Author Topic: vince;s gym 1980 (Read 16918 times)

BIG AL MCKECHNIE · « **Reply #50 on:** October 04, 2015, 04:44:16 PM »

Quote from: funk51 on October 04, 2015, 03:49:39 PM

A great example there of Larry and Freddy and the natural gains achieved under the Iron Guru Vince. Why they tried steroids later on is a mystery.

Slik · « **Reply #51 on:** October 04, 2015, 06:25:12 PM »

Funk I have that pic hanging in the brickyard. Was wondering where u got it in color then I read the photo itself. Someone colorized that very well!

Montague · « **Reply #52 on:** October 05, 2015, 02:05:11 AM »

Quote from: Slik on October 04, 2015, 06:25:12 PM

Funk I have that pic hanging in the brickyard. Was wondering where u got it in color then I read the photo itself. Someone colorized that very well!

Slik, there is a guy colorizing many famous old-time bodybuilding photos.
Funk's got a great thread featuring many of those pictures on the History board. You should check it out!

Slik · « **Reply #53 on:** October 05, 2015, 06:54:13 AM »

Quote from: Montague on October 05, 2015, 02:05:11 AM

Slik, there is a guy colorizing many famous old-time bodybuilding photos.
Funk's got a great thread featuring many of those pictures on the History board. You should check it out!

ha! I never knew there was a history board. Thx!

oldgolds · « **Reply #54 on:** October 06, 2015, 01:15:15 PM »

Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 04, 2015, 08:20:01 AM

Ask yourself this question. Why would Vince give his life to unveiling the secrets of 4 sides to a muscle training and glandular supplementation and then allow drug taking bodybuilders to enter his gym ? A gym so adorned by his own images as to be a veritable shrine to the outcome of scientific training and nutrition pre 1960.

If he let steroid users train at his gym would that not make the whole Vince Gironda mystique and legend nothing but smoke and mirrors?

I am fed up with the disrespect shown to Vince on here.

You are delusional...I would bet that Vince was on drugs himself....Haven't you learned that bodybuilders are compulsive liars? and I've been in Vince's Gym, back in 1975.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #55 on:** October 06, 2015, 02:03:00 PM »

Quote from: MAXX on October 03, 2015, 01:34:39 PM

Vince current gym

lolz

BIG AL MCKECHNIE · « **Reply #56 on:** October 06, 2015, 04:41:30 PM »

Quote from: oldgolds on October 06, 2015, 01:15:15 PM

You are delusional...I would bet that Vince was on drugs himself....Haven't you learned that bodybuilders are compulsive liars? and I've been in Vince's Gym, back in 1975.

Sounds like you are senile if you think for one moment that Vince was on drugs or trained drug users.
I'm guessing Vince threw you out of his gym and you have been bitter ever since. You obviously know nothing about what went on in the 1970's in California.

Disgusted · « **Reply #57 on:** October 06, 2015, 05:18:41 PM »

Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 03, 2015, 07:44:09 PM

what I said is true, to say anything else is to disrespect Vince's memory.
All you young pups think you cant build muscle without drugs but Vince proved this wrong with Mohamed and Larry.

Haha even though you're trolling Mohamed admitted to using steroids and diuretics back when Vince was training him.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #58 on:** October 06, 2015, 08:11:17 PM »

Quote from: Disgusted on October 06, 2015, 05:18:41 PM

Haha even though you're trolling Mohamed admitted to using steroids and diuretics back when Vince was training him.

What does it even matter. Vince is irrelevant today. The sport has moved on. His physique was skinny and sucked. By 1980 he was irrelevant except as a crank. And if he was going to have a natural only gym, it would be filled with people who couldn't win a local show today.

The Abdominal Snoman · « **Reply #59 on:** October 06, 2015, 09:07:42 PM »

BIG AL MCKECHNIE · « **Reply #60 on:** October 07, 2015, 02:25:33 AM »

Quote from: Disgusted on October 06, 2015, 05:18:41 PM

Haha even though you're trolling Mohamed admitted to using steroids and diuretics back when Vince was training him.

I remember Vince got Mohamed into shape drug free for the NY night of the champions around 1982 and then matched him pose for pose from the audience in a bizarre vodka fuelled performance complete with fringed cowboy jacket.

One things for sure, Vince got Mohammed into the best drug free condition of anyone at that time.

oldgolds · « **Reply #61 on:** October 07, 2015, 08:04:21 AM »

You cannot be serious....No one is that naive...

Disgusted · « **Reply #62 on:** October 07, 2015, 08:58:20 AM »

Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 07, 2015, 02:25:33 AM

I remember Vince got Mohamed into shape drug free for the NY night of the champions around 1982 and then matched him pose for pose from the audience in a bizarre vodka fuelled performance complete with fringed cowboy jacket.

