"Were not coming for your guns", except when they are...

[Las Vegas]

Are you saying the end result would be different or not?

You mean the end result of rogues using the military to violate our rights?

There are people right now strategizing ways to make coffee illegal.   Should i be concerned?  No.  People hell bent on making guns illegal?  Should i be concerned?  Not at the moment or any time soon.  

When, then?

Basically what you and tony have seemed to fall prey to standard fear propaganda.  You are even using absolutes to argue it.  

the 2nd amendment is not going to get over turned people.  

Its sad that the republican propaganda machine has resorted into scaring ignorant rednecks.  

OK, it's only "ignorant rednecks" with something to lose.  Keep watching your television and keep getting hypnotized by the lies.

[OzmO]

You mean the end result of rogues using the military to violate our rights?

You know what i mean.

When, then?

When some actual stuff starts happening.

OK, it's only "ignorant rednecks" with something to lose.  Keep watching your television and keep getting hypnotized by the lies.

Totally misread by you.

That's twice in 1 post.   You have reading comprehension issues?


I suspect you are just trolling now or a broderline CT nut.  I was very clear on what i said on both counts in my previous post. Address your mistakes or what ever they are first before we move on.

[Las Vegas]

You know what i mean.

Yes, I'd say so.

When some actual stuff starts happening.

after the fact, you mean?

Totally misread by you.

That's twice in 1 post.   You have reading comprehension issues?


I suspect you are just trolling now or a broderline CT nut.  I was very clear on what i said on both counts in my previous post. Address your mistakes or what ever they are first before we move on.

OK, as long as you understand, then I forgive you.

[OzmO]

Yes, I'd say so.

after the fact, you mean?

OK, as long as you understand, then I forgive you.

 

[chadstallion]

about time.
give everyone a gun.
just charge the bejeezus outta the bullets.

[OzmO]

about time.
give everyone a gun.
just charge the bejeezus outta the bullets.

both are very expensive anyway lol

[Dos Equis]

You know what i mean.


When some actual stuff starts happening.

Totally misread by you.

That's twice in 1 post.   You have reading comprehension issues?


I suspect you are just trolling now or a broderline CT nut.  I was very clear on what i said on both counts in my previous post. Address your mistakes or what ever they are first before we move on.

This is obviously Jack T. Cross.

[OzmO]

This is obviously Jack T. Cross.

Wow!   That's what I was thinking. 

[Dos Equis]

Wow!   That's what I was thinking. 

Yeah.  He denied it, but not that hard to figure out. 

[Las Vegas]

Lol, the anti-gun forces make an anti-argument.

[Las Vegas]

Yeah.  He denied it, but not that hard to figure out. 

Link?

[Las Vegas]

I found it.  Good thread.  (it's the one about Whataburger and the police)

[Dos Equis]

I found it.  Good thread.  (it's the one about Whataburger and the police)

Yep.

Ok.  That explains it.  Thanks. 

Las Vegas/Jack T. Cross:  you were referring to the wrong article. 

Close, but no cigar.

[OzmO]

Even if he isn't, it's the same tired trolling tactic. 

[OzmO]

More on the liberal conspiracy headed by the likes of Hillary Clinton and other government hacks to take away your guns little by little until the 2nd amendment disappears.

http://www.opencarrytexas.org/faq.html

As of Jan. 1 2016 you will be able to open carry firearms in Texas.   Now Texas joins 44 other states that allow open carry and 32 of them who require no registration, permit or license to do so.

Yes, you ignorant rednecks, they are coming to get your guns!  Circle your trailers, there's liberals in dem hills coming to take your freedom away!!!!  Freedoms like being able to not to choose cheaper prescription drugs, welfare, planned parent hood, GMO's, and white presidents not born in Kenya.   

[240 is Back]

I remember ammo and handgun shortages in Dec 2008.  gun store owners were telling us to stock up, the gun bans start in spring 2009.

never really happened, did it?  if anything, idiots like ZImmerman have MORE power to chase and kill under obama's administration.  'stand your ground' is a disaster.  thanks, obama!

[OzmO]

I remember ammo and handgun shortages in Dec 2008.  gun store owners were telling us to stock up, the gun bans start in spring 2009.

never really happened, did it?  if anything, idiots like ZImmerman have MORE power to chase and kill under obama's administration.  'stand your ground' is a disaster.  thanks, obama!

This liberal conspiracy is out of control.  Hold your children close and protect them, but hold your guns closer! 

[TuHolmes]

More on the liberal conspiracy headed by the likes of Hillary Clinton and other government hacks to take away your guns little by little until the 2nd amendment disappears.

http://www.opencarrytexas.org/faq.html

As of Jan. 1 2016 you will be able to open carry firearms in Texas.   Now Texas joins 44 other states that allow open carry and 32 of them who require no registration, permit or license to do so.

