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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2015, 11:00:05 AM »
have you tried it yet? I wonder if this shit works
cjc dac does work, but its only noticable at 4mg+ a week imo, which is way too expensive if youre not in the US where you can get the shit cheap

i made the thread 2 days ago so obviously havent tried MK yet  :D

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2015, 12:02:10 PM »
Have you ever done dnp? Off topic but whatever

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2015, 01:00:45 PM »
yes, hell on earth and you look like complete garbage on it
worse than high dose t3
also absolutely zero energy on the shit, feel like markus rühl after walking up a flight of stairs

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2015, 01:45:47 PM »
I've been clean a while, something like this sounds very attractive at the moment... Might be worth looking into.

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2015, 02:31:33 PM »
read up on CJC DAC... youre talking about GHRH/GHRP combo... cjc dac is much differnet. long half life

Oops I meant to ask did u do all 4mg subQ once weekly post workout? Wanted to know your
Protocol for cjc dac? I tried it at 5mg post workout subQ on mon/thur with great results.. Just wanted to see how you utilized it

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2015, 02:45:11 PM »
Oops I meant to ask did u do all 4mg subQ once weekly post workout? Wanted to know your
Protocol for cjc dac? I tried it at 5mg post workout subQ on mon/thur with great results.. Just wanted to see how you utilized it
doesnt matter at all when you pin it...i think i pinned 2mg twice a week pre bed. it basically gives no instant effects, just a very small pulse right after injection. the true effects are longer lasting (7 day half life). more than 2mg can feel unfortable though


i also used huperzine A daily for further somatostatin inhibition (which ill do too when on MK677)

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2015, 09:44:37 AM »
alright, took first dose today. 200mcg huperzine A a day too.

ill run about 12mg a day for the next xx weeks, depending on how i like it.
first effect was being hungry as fuck and very sleepy about 2 hours after taking the first dose, even though i had just eaten with it.
it also takes like ass. like leucine powder, just 100x more intense, disgusting.
i put it under my tongue and hold it since thats supposed to increase absorption vs swallowing it...
the things you do...

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2015, 10:35:24 AM »
alright, took first dose today. 200mcg huperzine A a day too.

ill run about 12mg a day for the next xx weeks, depending on how i like it.
first effect was being hungry as fuck and very sleepy about 2 hours after taking the first dose, even though i had just eaten with it.
it also takes like ass. like leucine powder, just 100x more intense, disgusting.
i put it under my tongue and hold it since thats supposed to increase absorption vs swallowing it...
the things you do...


It really knocks you out if you take it before bed, which is how I prefer to take it.  Great sleep.   I understand it causes pulses throughout the day, though.   For about the first 4 weeks, I would get real lethargic and sleepy in the afternoons.

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2015, 10:54:13 AM »
It really knocks you out if you take it before bed, which is how I prefer to take it.  Great sleep.   I understand it causes pulses throughout the day, though.   For about the first 4 weeks, I would get real lethargic and sleepy in the afternoons.
studies show higher increases in igf1 levels if you take it in the morning though, thats why ill try that first... i sleep like a baby (and piss just as often) on a gram of tren, so no need for that anyway ;)

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2015, 03:54:21 PM »
I've been on it for about a month.  I notice improved sleep, and (maybe?) slightly better recovery.  I've been taking 25mg/day - I'll probably drop to half that to see if I notice a difference.

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2015, 08:33:13 PM »
I've been on it for about a month.  I notice improved sleep, and (maybe?) slightly better recovery.  I've been taking 25mg/day - I'll probably drop to half that to see if I notice a difference.

I just started this back up at 45mg upon waking up....These are 5mg capsule...very very hungry and affects the blood sugar tremendously at this dosage...I ate breakfast and went to the store and i felt like i was gonna pass out still...Bought 5-6 protein bars and just ate them all...Felt a lot better but i was tired throughout the day..The sides are much more pronounced now...I'll be fine ;)

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2015, 12:09:35 AM »
lmao i got stomach cramps and started sweating profusely yesterday after i mixed the stuff into a liquid for easier dosing... probably spilled a couple mgs and just ate them. might have been too high of a dosage. the hunger afterwards was also bad. i hope this doesnt last all day long lol

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2015, 01:03:28 PM »
What is the reason for the lethargy with mk677?

