Have you tried this? Suppose to be available in the fall(now). My brother swears by it but I can't find it...

Only tried their Torpedo IPA. Very piny, like Sculpin (Ballast Point), probably
too hoppy for me. I've never even seen these two SNs, are they new?
I'm good with their pale. Mirror Pond (Deschutes), Figueroa Mountain, Firestone, and Stone all make good ones, too, just harder to find.