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McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« on: October 08, 2015, 10:00:09 AM »
Well that was unexpected.  It's wide open now.

McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
Published October 08, 2015
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House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, the front-runner to replace John Boehner, stunned his Republican colleagues on Thursday by withdrawing from the race -- a decision that will postpone the vote for speaker.

Fox News is told McCarthy simply said it was not his time. McCarthy faced opposition from some conservative members and groups, but was thought to have more than enough support to win the party's nomination in the vote initially set for Thursday.

It's unclear what specifically made McCarthy change his mind and drop out.

The shocking decision came shortly after House Republicans met to select their nominee for speaker. McCarthy was running against Reps. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, and Daniel Webster, R-Fla., before he dropped out.

He gave no indication of dropping out earlier in the day. "It's going to go great," McCarthy said Thursday morning.

Webster, though, has won favor with the conservative wing of the party. Wednesday evening, the House Freedom Caucus -- with its 30-40 members -- decided it would back Webster as a bloc.

Whoever ultimately is chosen by Republicans would need to muster an absolute majority, of roughly 218 members, to win in the full floor vote, which had been set for Oct. 29 originally.

The speaker's race already has seen several curveballs since Boehner suddenly announced his retirement at the end of the month and McCarthy swiftly positioned himself as the presumptive next in line.

Shortly after announcing his candidacy, McCarthy was seen to stumble in a Fox News interview where he appeared to link Hillary Clinton's dropping poll numbers to the congressional Benghazi committee. His comments fueled Democratic charges that the committee is merely political, which GOP leaders deny.

Amid the backlash over McCarthy's Benghazi remarks, Chaffetz entered the leadership race over the weekend.

Republicans have nearly 250 members in the House and on paper have the numbers to win against the Democrats' nominee, likely Nancy Pelosi. But if the winning Republican nomineecomes out with a tally short of 218, he or she will have to spend the next several weeks trying to rally support to get to that number.

In a curious development, Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., also sent a letter to House Republican Conference Chairwoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., urging a full vetting of all leadership candidates to avoid a repeat of 1998, when the conference selected then-Rep. Bob Livingston in November to succeed outgoing House Speaker Newt Gingrich. It then emerged Livingston had been conducting an affair. Jones asked that any candidate who has committed "misdeeds" withdraw.

Asked by FoxNews.com to elaborate, Jones said he doesn't "know anything" specific about any of the candidates, but, "We need to be able to say without reservation that 'I have nothing in my background that six months from now could be exposed to the detriment of the House of Representatives.'" He said he wants to make sure the candidates have "no skeletons."

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2015, 10:03:21 AM »
Wel that was unexpected.  It's wide open now.


Internal pressure on home - after trying to take credit for hilary's servergate polling slide as a result of his highly expensive, zero results Benghazi investigation which is now the longest running investigation in US history...

Plus every time he spoke, he just sounded worse and worse.  Making up words.  And he wanted to be 2 heartbeats away from the presidency?   Give the job to Chaffertz, a real hero, a true conservative with a BRAIN.  I've been posting about Chaffertz for years now - the dude had the BALLS to yell for impeachment when most repubs just drank their Jeb Kool-Aid and dismissed the idea.

Mccarthy... ugh, palin all over again.

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 10:16:33 AM »
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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 10:37:29 AM »
Internal pressure on home - after trying to take credit for hilary's servergate polling slide as a result of his highly expensive, zero results Benghazi investigation which is now the longest running investigation in US history...

Plus every time he spoke, he just sounded worse and worse.  Making up words.  And he wanted to be 2 heartbeats away from the presidency?   Give the job to Chaffertz, a real hero, a true conservative with a BRAIN.  I've been posting about Chaffertz for years now - the dude had the BALLS to yell for impeachment when most repubs just drank their Jeb Kool-Aid and dismissed the idea.

Mccarthy... ugh, palin all over again.

I'll bet it was rough when you found out she was dead on about just about everything she said. Same with Romney. Even more dead on than her.

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 11:48:53 AM »
I'll bet it was rough when you found out she was dead on about just about everything she said. Same with Romney. Even more dead on than her.

Right about everything except how to win a fuggin' election.   Her and romney both.  Sickening that it's 2015, and you're defending a 2008 quarter-wit (palin) and a democrat that ran as a 47% repub in 2012 (Romney).

Shit man, don't you have a robbery-foiling Carson, or maybe a "I'm a dem that hates brown people" Trump to support/defend?