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2015, 01:21:47 PM »
well GH always makes you sleepy. not sure if its GH levels per se or IGF levels.

could also be related to all GHRPs/GHRHs basically being ghrelin derivatives, ghrelin = hunger hormone.
 too many variables to tell that exactly id say.

ill just log my experiences here
woke up with one hand numb already today, i rarely get this, but on peps it was really bad sometimes.


no stomach cramps today, took my 10mg as planned in the morning.
got really hungry afterwards as i expected (also huge bowel movement a couple mins after my dosage which im used to from GHRP).
had breakfast about half an hour later

today i started feeling REALLY intense hunger pains about 2.5-3 hours after every meal. usually i can go 4 hours and then my appetite (not hunger) hits, however today i felt physical pain from hunger after just 3 hours. had to rely on chewing gum since i keep calories the same and right now im eating every 4 hours and cant stand having smaller meals.

and this is still on a small dosage of sibutramine (since im on a good dose of tren and cant stick to my diet for shit on tren without sibutramine, id be a fat bloated mess within 2 weeks otherwise).


sweating seemed a bit more pronounced throughout the day and during my workout, could be coincidental though.

will update here with anything i notice
so far this could be a godsend for hardgainers or anyone who has problems eating...it seems to make me permahungry just like a good dose of CJC DAC used to do, but i hope this will subside over time.. i never had and never will have any issues getting in enough food anyway

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2015, 01:22:19 PM »
When you sleep you release the majority of your growth hormone when yours is elevated you'll be tired even though it's pulsing through the day it's the same with lethargy from real growth

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2015, 02:38:45 AM »
well GH always makes you sleepy. not sure if its GH levels per se or IGF levels.

could also be related to all GHRPs/GHRHs basically being ghrelin derivatives, ghrelin = hunger hormone.
 too many variables to tell that exactly id say.

ill just log my experiences here
woke up with one hand numb already today, i rarely get this, but on peps it was really bad sometimes.


no stomach cramps today, took my 10mg as planned in the morning.
got really hungry afterwards as i expected (also huge bowel movement a couple mins after my dosage which im used to from GHRP).
had breakfast about half an hour later

today i started feeling REALLY intense hunger pains about 2.5-3 hours after every meal. usually i can go 4 hours and then my appetite (not hunger) hits, however today i felt physical pain from hunger after just 3 hours. had to rely on chewing gum since i keep calories the same and right now im eating every 4 hours and cant stand having smaller meals.

and this is still on a small dosage of sibutramine (since im on a good dose of tren and cant stick to my diet for shit on tren without sibutramine, id be a fat bloated mess within 2 weeks otherwise).


sweating seemed a bit more pronounced throughout the day and during my workout, could be coincidental though.

will update here with anything i notice
so far this could be a godsend for hardgainers or anyone who has problems eating...it seems to make me permahungry just like a good dose of CJC DAC used to do, but i hope this will subside over time.. i never had and never will have any issues getting in enough food anyway

It will go away pretty quickly after about 10 15 days of daily dosing. Expect a lot of water retention especially if you eat a lot  ;D

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2015, 08:23:24 AM »
It will go away pretty quickly after about 10 15 days of daily dosing. Expect a lot of water retention especially if you eat a lot  ;D
thats good to know
ill stick to my diet meticulously, no cheats. if i go over my dailies then ill compensate the next day

ive been bulking on my lowest calories ever and ive been gaining like never before actually. its kinda crazy... 4 weeks in and 12 lbs up and im barely eating above maintenance calories. actually im only averaging an additional 500-600 kcals daily compared to when i was cutting  (counting in my weekly refeed on the cut).
- and i was losing 2lbs a week back then. now im gaining 3lbs a week on less than additional 4000 weekly kcals.


its strange what adding/increasing compounds+slin, switching supps, increasing training volume and carbs and lowering t3 and cardio can do  :o :)

ofc glycogen/water is a big part of it, but simple 1+1 just doesnt apply anymore

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2015, 08:26:30 AM »
where did you get your raws from jiz?

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2015, 08:54:55 AM »
where did you get your raws from jiz?
actually privately from some guy i dont know personally
kind of random
only bought a small fairly cheap amount to test it out though, i think with peps its pretty damn easy to tell if theyre legit or shit, so i wasnt too worried

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2015, 04:40:12 AM »
sooo a little update here... lets say beforehand im bulking and im on test/tren/npp and pre workout slin too.
im running around 12mg of the MK so a very minimal dosage.

im nearly a week in now.
-weight is up 7lbs with zero change in diet. whereas i usually averaged around 3lbs weight gain a week before that (coming straight out of a cut). my weight has been stable for a week before adding in the MK though, so most of that was glycogen and water retention coming back.
was really thirsty the first few days too.
-ofc strength is coming on nicely.
-id say its mostly intramuscular water retention, howevermy midsection looks a bit blurry faster, especially later in the day with a couple meals in. not exactly bloated, but abs are not as deeply carved, start to become little blurry. it actually got better the last 2-3 days so mightve been simply related to how much i was drinking. cotton mouth all day.
-i keep my off day calories extremely low and wake up nice and tight again afterwards, but i never drop weight at all, MK seems to keep you very full
-the much increased hunger has subsided, i feel normal again now.
-i was extremely tired the first 3-4 days, this has subsided aswell. im fine with 8 hours of sleep again and completely rested.
-dreams are a bit more vivid and more sexual (some people say MK killed their libido but it rather seems the opposite to me).
-pumps in the gym are MUCH increased. sometimes to the point of being painful. the MK really increased everything in the pump department. i also get some calf cramps at night here and there, but that could be due to the wicked pump from last leg workout
-my hands are swollen. the area between thumb and index finger especially. i get some CTS at night here and there.