One things for sure, Vince got Mohammed into the best drug free condition of anyone at that time.

Actually you are correct in Mohammed's "claim" to be drug free during the NY NOC. He admits to using steroids before and after that and for the 83 Olympia. He also admits to using diuretics. It's safe to say that his mass was built through years of training and drug use.

Donny · « **Reply #63 on:** October 07, 2015, 09:03:34 AM »

Quote from: Slik on October 05, 2015, 06:54:13 AM

ha! I never knew there was a history board. Thx!

A Great Board

BIG AL MCKECHNIE · « **Reply #64 on:** October 07, 2015, 09:15:53 AM »

Quote from: Disgusted on October 07, 2015, 08:58:20 AM

Actually you are correct in Mohammed's "claim" to be drug free during the NY NOC.

Thank you for the validation. "Oldgolds" seems like a jealous hater of Vince.

Thespritz0 · « **Reply #65 on:** October 07, 2015, 10:44:17 AM »

This should answer all the doubters:

funk51 · « **Reply #66 on:** October 07, 2015, 10:56:24 AM »

Quote from: Thespritz0 on October 07, 2015, 10:44:17 AM

This should answer all the doubters:

Straw Man · « **Reply #67 on:** October 07, 2015, 11:26:39 AM »

Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 07, 2015, 09:15:53 AM

Thank you for the validation. "Oldgolds" seems like a jealous hater of Vince.

you seem like a delusional teenager

Donny · « **Reply #68 on:** October 07, 2015, 11:28:17 AM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on October 06, 2015, 08:11:17 PM

What does it even matter. Vince is irrelevant today. The sport has moved on. His physique was skinny and sucked. By 1980 he was irrelevant except as a crank. And if he was going to have a natural only gym, it would be filled with people who couldn't win a local show today.

Vince Gironda was by all accounts arrogant.cocky and down right an asshole. I never got the chance to speak to him but Bob Kennedy. Bob did say he never understood his moods. Also said maybe because he never won a titel. This he said but also he explained why Gironda hated squats and Flat Benches. Gironda was not wrong in his theory in chest training. legs...i disagree somewhat

funk51 · « **Reply #69 on:** October 07, 2015, 11:56:23 AM »

Quote from: Donny on October 07, 2015, 11:28:17 AM

Vince Gironda was by all accounts arrogant.cocky and down right an asshole. I never got the chance to speak to him but Bob Kennedy. Bob did say he never understood his moods. Also said maybe because he never won a titel. This he said but also he explained why Gironda hated squats and Flat Benches. Gironda was not wrong in his theory in chest training. legs...i disagree somewhat

robert kennedy exposing the truth of the fake weights used in many of v-gyms pics...

Donny · « **Reply #70 on:** October 07, 2015, 12:02:49 PM »

Bob Kennedy i did like. Was very down to earth and friendly. A Real British Gentleman.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #71 on:** October 07, 2015, 01:55:05 PM »

Never met him or saw him on vid.
From the pictures he comes off as a huge ego maniac which started looking very sick in later years. On the other hand, maybe, he quickly cut through all the bullshit and delivered some good insight... I do not know.
Btw, the fake weights are retarded.

BIG AL MCKECHNIE · « **Reply #72 on:** October 07, 2015, 02:50:21 PM »

Quote from: Thespritz0 on October 07, 2015, 10:44:17 AM

This should answer all the doubters:

That old dude doesn't know what he's talking about. Larry took steroids after he left Vince's and used them for his comeback in 1979 but without Vince's techniques he didn't make it. As for being a physical wreck like the old man is implying, well Larry looked great up to the last year or two before he died. That old black guy looks like he's never seen a weight in his life.

funk51 · « **Reply #73 on:** October 07, 2015, 03:22:29 PM »

Quote from: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 07, 2015, 02:50:21 PM

That old dude doesn't know what he's talking about. Larry took steroids after he left Vince's and used them for his comeback in 1979 but without Vince's techniques he didn't make it. As for being a physical wreck like the old man is implying, well Larry looked great up to the last year or two before he died. That old black guy looks like he's never seen a weight in his life.

i think he saw a few , he used to train with tom sansone till leroy almost ripped his foot off in a motorcycle accident..... sansone early death was blamed on steroid abuse.... whether it was or not is debatable.

BIG AL MCKECHNIE · « **Reply #74 on:** October 07, 2015, 05:35:02 PM »

Funk I think you will find that the picture of the black guy you posted is a young Sergio Oliva when he had hair. It's certainly not the old rambling guy in that video.