Directed at me, this is an insult:
In other words: "I cannot support and defend the system of morals that I claim to live by."
You know I can defend my faith. This is just something to say because you're the type of person in which there must be a reply to everything.
It's not meant as an insult. From my perspective, you
cannot. Your defense boils down to: "believe what I believe first and then I can prove to you that what I say is true and defend my beliefs." Prove me wrong.
Other than ad hominem attacks (that aren't really ad hominem attacks **wink**) I don't see any glaring logical fallacies. I'm also not scrutinizing all that closely because I've already gone down most of these paths with you (in some form or fashion) in depth. Errors in arguments....when you contradict and/or invent things God would/should do because you say he should. Moving the goalposts on your criteria for definitions so all answers are permanently insufficient....it's your "word game" as I call it....it's a great tactic by the way. Conveniently not understanding examples or analogies as they pertain to God when clearly you do. Are they all fallacies? No. Are some tactics borderline or definite red herrings because some are meant as distraction? Yes. Have you done all of that within this thread? No, but again I'm not scrutinizing your posts all that closely and talked to you for years now.....I know what's up.
We've had lengthy discussions about all sorts of things and you reject almost everything I say. That's fine and you're free to do so. Why should I continue lengthy discussion? I've done the tit for tat, point for point, quote every line, respond to almost every word or phrase approach repeatedly with you. Back in May or June we did that over a period of almost 2 weeks....we've done it before that.....and before that.....I'm all God, you're no God...we know this. It's fine if you want to continue posting and discussing, but don't expect that same "level of service" from me. And because I don't don't insult me by saying I can't....you know I can. This is probably the longest reply I'll make. If you dissect and parse it so be it.....I won't do the same.
You certainly have engaged me in debate in the past and have tried to provide answers to my questions and to address my criticism. I certainly respect that.
Nobody is forcing you to continue debating this – or any topic – but I think that it speaks volumes that you cannot challenge the arguments I make without resorting to things along the lines of "well, many others believe this" and "if you believed
then you'd have proof."
You have your beliefs. Good for you. I respect your right to believe whatever you want to, as long as you don't try to force those beliefs down my throat or impose your divinely-inspired theory of morality on me. You aren't, and so we are perfectly fine.
But you can't expect me to not criticize you if you present your beliefs as based on facts; to question why your God obscures himself from view but demands worship; to ask why he offers us salvation through Jesus Christ when the thing he's saving us from is his own wrath. These are serious theological questions that go to the root your beliefs!
