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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2015, 11:13:47 AM »
ya stacks of doctored emails... you believe that she had something to do with this? or had some hand in it?

what specifically is her fault?

Those emails were sitting right there for everyone to see. If they thought they were doctored don't you think for one minute one those idiot dems would have requested to go through them?

'What specifically is her fault"? seriously? At the very LEAST gross negligence.

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2015, 11:21:22 AM »
Those hearings won't be her demise, it will be the FBI investigation. These hearings were about whether she knew about why she never did anything about the security or if she is TOTALLY incompetent. 


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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #27 on: October 23, 2015, 11:26:52 AM »
Gross Negligence
An indifference to, and a blatant violation of, a legal duty with respect to the rights of others.
Gross negligence is a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, which is likely to cause foreseeable grave injury or harm to persons, property, or both. It is conduct that is extreme when compared with ordinary Negligence, which is a mere failure to exercise reasonable care. Ordinary negligence and gross negligence differ in degree of inattention, while both differ from willful and wanton conduct, which is conduct that is reasonably considered to cause injury. This distinction is important, since contributory negligence—a lack of care by the plaintiff that combines with the defendant's conduct to cause the plaintiff's injury and completely bar his or her action—is not a defense to willful and wanton conduct but is a defense to gross negligence. In addition, a finding of willful and wanton misconduct usually supports a recovery of Punitive Damages, whereas gross negligence does not.
West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
gross negligence
n. carelessness in reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people's rights to safety. It is more than simple inadvertence, but it is just shy of being intentionally evil. If one has borrowed or contracted to take care of another's property, then gross negligence is the failure to actively take the care one would of his/her own property. If gross negligence is found by the trier of fact (judge or jury), it can result in the award of punitive damages on top of general and special damages. (See: negligence, damages, punitive damages)
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GROSS NEGLIGENCE. Lata culpa, or, as the Roman lawyers most accurately call it) dolo proxima, is, in practice, considered as equivalent to dolus or fraud itself, and consists, according to the best interpreters, in the omission of that care which even inattentive and thoughtless men never fail to take of their own property. Jones on Bailments, 20. It must not be confounded, however, with fraud, for it may exist consistently with good faith and honesty of intention, according to common law authorities.
A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #28 on: October 23, 2015, 11:32:45 AM »
Because dimwits like you will vote for her not knowing why just like you did Obama. Blind leading the blind or in this case the stupid leading the stupid.


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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #29 on: October 23, 2015, 11:33:54 AM »
gowdy admitted they got nothing new.

if he didn't accept this job knowing he could do anything other than "remind everyone", then he's ineffective and worthless.



you put in jason chaffertz, he'll be effective.  Gowdy was out of his league and all but vindicated her.  

and it's nuts for anyone to think she skates on benghazi but somehow gets busted for email server lol.

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2015, 12:35:03 PM »
VINDICATED.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.   

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #31 on: October 23, 2015, 01:22:50 PM »
Diary entry from Benghazi victim’s dad: ‘I gave Hillary a hug,’ she blamed filmmaker
By  Catherine Herridge,  Pamela Browne
Published October 23, 2015
FoxNews.com
 
A day after new records were made public showing Hillary Clinton said from the start the 2012 Benghazi attack was not linked to an obscure anti-Islam film, the father of a former Navy SEAL killed that night told Fox News she blamed the filmmaker for his son's death in a conversation with him.

Charles Woods, father of Ty Woods, who died defending the CIA annex, shared with Fox News the diary notes he took after his encounter with Clinton during the ceremony on Sept. 14, 2012, when the bodies were flown back to the U.S.

"I gave Hillary a hug and shook her hand. And she said we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son," the entry says.

"She said -- the filmmaker who was responsible for the death of your son," Woods emphasized as he read his diary entry. Woods attended Thursday's hearing where the former secretary of state testified to the Benghazi congressional committee.

"She wasn't saying the failed foreign policy that I was responsible for. It wasn't her taking the blame for it. It says we are going to place the responsibility [for] the death of your son on the filmmaker," he said.


Shown here are the notes Charles Woods took after meeting with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Woods' account of what Clinton told him contradicts what then-Secretary Clinton reported to her own family, as well as senior Libyan and Egyptian government officials.

Citing an email Clinton sent to her daughter Chelsea the night of the attack, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said at Thursday's hearing that she told them, "Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an Al Qaeda-like group.''

Further, Jordan said she told the Egyptian prime minister the next day that they knew the attack was "planned" and had "nothing to do with the film."

One day after then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice said on five Sunday talk shows that the attack grew out of a protest over the film, Fox News was first to report on Sept. 17, 2012, based on an intelligence source on the ground in Libya, that there was no protest outside the Benghazi consulate.