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 12:56:53 PM »
Please explain this?

I have honestly not seen anything correct about either one of them... You mean Romney said Russia was our biggest enemy? Apparently how the global economy works is lost on a lot of people... Russia included.

You have to be able to hear the dog whistle for idiots in order for it to make sense.

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 01:20:41 PM »
I'll bet it was rough when you found out she was dead on about just about everything she said. Same with Romney. Even more dead on than her.

The only thing Romney is dead on is his wife :D

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2015, 06:36:22 AM »
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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2015, 08:52:51 AM »
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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2015, 09:36:51 AM »
Conservatives Eye the Speakership
Posted on October 9, 2015
by Keith Koffler

Rep. Kevin McCarthy’s shocking decision Thursday to drop out of the race for speaker presents conservatives with a perhaps once-in-a-generation chance to truly seize power in the House.

Having taken Speaker John Boehner’s scalp and now McCarthy’s, too, conservatives are in the driver’s seat, and everybody knows it.

From many accounts, McCarthy, of California, was derailed when some 40 House conservatives declared they would support another candidate, leaving the expected speaker-to-be without the 218 votes he would have needed to win in a full House vote.

That conservative faction is now calling the shots, and it has some clear demands: No speaker will be tolerated who will:

Sit by while millions are spent by business groups to oust conservatives in primaries;
Go behind the caucus’s back to negotiate legacy-buffing budget deals with President Barack Obama;
Refuse to face with the White House over principle, or who quakes at the thought of shutting down the government.
Conservatives want the next speaker to be much more aggressive than Boehner — and, it turns out, McCarthy.

“They want a speaker who is going to go toe-to-toe with this president,” said Tony Perkins, president of the conservative Family Research Council. “They don’t expect to win all the time. But they want them to fight.”

Here is a look at some of the leading possibilities for the top House post, in order of their rankings, by two conservative organizations, Heritage (H) and FreedomWorks (FW), based on votes in the current congressional session. The caucus must choose a candidate before the scheduled full House vote Oct. 29.

Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio H: 96 percent; FW: 100 percent. The chairman of the conservative House Freedom Caucus has declined to run previously but could change his mind with McCarthy out. Appearing on “The Laura Ingraham Show” on Thursday before McCarthy’s announcement, Jordan said it is vital for the leadership to change. “The case we gotta make is the one the American people are making. When you have 60 percent of your voters — your voters, Republican voters — who think we’ve betrayed them. Not disappointed, not slightly off track — betrayed them. Then we had better figure this out. We had better start standing for the things that we told them we would stand for.”

Rep. Jeb Hensarling of Texas H: 85 percent; FW: 91 percent. The seven-term congressman previously had taken his name out of the running for speaker. But one congressional aide said Hensarling could potentially be a “bridge” candidate who could unite the various factions of the caucus. The Financial Services Committee chairman has been a sometimes Boehner antagonist and is a former chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee.

Rep. Tom Price of Georgia H: 80 percent; FW: 91 percent. Mentioned as a potential speaker candidate after Boehner’s announced his resignation, he had been locking up support for his planned run for majority leader. With McCarthy now remaining in that role, though, Price could decide to make a move for speaker. He told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Thursday that an interim speaker may be the way to go. “The best course would be for us to select a candidate for Speaker who will serve in that capacity for the next 15 months,” he said in a statement. “This would allow the House to complete the business in a responsible manner, providing ample time for everyone’s voices to be heard, leading into full leadership elections in November of 2016.”

Rep. Pete Sessions of Texas H: 79 percent; FW: 91 percent. The Rules Committee chairman had been running for whip. He could decide to go for the top job instead.

Jason Chaffetz of Utah H: 81 percent; FW: 82 percent. The chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee publicly declared himself an underdog when he launched his bid for speaker on Sunday and bluntly admitted that he did not have the votes to win. But that was then. With McCarthy out, Chaffetz’s odds presumably improve somewhat. Still, his bid still must be considered a long shot. The Americans for Legal Immigration political action committee accuses him flip-flopping on the issue of citizenship for illegal immigrants. He told reporters after McCarthy’s withdrawal that he believes it is time for a “fresh start” in Congress, According to USA Today. “That was the whole genesis of my campaign, but we need to have a lot more family discussion, because we need to find somebody that our whole body can unite behind and do what we were elected to do.”

