to live I'm not restricting myself to shit - donuts pizza cereal hot pockets home made mass gainer shakes rice beans steak fast food chocolate bars beer vodka redbull cranberry juice pancakes eggs hash browns home fries brown gravy pasta lasagna gummy worms fried food etc...
5'11 195lbs 9%bf... So help me out here.

[dexitrim]

700/prop week
525/tren ace
550/npp
500/mast
50mg/dbol
5iu hgh
15iu slin 2x on training days
.5 caber e3d
1mg adex e3d
50mg proviron ed
T3=???

Thoughts? Masts primary reason for being there is for libido purposes. Have tons of t3 but never used it before and I'm starting to get lethargic with the tren and hgh so feel like adding it in. Diet is everything under the sun and anything I want I have a life to live I'm not restricting myself to shit - donuts pizza cereal hot pockets home made mass gainer shakes rice beans steak fast food chocolate bars beer vodka redbull cranberry juice pancakes eggs hash browns home fries brown gravy pasta lasagna gummy worms fried food etc...
5'11 195lbs 9%bf... So help me out here.

50mcg of T3 would be plenty.   Although, if you have HG T3, you might start at 25mcg, and see how you do for a while before bumping up to 50mcg.

[Davidtheman100]

700/prop week
525/tren ace
550/npp
500/mast
50mg/dbol
5iu hgh
15iu slin 2x on training days
.5 caber e3d
1mg adex e3d
50mg proviron ed
T3=???

Thoughts? Masts primary reason for being there is for libido purposes. Have tons of t3 but never used it before and I'm starting to get lethargic with the tren and hgh so feel like adding it in. Diet is everything under the sun and anything I want I have a life to live I'm not restricting myself to shit - donuts pizza cereal hot pockets home made mass gainer shakes rice beans steak fast food chocolate bars beer vodka redbull cranberry juice pancakes eggs hash browns home fries brown gravy pasta lasagna gummy worms fried food etc...
5'11 195lbs 9%bf... So help me out here.

This is fine for gaining size but with two 19-nors i would worry about keeping E2 in check so that prolactin doesn't get out of control...But your delts should really look great on this cycle diet is fine as long as protein is over 300g and you aren't eating 10kcal lol you just add 25mcg t3 to replace what's gonna be screwed up while you're on tren...If you aren't trying to cut and are eating a ton t3 will hinder that because of the metabolism increase if it was something like clen that JUST FOCUSED on fatloss and is even mildly anabolic (VERY MILDLY though) T3 will strip away both muscle tissue and fat equally because of the receptors it regulates do those actions...So if you're trying to gain some weight and muscle using something that makes your food ceiling higher to gain the same amount of muscle does not seem like a good recipe....Would swap it for clen or i wouldn't use it any higher than 25...Clen with Tren and Gh with slice through your fat...IMO short bursting GH is a waste unless you're staying on especially at the dosage of 5iu..

[epcfitness]

This is fine for gaining size but with two 19-nors i would worry about keeping E2 in check so that prolactin doesn't get out of control...But your delts should really look great on this cycle diet is fine as long as protein is over 300g and you aren't eating 10kcal lol you just add 25mcg t3 to replace what's gonna be screwed up while you're on tren...If you aren't trying to cut and are eating a ton t3 will hinder that because of the metabolism increase if it was something like clen that JUST FOCUSED on fatloss and is even mildly anabolic (VERY MILDLY though) T3 will strip away both muscle tissue and fat equally because of the receptors it regulates do those actions...So if you're trying to gain some weight and muscle using something that makes your food ceiling higher to gain the same amount of muscle does not seem like a good recipe....Would swap it for clen or i wouldn't use it any higher than 25...Clen with Tren and Gh with slice through your fat...IMO short bursting GH is a waste unless you're staying on especially at the dosage of 5iu..

Maybe running tren isn't the best idea right now then if I'll have to use t3 with it because I don't like dealing with this lethargy... If that's the case I could change up the burst drop the tren because it makes me paranoid and crazy as hell anyways and run the following

1.4g sust OR 1.2g eq
700 prop
700 npp
500 mast
5iu hgh (this is going to be ran for at least 9 months)
50mg dbol
15iu slin 2x on training days

Is 700npp weekly too high? I've ran before 2.5g test 1.5g deca managed for 2 weeks and hopped the hell off because I have problems with nandrolone causing me to finish in 1-4 strokes in bed literally

Shoot on second thought if I'm going to drop the tren I might as well redesign this whole thing when I get home from work.