will report back with any further observations.
not sure how this stuff would work on a cut, it would be great to keep you full i guess, but the weight gain from it plus the insane hunger for the first days could be mindfucking

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2015, 05:02:42 PM »
How's it treating u?

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2015, 12:04:29 PM »
well, we had a huge halloween party on saturday and i got forced to drink and smoke (usually dont drink, maybe once every 6-8 weeks, but then its all out lol)

lost control over my eating a bit, gained a shitton of water weight. face looked like a pumpkin on sunday (even worse than it wouldve been without the MK).
muscles looked full as fuck though, not as bloated as i wouldve expected (well, except my midsection from all the food obviously). still a pretty good look, but oh god, my face.

the additional water weight is already dropped as of today though. took 4 days of heavy caloric deficit lol

when i started this bulk about 6 weeks ago i told myself that i would start cutting as soon as i went over 200lbs and well, that pushed me right over so on sunday i started cutting.
i like to stay between 180-200lbs for the most part - more and i get uncomfortable, watery and bloated. less and i get too small and stringy.

this bulk ended up shorter than planned lol but slin and MK makes an incredible combo to put on A TON of weight if thats what youre aiming at (powerlifting anyone?)


im a bit disappointed that i slacked with my diet since i perfectly sticked to my proposed macros without a single slip during the last 6 weeks and my look was pretty damn good throughout...

however it will be interesting to see what MK does with regards to fat loss and muscle retention (there are studies on MK completley alleviating protein loss during periods of caloric deficit)

will be kind of interesting to see if MK keeps me full on lower carbs too.

the hunger sides are completely gone, so thats a good thing. hands still swollen, CTS here and there at night.
 sleep still good. i do need more sleep on lower calories though. dont feel as fresh and energetic.
nothing else to report as of now.

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2015, 01:18:53 PM »
I have used Mk677, Gw-501516, CJC-1295 DAC and no DAC, GHRP-2, Ipamorelin, IGF DES, IGF-1 Lr3 (which supposedly was receptor grade god knows what it really is), Tb500, GHK-CU, Melanotan 2, hgh-frag 176-191 these are from the top of my head. Ostarine and Cardarine are orals, the rest injectable peptides.
From my experience, mk (ostarine) is basically a secratologue similar to ghrp6 in terms of hunger but has a constant release, alot more potent, raises your igf baseline by so much, i think more than any other drug. Pumps are insane, energy levels go down to crap, you will look extremely full and pumped, but you will hold enormous amounts of water, walking with a double ballchini from water... I hate it, because it makes me feel like death, the higher you go in dosage, the worse you feel, but the bigger and hungrier and more pumped you get. Start as low as possible and ramp up slowly, it's very potent so don't rush it unless you want to feel sleepy and unenergized as fk all day all night.
I combined it with dac every 3 days i would shoot up half a vial 2.5mg. The mk never managed to reach 50, its brutal man, highest i been to is 30.
Gw is good stuff, but made me sweat tons, idk, its such a weird drug did 30mg ed though lol.
Ghrp2 good pumps but u desensitize fast, you combine with no dac though. 200mcg ghrp2 with no dac 100mcg (most ull need) 3x a day is good, max 4 but ull desensitize faster. For 3x morning shot 30min before breakfast or right before fastes cardio, prewo for fat loss post for anabolism, and another with the last meal before bed. Give 4 hours between your shots, 3mininmum.
Ipam you will feel less but you can do boom dosages, 500mcg is the start boom dosage. I like it more, ALOT less lethargy. Gives you multiple small pulses throughout 4-6hours. One boom dose upon waking and before bed is perfect, you can add ghrp2 pre or post or ipam. Combine all your shots of ghrps with no dac at 100mcg tops.
Tb meh rather gh.
Mt2 makes me crawl to my fridge, including dac. The hypo feeling is disastrous, feel horrible, you can't even move your limbs you cant even use your arms to eat your disgusting sugar. Mt2 works, glorious effects, but seriously peptides make you look like crap and feel exactly like one. Ghk-cu healed my acne scar wounds super fast. Apart of that, store your unmixed peptide vials in the freezer, mixed ones in the fridge, reconstitute everything with bac water (kills bacteria unlike sterile water), dont shake them swirl them, reconstituted vials in a fridge last from 8 days to 28-36 depending on which one. In the freezer up to 4 years if unreconstituted. You can freeze reconstituted preloaded syringes or vials if you want them lasting longer.
Hope this was good advice.
Hex strongest pulse, than comes GHRP6, than ghrp2 and third generation secratologue Ipamorelin which has no sides when injected in terms of hunger etc, but can cause lethargy.  Hex don't even use, desensitizes you within a week or 2.
Dac no dac are their own category, dac has a half life of 8 days due to the ester attached to it, no dac has no ester so needs to be injected frequently. If you will use dac might as well use mk with it they work hand in hand.
Oh yea and hgh-frag you need to be fasted 2-3 hours before and after injecting it. Optimally upon waking before fasted cardio 250-500mcg asists in releasing fatty acids and burning more fat. Also good prewo and before bed. 1000mcg a day is the most I'd go.
Enjoy