Daniel Webster of Florida H: 77 percent; FW: 73 percent. He had been gearing up for a run against Boehner and now seeks the position on changed political terrain. Webster, a three-term representative and former speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, promises to move power from a handful of men and women in the leadership to the rank and file.

Rep. Steve Scalise of Louisiana H: 60 percent; FW: 73 percent. The current whip, Scalise was another candidate for majority leader. With Boehner retiring and McCarthy bowing out of the race to succeed him, that would leave Scalise next in line based on House leadership hierarchy. Of course, that could also hurt him. Among some representatives, anyone associated with Boehner may be tainted, and Scalise voted on Sept. 30 for a temporary spending measure that kept Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer support intact.

Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin H: 57 percent; FW: 18 percent. He says he doesn’t want it, that he has a young family and wants to be with them, but that didn’t stop him from running for vice president. He was all the buzz after McCarthy dropped out, and the pressure on him is intense to change his mind. Many think he is the best possibility for uniting the caucus, having credibility with both conservatives and the establishment wing. Signs as of Thursday evening were that he is considering a run — or at least seriously mulling it.

The establishment is looking more and more desperate. And there’s an important parallel here to the presidential race. The establishment put all of its chips on McCarthy, and then when it became clear that McCarthy couldn’t get the votes, the establishment is left trying to scramble for Plan B. Meanwhile, that same establishment has put more than $100 million on former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who — like McCarthy — is a highly flawed candidate.

Wouldn’t it be smarter for the establishment to change course on Bush now, instead of waiting until it finds itself facing yet another eleventh-hour crisis?

This piece first appeared in PoliZette.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2015/10/09/conservatives-eye-speakership/

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2015, 09:38:31 AM »
GOP Urging Paul Ryan to Run for Speaker

Image: GOP Urging Paul Ryan to Run for Speaker (Getty Images)
By Greg Richter   
Thursday, 08 Oct 2015

The conservative and establishment wings both like him, but Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan so far has insisted he won't be running for House speaker – even after the abrupt withdrawal of Kevin McCarthy on Thursday.

CNN reports that Ryan could be changing his mind, though he has made no public comment in that direction as of Thursday night.

Among the top names hoping Ryan will run are outgoing Speaker John Boehner and McCarthy himself.

Ryan still has small children at home and returns to Wisconsin every weekend to be with them and his wife. The speaker's job would be much more demanding and time-consuming and might not allow for that.

Also, Ryan enjoys his job as chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee. He'd have to give that up to become speaker.

"While I am grateful for the encouragement I've received, I will not be a candidate," Ryan said soon after McCarthy's shock announcement that he was dropping out. McCarthy, the current majority leader, was considered the favorite until he bumbled a line on Fox News last week that many took to mean he was saying the Benghazi committee was established to hurt Hillary Clinton's presidential race.

Even before that, McCarthy's support among the tea party wing was weak. He was having trouble getting together the 218 votes needed to secure the speakership.

Ryan, on the other hand, has supporters across the spectrum. He was a volunteer for Boehner's campaign long before he entered politics himself and the two remain friends.

"He's seen as an individual who has broad support across the entire conference. He’s a clear thinker and great communicator,"Rep. Tom Price, chairman of the House Budget Committee, told The Daily Beast.

Benghazi committee chairman Trey Gowdy also is said to be twisting Ryan's arm, but said it might not be easy.

"You cannot sell someone on this, you have to persuade them. And the people who persuade you the most in life are people who you think have your best interests in mind. So that’s why you talk to friends," Gowdy told the Daily Beast. "You have to have a frank, honest conversation about where he is in life and what the expectations for that job are right now."

Rep. David Nunes told Buzzfeed's Tarini Parti that Ryan is "the only path forward at this point."

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/republicans-urge-paul-ryan-run/2015/10/08/id/695386/#ixzz3o5bo29zN

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2015, 09:54:44 AM »
that'd be a bad move for paul ryan.  he can be president in 8 years.  the GOP congress is a slow mo dumpster fire.  Screw that. 

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2015, 10:19:49 AM »
that'd be a bad move for paul ryan.  he can be president in 8 years.  the GOP congress is a slow mo dumpster fire.  Screw that. 

I agree..I wouldn't want to get involved in spending my time fighting with Tea Party sycophants all day long for 8 years until I'm ready to run..and if a Dem wins the presidency, the Repubs won't be able to get anything done again

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2015, 12:46:15 PM »
Dirty tricks.