[triggerhappy]

Drop the mast and proviron and just runny winny. Libido will be fine if running that amount of test and a proper anti I and caber. Tren and t3 are my favourite together but do get tired just run a good pre work out when training

[Depocyp]

700/prop week
525/tren ace
550/npp
500/mast
50mg/dbol
5iu hgh
15iu slin 2x on training days
.5 caber e3d
1mg adex e3d
50mg proviron ed
T3=???

Thoughts? Masts primary reason for being there is for libido purposes. Have tons of t3 but never used it before and I'm starting to get lethargic with the tren and hgh so feel like adding it in. Diet is everything under the sun and anything I want I have a life to live I'm not restricting myself to shit - donuts pizza cereal hot pockets home made mass gainer shakes rice beans steak fast food chocolate bars beer vodka redbull cranberry juice pancakes eggs hash browns home fries brown gravy pasta lasagna gummy worms fried food etc...
5'11 195lbs 9%bf... So help me out here.

Nice shotgun stack, I can tell you're a really smart guy who thinks a lot

[dexitrim]

Nice shotgun stack, I can tell you're a really smart guy who thinks a lot

Why don't you stop "shotgun stacking" nubain and coke and tren, and add something useful to the convo?   This isn't ripped.com, so you can't go flaming complete noobs like this.  Words hurt.

[Jizmo]

agree on the t3, i love it even on bulks, but wouldnt go any higher than 50-60mcg either. 50mcg a day already puts you into severe hyperthyroidism... more and itll definitely cut into fullness and strength.
in general dont worry though.. youll be fine using it, it wont cut into gains if you dose it properly.

eating everything in sight is never a good idea imo, it simply always leads to unnecessary fat gains

id use more than 1mg adex e3d, as david said. at least 1mg eod

ive actually ran 3 19nors together a couple times (tren, npp, methyltren) and never had any issues just using adex and high doses of vit b6 (which actually works just as well as caber for me).
i always run a low dose SERM too though (20mg raloxifene), since it does give some of the benefits of estrogen (cholesterol, bone density etc) and at the same time prevents gyno (tissue dependent antagonist/agonist activity)

[Davidtheman100]

agree on the t3, i love it even on bulks, but wouldnt go any higher than 50-60mcg either. 50mcg a day already puts you into severe hyperthyroidism... more and itll definitely cut into fullness and strength.
in general dont worry though.. youll be fine using it, it wont cut into gains if you dose it properly.

eating everything in sight is never a good idea imo, it simply always leads to unnecessary fat gains

id use more than 1mg adex e3d, as david said. at least 1mg eod

ive actually ran 3 19nors together a couple times (tren, npp, methyltren) and never had any issues just using adex and high doses of vit b6 (which actually works just as well as caber for me).
i always run a low dose SERM too though (20mg raloxifene), since it does give some of the benefits of estrogen (cholesterol, bone density etc) and at the same time prevents gyno (tissue dependent antagonist/agonist activity)

it's different with everybody and your case isn't the norm. Many have trouble keeping levels in check with just 1 of those 3...of corse the person like you has more potential for bodybuilding though nice job...shake what your mama gave you

[Jizmo]

it's different with everybody and your case isn't the norm. Many have trouble keeping levels in check with just 1 of those 3...of corse the person like you has more potential for bodybuilding though nice job...shake what your mama gave you

i believe the body gets used to ANYTHING

when i first touched tren at a measly 50mg ed with low test my nips started looking weird i was lactating within a week...
blasted AIs, caber, everything but it actually never stopped... no gyno forming, no lumps, nothing, but it just lactated when you squeezed it.
it actually didnt bother me, i mean its weird but when do you ever squeeze your nipple on purpose? so when i noticed i couldnt stop it anyways i just ignored it
after a couple months it was just gone... i dont even know why

i also lay awake in bed for hours every night and literally couldnt get any sleep when on tren, it was horrible


imo if you just run tren for long enough and youll some day be completely immune to all the side effects (the ones that you actually notice)...


