Mustafa vs. Arnold Backstage

[GigantorX]

Again, you miss the point. The "gift" in this context is that some people, myself included, thought that he placed higher than he should. Not the "gift" that you think of it as. As in they gave it to him out of pity or sorrow, or a "thanks for playing" gift. I did not mean it as a handout. And I cannot even fathom where you came up with idea that thats what we were meaning...
  Also, I'm against government handouts, thank you very much. As socialism breads a class of lazy people that have an entitlement mentality. And with that, stop reading into this so much, Medicade, social welfare? We are talking bodybuilding here, and last time I checked, not one judge or person for that matter sees exactly what the other sees in terms of conditioning, muscularity etc. Chill out.

[New York]

Mustafa Muhammad went off on Arnold backstage at the classic.The pair got into a heated discussion in german about the political environment of the show.Mustafa stated that the show was racist and that he got kid's to feed.  Personally , i think Mustafa could have handled it differently. He was probably running on emotion and blew up in front of everyone.

[Stavios]

he is a fucking cry baby.
If he really cared that much about his kids he would have chose another job

[240 is Back]

Dude has balls, ya gotta give him that.

[Johnny Apollo]

Why were they speaking in German?


And where did you hear this from? Who translated it? You?

[Borracho]

I love it when people say that Mustafa's structure is flawed. Thats pretty fucking funny. I mean sure his quads are a little bigger than his upper body, but his upper body is still crazy big. And the fucker still has a sick X frame. Maybe he should just stop training legs all together and that way he'll appeal to a lot of the fags here like Chic putting him down.

Yeah, he has a shitty structure. Fucking hilarious!
Oh but Cutler, (the #2 guy) in the world is so aesthetically appealing. Great structure   

[Borracho]

Anyways, I hope Mustafa bombs the whole row of judges at his next show. 

[rufjunk]

I think at the end of the day we're wasting our time by discussing alleged racism claims...

It seems unfair to me that a Chic offers his opinion on a physique and is bashed because it's not praise worthy. Since when does pointing out flaws in ones' physique presentation personal? It seems like an honest crique made by Bob was turned into a racial prejudice claim.

It's also understandable that MM is upset over his placing, anyone who works that hard to not accomplish their original goals is going to be frusterated, it's unfortunate he took it out on the wrong guy (arnold) and some here vent that same frusteration against Chic.

Just reflect over this issue for 10 seconds, it's stupid. There are more important things than how MM performed in some contest... the idea that MM received a low placing over race is ludicrus.

Also let's assume Chic is gay... what the heck does that have to do with anything? Some people are personally attacking Chic for their own benefit.

[JOHN MATRIX]

maybe he went a bit overboard but its understandable for him to blow off some frustration considering he gets screwed all the time.

[bigdumbbell]

he needs to go win the hungary show and STFU.
does he even have a green card?
240, call the INS

[Ron]

A few minutes after this incident occured, an IFBB official or expeditor comes into the office backstage and says that you are not going to beleive this - that Mustafa came running to Arnold and that the CHP officers also took him down - but Arnold waved the off. He has some pictures from this incident. They did speak in a different language and Mustafa did get into a discussion about how the judges werent treating him fairly. Arnold took it in stride, they took a picture, but Arnold was not happy with the incident.

Two weeks ago, at the Ironman, Mustafa did the same thing, yelling at John Bailik (the promoter) on how he picked the judges from California to screw him. (Like John picked the judges).  

These incident were not cool. Mustafa has every right to complain - no problem with that - but not right after a show to the promoters, coming at them angrily. Not to Arnold, to to John Bailik. I am happy that he has received a letter from the IFBB with a warning, because that shouldn't happy. He if wants to complain, there are many people and press who would give me free reign on what to say - but not right there and then.

Yes - Milos and Mustafa had a disagreement, so Milos is not training him or helping him, as I found out at the Arnold.

Now for the placings - sitting with Isaac (Lift Studios) in the pit - we both pretty much had the same placings for the competitors, plus or minus one up or down. There is no bias - it is how we (or I) saw it from the angle we were sitting.

1) Dexter Jackson
2) Branch Warren
3) Victor Martinez
4) Gustavo Badell
5) Lee Priest
6) Darrem Charles
7) Melvin Anthony
Mustafa Mohammed


Mustafa has nothing to complain about with the judges placings. They actually gave him better than I did, and put Darrem in 8th...