DHS investigating Wikipedia edits citing alleged McCarthy affair
Published October 09, 2015
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The Department of Homeland Security has launched an investigation into reports that someone with a DHS IP address edited Wikipedia pages to include references to an alleged affair involving House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy, who bowed out of the race for speaker Thursday.

The California Republican stunned the conference with his decision, saying the House needs a "fresh face" to lead and suggesting he could not unite conservatives.

But reports of infidelity on conservative websites hung over the decision, and were cited in apparent revisions to Wikipedia pages.

Washington Free Beacon reporter Lachlan Markay first noted on Twitter that "someone using a DHS IP address" made the edits to Rep. Renee Ellmers' Wikipedia page. The Daily Caller noted a similar edit was made to McCarthy's page, referencing a report by controversial conservative writer Charles Johnson on an alleged affair between the two.

DHS spokeswoman Marsha Catron told Fox News the edits are being investigated.

"DHS has immediately launched an investigation into this serious matter. If it is discovered that a DHS employee, using Government property, is responsible for these alleged actions, immediate and appropriate disciplinary action will be taken," she said in a statement.

Ellmers, in a meeting Friday morning, reportedly thanked fellow Republicans for their support, referencing the rumors. In a statement, Ellmers said: "As someone who has been targeted by completely false accusations and innuendo, I have been moved by the outpouring of support and prayers from my colleagues, constituents and friends. Now I will be praying for those who find it acceptable to bear false witness."

McCarthy also appeared to downplay the reports Thursday, shortly after telling colleagues he was withdrawing from the speaker race.

"No, No. Come on," McCarthy said, when asked about the rumors and a mysterious letter from another colleague.

That letter, sent earlier this week by Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., to House Republican Conference Chairwoman Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., urged a full vetting of all leadership candidates to avoid a repeat of 1998, when the conference selected then-Rep. Bob Livingston in November to succeed outgoing House Speaker Newt Gingrich. It then emerged Livingston had been conducting an affair. Jones asked that any candidate who has committed "misdeeds" withdraw.

Pressed repeatedly in interviews by FoxNews.com and Fox News, Jones would not elaborate in any significant detail.

He told FoxNews.com he doesn't think his letter prompted McCarthy to bow out, but also said of his decision: "There's something there that I don't know about."

He hinted, though, his letter was not aimed at the other two candidates running for speaker at the time, Reps. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, and Daniel Webster, R-Fla. Asked if he had reservations about them, given that his letter called for a leader of "integrity," he told FoxNews.com: "I think they both are men of high integrity. I would have no problem."

Ellmers primary rival Kay Daly referenced the Jones letter in a strange Facebook post after McCarthy dropped out.

The Huffington Post also reported Thursday that McCarthy was sent an email from a conservative activist threatening to reveal an alleged affair.

The subject line reportedly said: "Kevin, why not resign like Bob Livingston?"

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/09/dhs-investigating-wikipedia-edits-citing-alleged-mccarthy-affair/?intcmp=hpbt3

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2015, 06:08:38 PM »
McCarthy must have some skeletons poorly hidden in his closet. Ryan would be a suitable speaker but if he doesn't hit a home run his opportunity to run for president in the future will be gone.

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2015, 11:11:08 PM »
it was another repub that accused him of sticking his weiner in the no-fly zone, wasn't it?

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2015, 04:37:47 PM »
So another person involved now says it was a partisan attack on Clinton and not a unbiased investigation.

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The GOP is a joke at this point.

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2015, 04:55:17 PM »
Webster Backer Jolly: Ryan 'Could Get Unanimous Vote'
Monday, 12 Oct 2015
 
Florida Congressman David Jolly, an unabashed supporter of Rep. Daniel Webster for Speaker of the House, admitted on Newsmax TV on Monday that only Paul Ryan could get unanimous support to replace John Boehner.

“Paul Ryan is an incredible leader in our party," Jolly said on Newsmax Now. "he's an intellectual giant. He can carry the message on behalf of Republicans. Paul Ryan is one candidate who possibly could get to a unanimous vote in the speaker's race. I don't believe anybody else in Congress can do that today."

House Republicans have been in chaos since current Speaker John Boehner's stunning Sept. 25 announcement that he would step down at the end of October. His top lieutenant, Kevin McCarthy, was expected to replace him, but suddenly backed out last week.