Yes, you ignorant rednecks, they are coming to get your guns!  Circle your trailers, there's liberals in dem hills coming to take your freedom away!!!!  Freedoms like being able to not to choose cheaper prescription drugs, welfare, planned parent hood, GMO's, and white presidents not born in Kenya.   

Well, to be fair... It's a backlash against the idea that the 2nd amendment is under attack.

Now, also, let's be clear... While on a national level, Democrats do seem to have it pretty good, on a local level, most localities are Republican.

That's just how it goes. It's good to have a stalemate at times, although it seems as if the President does get to do more of what he wants.

[tonymctones]

I don't have a problem with law that makes illegal to keep a loaded gun in a house with children.  But if there isn't a law like that I really don't have a problem with it either.  You are still a dumbass if you do have loaded gun with kids in the house and should probably spend a day with a parent whose kid hand an accident with one and killed himself or someone else. 

Earlier I ask you what exactly they doing and so far you have given me inaccurate magazine limit that only exists in 8 states and charged that all these laws only help criminals which I have shown isn't true.  And accusations about people's intentions which isn't anything until something is actually done like a law.

Anything else?

How about tha awb ban? Was that not aimed at taking away guns???

So you think that intentions and desires count for nothing until a law is passed?

[tonymctones]

So when they made the seat belts laws those are bits and pieces that eventually will lead to us not being to drive or when they made the cell phone law while driving those are bits and pieces that eventually will lead us to not being able to use cell phones.

Your #2 is straight fear propaganda bullshit in this instance. 

Who wants to ban cell phones?

There are politicians that are openly for taking away guns or talking about taking away guns, when you have people in the position to propose and pass legislation to take guns away...it isn't fear propaganda

[kh300]

California's magazine capacity is 10, so is New York.  Colorado's is 15.   Not sure why you stated "7 rounds"  In which state is it 7 rounds?

What Cumo said, doesn't mean much in this discussion because i am asking what exactly has been set into law.  I am sure we could dig up all sorts of stuff of what people say, but until laws are passed it don't me jack.

What California and other states are "always trying to make" is also moot in this discussion because we are talking about laws that have been passed and there will always be a group of peeps against all guns who will try and always pass stupid laws in most states.  Except prolly Montana, Wyoming, Kansas, etc.  

In my mind, keeping ammo and guns separated when traveling with them is not unreasonable and doesn't support your  "laws that make it so only rich people can have guns" argument.

Regarding your "sole purpose" argument.  This is gun regulation.   Some of it seems ok.  If you have a loaded gun in your house and have children you are an idiot.  It should be illegal.  If you don't have kids and want a loaded gun in your house how are the police going to know if they don't enough probable cause to search your house with a warrant?  This seems like something that doesn't need to get all up in arms about.

It seems like you are buying into right wing propaganda here.  You are off on magazine limits and don't seem to realize that 42 states don't have magazine limits.  

I am pro 2nd amendment.  Always will be.  But i don't see anything too out of line happening.  Maybe i am wrong.  But what i do see is a lot of fear propaganda when it comes to gun control.

NY state law is 7 rounds in the mag. But you can actually carry 8 if you have one in the chamber. Cumo even admitted they never thought of that before it passed, showing how little they know about guns.

[tonymctones]

NY state law is 7 rounds in the mag. But you can actually carry 8 if you have one in the chamber. Cumo even admitted they never thought of that before it passed, showing how little they know about guns.

it is funny to listen to these pro gun control people talking about guns bc inevitably they say something the shows they know nothing about them.

[OzmO]

NY state law is 7 rounds in the mag. But you can actually carry 8 if you have one in the chamber. Cumo even admitted they never thought of that before it passed, showing how little they know about guns.

Nope, its 10 rounds.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_New_York

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/albany/2013/12/8538119/judge-strikes-down-bullet-limit-upholds-law

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/01/nyregion/federal-judge-upholds-majority-of-new-york-gun-law.html?_r=0

[OzmO]

it is funny to listen to these pro gun control people talking about guns bc inevitably they say something the shows they know nothing about them.

What's funny is people's mass hysteria based on the absence of fact

[headhuntersix]

shot with a semi automatic weapon as opposed to what....they don't realize that semi auto means one pull one shot. If its a hand gun in 99.9% of the cases its friggen semi auto....its just a media phase to scare people. Most auto pistols go for like 5 grand and most class 3 license holders don't commit gun crimes. Guns like that are a collector oddity..like the Beretta M93R. They have one at my prefered gun store....I don't see the point.