As fir Gustava Badell, when we asked me what I thought after the show - I told him the truth. He looked at me quietly listening - then shook his head - then said to come by and get his new DVD that he just released. In the end, once the pictures are looked upon, people may or may not agree.

But Mustafa shouldn't of done that... it is that simple.

If he had a problem - talk to the judges...

[alexxx]

Mustafa screwed up (like thats something new). He's placings aren't getting any better so now I think it will be even worse.

[bigdumbbell]

if he comes in ripped, he'll be the thickest and best looking massmonster physique onstage.  Lean, he beats the hell outta cutler

he still needs to STFU 

[Stavios]

if he comes in ripped, he'll be the thickest and best looking massmonster physique onstage.  Lean, he beats the hell outta cutler

The thing is.... he never comes in ripped !

[Johnny Apollo]

Where is the pictures then?


Also,It's true that Bob Chic was demoted in the military due to those pictures taken of him? Any sources for this? I don't see how they could legally do such a thing. He could of Sued them.

[Johnny Apollo]

You are really kinda stupid aren't you? This is the second post where you've proven it to me within the past five minutes.

Take two seconds and go to either site and look for yourself. I'm not going to hunt through all 2500 pictures just to satisfy your curiousity. Get someone else to take it up the ass.

You aren't making sense...

What site? What 2,500 pictures?

[Ron]

Some pics of Mustafa from the evening show...


http://www.getbig.com/pics/arnold/2006/finalsmens/mustafa.htm

[rocket]

He doesn't need to shut up, he just needs to be asking the right questions, which are.. how can I improve to get a better placing.  If he's asking those questions already and getting no answers then he's got every right to be angry.

[Milos_Sarcev]

Just to make one thing clear - Mustafa is NOT one of my athletes.
I am also NOT surprised that he acts the way he does...he is showing his TRUE COLORS.

[Scimowser]

Milos, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I know you helped him in the past and recieved a formal warning from the IFBB, but why is it Mustafa cant come in with solid conditioning? You of all people should be able to tell hmi exactly where it is hes going wrong as i know you specialised in conditioning

you have to realise yourself, even though he is a close friend of yours, that he got beter than he deserved. IMO Toney Freeman was screwed alot worse than he was

[Mars]

Maybe he's afraid to end of in a hospital again.

[ether]

"Mustafa is not one of my athletes"

No Shit, Not a trace of synthol on him.

[New York]

"Mustafa is not one of my athletes"

No Shit, Not a trace of synthol on him.

Damn! LOL! And the ref take's a point away.

[Milos_Sarcev]

"Mustafa is not one of my athletes"

No Shit, Not a trace of synthol on him.

Yes, can you believe he didn't even want to try that?

[Milos_Sarcev]

Milos, is that a good thing or a bad thing? I know you helped him in the past and recieved a formal warning from the IFBB, but why is it Mustafa cant come in with solid conditioning? You of all people should be able to tell hmi exactly where it is hes going wrong as i know you specialised in conditioning

you have to realise yourself, even though he is a close friend of yours, that he got beter than he deserved. IMO Toney Freeman was screwed alot worse than he was

First - Mustafa has enormous potential IF he would come READY... but that's probably NEVER going to happen.
He can't diet (cheat constantly) and hates cardio... He would come to me a week before the show (Luke saw him getting of the plane) and he looked fatter than I was at any point of my off season. He started his cardio 7 days out... and did maybe 3 hours total for his whole contest prep.

Dry fat is always going to be fat... but a lot of people will confuse his lack of conditioning and assume that he is "holding water"... Many people told him to put things together (get in good condition) and his placing will dramatically improve. While he constantly complains about his low placings - as many people noticed - he is actually getting gifts lately but cry's about racism... being discriminated... etc, etc

I was sticking up for him after his incident backstage at the 2004 Mr. Olympia - but after I witnessed with my own eyes how Mustafa really is I decided to no longer be associated with him. Going directly to Arnold backstage at ASC to complain about getting a gift (but not the money... and believe me money is THE ONLY THING that matters to him) shows his class (or lack of) and (poor) sportsmanship.