Ryan, a former Republican vice-presidential nominee, has so far resisted calls for him to enter the speaker race. Two others are already in it: Webster and Utah Rep. Jason Chaffetz, who has said he would drop out if Ryan jumps in.

Texas Rep. Bill Flores said Monday he will run for speaker of the House if Ryan, does not run.

"Paul has some very difficult decisions to make," Jolly told Newsmax TV. "Paul cares deeply about being home with his family. The pressure is going to build on Paul Ryan over the next week or two. I joke he should throw a cell phone in Lake Michigan because it's going to be raining a lot until he makes a decision."

With no Ryan in the mix, Jolly said he will continue to support Webster.

“Dan Webster and I have spoken about how we can achieve conservative victories while forever taking off the table the threat of a government shutdown and the leverage the president has when we get to Sept. 30th,” Jolly, a Florida Republican, told Newsmax TV's John Bachman.

“We have failed to legislate in Congress. We will accomplish far more for conservative policy goals if we get back to legislation.

“Dan Webster is the guy to do that. You know what I believe right now? We don't need a speaker to be the face of the party.”

That’s because, Jolly explained, the nation is gearing up for the 2016 presidential election.

“Our nominee will be the face of the party, will be the messenger for the party,” he said.

“We need a speaker of the House that simply governs and achieves results on behalf of the American people by governing.”

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/david-jolly-paul-ryan-daniel-webster-dan-webster/2015/10/12/id/695840/#ixzz3oOv1bS9a

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2015, 05:16:44 PM »
LOL @ idiots that believed this incompetent fool was ready for such a respected office.

This kind of low standards could give Trump the nomination.

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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2015, 07:14:47 PM »
LOL @ idiots that believed this incompetent fool was ready for such a respected office.

This kind of low standards could give Trump the nomination.

Well, they did give us the Michael Steele experiment too....

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2015, 07:32:24 PM »
Well, they did give us the Michael Steele experiment too....

Steele was Trump BEFORE Trump was trump lol.    He goaded the repubs into believing inept mccain and hapless Palin were awesome choices for presidency.  Then he leaves the job after botching his job, and becomes a highly paid MSNBC talking head ;)   LMAO, it's teh reverse trump, who was paid 214 million by NBC BEFORE he decided to embarrass the GOP this year.

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2015, 09:34:44 AM »
Ryan nears decision on speaker’s race as Congress returns

Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) presides over a committee hearing on Capitol Hill. (Manuel Balce Ceneta/AP)
By Robert Costa and Mike DeBonis
October 20, 2015

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is more open than ever to becoming the next House speaker, following a contemplative week at home with his family. But before he makes a final decision, friends say, he will seek assurance from Republican hard-liners that he will have their full support should he win the gavel.

Those discussions will begin Tuesday evening at the Capitol when House Republicans gather for a closed meeting. It is unclear when Ryan, the 45-year-old chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee and 2012 vice-presidential nominee, will openly discuss his intentions.

At the top of Ryan’s list, his associates said, is a desire to lead the House GOP as its spokesman and agenda-setter without the threat of revolt from the right, halting a dynamic that has dominated the tumultuous speakership of John A. Boehner (R-Ohio), who announced last month that he would leave Congress at the end of October. Another aim would be to delegate some of the job’s travel and fundraising demands so that Ryan could spend enough time with his wife and school-aged children.

“My only caution is that he should go very slow and make sure that the whole conference is coming to him,” said former House speaker Newt Gingrich (R). “Don’t underestimate the degree of getting chewed up. We are not like the Democrats right now. They are relatively cohesive. . . . We are a movement in enormous ferment, with enormous anger and enormous impatience.”

Looming over Ryan’s deliberations is a churning frustration among Republicans nationally about the party’s ability to oppose President Obama and a presidential primary field led by anti-establishment outsiders who have made common cause with the House GOP’s right flank.

Those conservative House members have pushed for a suite of rules changes, ranging from an overhaul of the party’s internal steering committee to a more open process for considering legislation. Ryan, they say, would not be exempt from those demands, which, if adopted, could give the new speaker less control.

Ryan’s allies say his conditions for becoming speaker are likely to include an understanding that he would have a free hand to lead without a constant fear of intraparty reprisals.

“He is more confident that he can put forward conditions that will soothe his convictions and put his mind at ease,” said William J. Bennett, a longtime mentor to Ryan who has spoken with him in recent days.

Peter Wehner, a former adviser to President George W. Bush, said Ryan wants House conservatives to make clear that they would not seek to “cripple him” from the start.