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #48 on: November 08, 2015, 07:58:45 AM »
I have used Mk677, Gw-501516, CJC-1295 DAC and no DAC, GHRP-2, Ipamorelin, IGF DES, IGF-1 Lr3 (which supposedly was receptor grade god knows what it really is), Tb500, GHK-CU, Melanotan 2, hgh-frag 176-191 these are from the top of my head. Ostarine and Cardarine are orals, the rest injectable peptides.
From my experience, mk (ostarine) is basically a secratologue similar to ghrp6 in terms of hunger but has a constant release, alot more potent, raises your igf baseline by so much, i think more than any other drug. Pumps are insane, energy levels go down to crap, you will look extremely full and pumped, but you will hold enormous amounts of water, walking with a double ballchini from water... I hate it, because it makes me feel like death, the higher you go in dosage, the worse you feel, but the bigger and hungrier and more pumped you get. Start as low as possible and ramp up slowly, it's very potent so don't rush it unless you want to feel sleepy and unenergized as fk all day all night.
I combined it with dac every 3 days i would shoot up half a vial 2.5mg. The mk never managed to reach 50, its brutal man, highest i been to is 30.
Gw is good stuff, but made me sweat tons, idk, its such a weird drug did 30mg ed though lol.
Ghrp2 good pumps but u desensitize fast, you combine with no dac though. 200mcg ghrp2 with no dac 100mcg (most ull need) 3x a day is good, max 4 but ull desensitize faster. For 3x morning shot 30min before breakfast or right before fastes cardio, prewo for fat loss post for anabolism, and another with the last meal before bed. Give 4 hours between your shots, 3mininmum.
Ipam you will feel less but you can do boom dosages, 500mcg is the start boom dosage. I like it more, ALOT less lethargy. Gives you multiple small pulses throughout 4-6hours. One boom dose upon waking and before bed is perfect, you can add ghrp2 pre or post or ipam. Combine all your shots of ghrps with no dac at 100mcg tops.
Tb meh rather gh.
Mt2 makes me crawl to my fridge, including dac. The hypo feeling is disastrous, feel horrible, you can't even move your limbs you cant even use your arms to eat your disgusting sugar. Mt2 works, glorious effects, but seriously peptides make you look like crap and feel exactly like one. Ghk-cu healed my acne scar wounds super fast. Apart of that, store your unmixed peptide vials in the freezer, mixed ones in the fridge, reconstitute everything with bac water (kills bacteria unlike sterile water), dont shake them swirl them, reconstituted vials in a fridge last from 8 days to 28-36 depending on which one. In the freezer up to 4 years if unreconstituted. You can freeze reconstituted preloaded syringes or vials if you want them lasting longer.
Hope this was good advice.
Hex strongest pulse, than comes GHRP6, than ghrp2 and third generation secratologue Ipamorelin which has no sides when injected in terms of hunger etc, but can cause lethargy.  Hex don't even use, desensitizes you within a week or 2.
Dac no dac are their own category, dac has a half life of 8 days due to the ester attached to it, no dac has no ester so needs to be injected frequently. If you will use dac might as well use mk with it they work hand in hand.
Oh yea and hgh-frag you need to be fasted 2-3 hours before and after injecting it. Optimally upon waking before fasted cardio 250-500mcg asists in releasing fatty acids and burning more fat. Also good prewo and before bed. 1000mcg a day is the most I'd go.
Enjoy

Very interesting man.

What were your results with MK and CJC DAC together ?
Im interested in IGF1 LR3, do you think its worth it?

Also thinking about doing MK + GHRP2 or ipam for bulking. The weight gain and hunger must be insane.

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Re: MK677 oral GH releaser
« Reply #49 on: November 08, 2015, 01:14:14 PM »
You're not going to find legit IGF from any research company, better to save your money and put it toward GH.