here i am nowadays running 3 19 nors together and not a single nip issue
also sleep like a baby
just get the positives
(plus wrecked bloodwork)

[Davidtheman100]

i believe the body gets used to ANYTHING

when i first touched tren at a measly 50mg ed with low test my nips started looking weird i was lactating within a week...
blasted AIs, caber, everything but it actually never stopped... no gyno forming, no lumps, nothing, but it just lactated when you squeezed it.
it actually didnt bother me, i mean its weird but when do you ever squeeze your nipple on purpose? so when i noticed i couldnt stop it anyways i just ignored it
after a couple months it was just gone... i dont even know why

i also lay awake in bed for hours every night and literally couldnt get any sleep when on tren, it was horrible


imo if you just run tren for long enough and youll some day be completely immune to all the side effects (the ones that you actually notice)...


here i am nowadays running 3 19 nors together and not a single nip issue
also sleep like a baby
just get the positives
(plus wrecked bloodwork)

There are people who's genetic estro is naturally high and they have pre pubescent gyno with a passion for lifting that would disagree with you...(theres plenty of them out there if you take away the gyro part) the average males testosterone levels in this day and age is not what it used to be...While there are people that adjust...There are also people with 4-5 runs in with those compounds like deca and tren and have said that they will stop them completely because it always ends up bad for them...These are the overwhelming majority in the fitness community. And it's logical. Because when running 2-3 you have to work harder to keep your levels in check. Your body won't just adjust and say "okay i don't want gyno and lactation in my mind so nothing will happen to my body" when by your actions, are doing the same exact opposite over and over again to your body....If the human body was perfect...And it stayed the same while you added these compounds and just gave you the "good" and took away the bad because it knows you need high doses to make gains lol this is not the case... it's either a tweaking of the AI or DA (which takes time itself to find the right dosages) or you had a bad batch before....There are some brewers that essentially just put straight estro in their tren ace and tren enth...Because rookie users will automatically equate the drug giving them bad side effects, to the drug being real...(which is stupid in itself, but this is what you get from the fitness community lol) It's too much to keep in check for the majority of gym rats and occasional drug users for the majority have an understand of and grasp....

[Jizmo]

interesting theory too... it also takes a lot of time to get used to the stuff imo... both me and my buddy have ran tren for about a year straight (not advising anyone to do this), but only after more than half a year or so we actually both got used to the sides and they disappeared... most people probably hop off before the body is able to "adapt"... since they simply cant last that long if they feel like shit on a certain compound

but yeah i guess youre right, especially with the gyno thing.. some people are just prone and get it from everything, no matter how long theyre on...

[Damios]

both me and my buddy have ran tren for about a year straight (not advising anyone to do this), but only after more than half a year or so we actually both got used to the sides and they disappeared...

I think a lot of people go off with any compound when they used to the sides from it becouse they think... no sides = compound stop works 

[equipoise]

interesting theory too... it also takes a lot of time to get used to the stuff imo... both me and my buddy have ran tren for about a year straight (not advising anyone to do this), but only after more than half a year or so we actually both got used to the sides and they disappeared... most people probably hop off before the body is able to "adapt"... since they simply cant last that long if they feel like shit on a certain compound

but yeah i guess youre right, especially with the gyno thing.. some people are just prone and get it from everything, no matter how long theyre on...

What is your tren dose and what about the mental sides? I have slowly lowered it down more and more to now 20mg of tren a EOD and I went off earlier this week. Made me a bit angry and abit too cocky. I want to be the friendly guy lol

[Jizmo]

What is your tren dose and what about the mental sides? I have slowly lowered it down more and more to now 20mg of tren a EOD and I went off earlier this week. Made me a bit angry and abit too cocky. I want to be the friendly guy lol

i use up to a gram of tren when im bulking
i usually dont use it when im cutting though, it makes me too hungry

as long as i keep test high too and E2 in check i feel fine...
i definitely get keyed up much faster if someone is needling me, however that rarely happens... also more emotional (positively and negatively, this can also make you a much better person imo)
im actually more chill because im more confident and dont worry about anything on tren