“He doesn’t have a moral obligation to get Republicans out of the rubble they’ve created for themselves,” Wehner said. “Asking for their goodwill is completely reasonable.”

Wehner added that Ryan envisions his possible speakership as one that would be buoyed by his own political capital and shaped by an aggressive Republican policy agenda, rather than one consumed with catering to the whims of tea party back-benchers: “He’s got a vision for the party that he can articulate. He knows policy, philosophy, and where the party should go intellectually.”

But Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.), a member of the hard-line House Freedom Caucus who has expressed measured support for Ryan as speaker, said Ryan could not expect to unify Republicans without making some procedural concessions.

“The displeasure with the way the House has been managed since 2011 is pervasive and crosses all sorts of philosophical boundaries within the party,” Mulvaney said. “The appetite for a new way of doing business is real, and whoever wants to be the speaker is going to have to speak to that.”

Leaving Washington before last week’s recess, most lawmakers hailed Ryan as the only candidate who could unite a House Republican majority deeply divided over how to best wield its power. That has been complicated by a week of activist politicking — on talk radio, on conservative web sites, and in town hall meetings — that has sought to cast doubt on Ryan’s conservative bona fides.

His purported apostasies include supporting the Troubled Asset Relief Program during the 2008 economic crisis, brokering a spending deal with Democrats in 2013 and — most crucially — being a leading Republican proponent of immigration reform packages that would give illegal immigrants a path to legal status.


“There are people who have sort of bought the narrative that the speaker’s race is about trying to get someone who is more conservative, and for those folks Paul is not acceptable,” Mulvaney said. “But there are other folks who believe, and this is what I’ve been telling them, that it’s not about people, it’s about process.”

A new poll released Monday by NBC News and The Wall Street Journal showed strong support for Ryan among Republican primary voters, with 63 percent “comfortable and positive” about Ryan taking over the post. Twenty-eight percent said they would feel “skeptical and uncertain” if he became speaker.

Should Ryan decide not to heed the calls to run, it would set off a free-for-all that has already attracted roughly a dozen potential candidates who have expressed interest in running if Ryan does not.

They range from powerful committee chairmen such Homeland Security’s Michael McCaul and Agriculture’s K. Michael Conaway, both of Texas, to Darrell Issa (Calif.), the high-profile former Oversight chairman to up-and-comers such as Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.), who has played a lead role in the GOP’s recent fight against Planned Parenthood.

But many Republicans believe — or at least hope — that melee will be avoided as Ryan has shifted from being averse to inclined to succeed Boehner, due to a wave of encouragement from officials and influential conservatives, as well as a sense of duty to his embattled party.

Brendan Buck, Ryan’s spokesman, said Monday that Ryan did not yet have anything to announce. “Congressman Ryan spent the weekend at home with his family. There is no update, and he looks forward to listening to and speaking with his colleagues this week,” Buck said in a statement.

House Republicans will convene Tuesday in the Capitol basement for a conference meeting focused on the “October agenda.” According to a GOP memo, dinner will be served and staffers will not be allowed in the room. They will meet again Wednesday morning.

Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa), a Freedom Caucus member who is backing longshot speaker candidate Rep. Daniel Webster (R-Fla.), sighed Monday when he heard about the previously unscheduled session, and said it signaled that the leadership was ready to get behind one of their own.

“This indicates they are at least close to presenting a successor to the conference, in an attempt to get momentum for that person,” King said. “There is an effort out there to talk Ryan out of stepping up, but he may be ready to present himself.”

Gingrich said that if Ryan does decide to seek the speaker’s gavel, he will learn quickly — and encounter early problems.

“It’ll take him about six weeks to go from being a policy guy to a process guy and he’ll be very good at it. But it’s a different world with a different set of rules. That’s what he has to think through: Is that really a world he wants to be in the middle of? Is he willing to endure the scarring?”

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2015, 11:32:33 AM »
Well those so called Young Guns turned out to be duds.  Firing blanks.  Cantor got run off.  McCarthy just got emasculated.  Ryan...  HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How the hell you going to lead the country when you can't even find someone to lead your own party?

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Re: McCarthy withdraws from speaker race, vote postponed
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2015, 01:04:48 PM »
nobody wants that job


RINOs in congress just want to endorse big budget and amnesty.
Tea parties in congress just want to stonewall everything and pass 500 wedge bills.

Nobody wants to manage that clusterfck.