Yet, at the hearing, Clinton blamed the "fog of war" for confusion about what happened, and conflicting accounts, though her own statements to her family and foreign government leaders suggest otherwise.

And she pushed back on the notion that she directly blamed the video, stressing that she said in a statement that night that some had sought to use the video to justify the attack.

"I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks," she said.

She said they were dealing with "fluid" and "fast-moving" and "conflicting" information that night. She also said there were probably many motivations, suggesting the video may still have motivated some attackers.

Woods said Clinton either lied to her family and senior leaders of foreign governments, or to the victims' families and the American people. He said her lack of candor disqualifies Clinton from being promoted to the nation's top job.

"In order to follow a leader, as a commander-in-chief, the military needs to trust what their leader says. They're putting lives on the line. They have to know that what she says is true in order for them to be able to sacrifice their lives," Woods said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/23/diary-entry-from-benghazi-victims-dad-gave-hillary-hug-blamed-filmmaker/?intcmp=hpbt1

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2015, 01:31:29 PM »
Stephen Hayes: Benghazi Hearing Shows Hillary's Lies But Media Yawn At Revelation
By Ken Shepherd
October 22, 2015

"[T]he lead from the day so far is Hillary Clinton repeatedly offers false or misleading testimony, and journalists yawn," Stephen Hayes of the conservative Weekly Standard argued on tonight's edition of Fox News Channel's Special Report with Bret Baier.

Hayes then cited just one of many examples of evidence coming to light showing the then-Secretary of State was decidedly less-than-truthful at the very best in the aftermath of the fatal terrorist attack in Benghazi.

Here's the relevant transcript (h/t my colleague Curtis Houck):

FNC Special Report w/ Bret Baier Oct. 22, 2015; 6:08 p.m. Eastern -

STEPHEN HAYES, Weekly Standard: I would say the lead from the day so far is Hillary Clinton repeatedly offers false or misleading testimony, and journalists yawn. Journalists just don't seem to be that interested in what she's been saying. And I'll give you one example in particular. Secretary Clinton was presented with emails from Representative Jim Jordan. Um, an email that she sent to Hillary Clinton on the night of the attack, September 11, 2012. Saying that it was an Al Qaeda attack.

BRET BAIER, anchor: Sent to Chelsea.

STEPHEN HAYES: Sent to Chelsea Clinton, I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton to Chelsea Clinton. Saying it was an al Qaeda attack. And then this memo taken by a State Department note-taker. Recording a conversation between Hillary Clinton and the Egyptian Prime Minister September 12. In both of those instances, Hillary Clinton is saying this was an attack. This was not a protest. She said in the phone conversation with the Egyptian foreign minister and said that it had nothing to do with the video. And yet, two days later on September 14, when she greets the caskets at Joint Base Andrews in suburban Washington, D.C., she tells some of the family members of those killed in Benghazi that she and the government were determined to get the filmmaker who was responsible for the death of their children. You can't have it both ways. -

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ken-shepherd/2015/10/22/stephen-hayes-benghazi-hearing-shows-hillarys-lies-media-yawn#sthash.GVh20Gp5.dpuf

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2015, 01:59:12 PM »
The fucking brutal partisanship on display here is hilarious. Come back to reality when you get a chance.

now it's parents saying she said things during hugs, or that her foreign policy is to blame. As if some other foreign policy has ever stopped embassy attacks. In fact , Obama's tenure has seen far fewer then Bush.

It's like you need someone to blame, embassy's are dangerous places depending on the SEC

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2015, 02:08:42 PM »
Ok enough dude enough. Your bullshit understand of the world and how things work is fucking astounding. They asked for extra security over 600 times because they were conducting off the books movements and missions in order to support the growing rebel movement in Syria. This wasn't some consulate whining about sand bags. The mom in question was a dem, she wanted and is owed answers and fucking Hil and the gov lied...outright lied as to the cause of operation. The lie is so ridiculous it fell apart within  a few days.  Again she has failed to take any responsibility for any of this...fuck Obama's idiots tweeted yesterday that Obama didn't authorize the mission that freed hostages in Iraq and got a Delta guy killed. Nothing bad has ever been the fault of Obama or Hil...nobody ever got fired over what happened. When the Beiruit bombing killed all those Marines...PX Kelly was set to be the first Marine head of the Joint Chiefs...nope! Blame, how ever unconnected was assigned and people lost their jobs. Nobody is at the wheel in Washington, the world is on fire and you fucks could care less. You'd all shit yourselves if you ever encountered anything remotely like this.
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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2015, 02:12:51 PM »
She clearly lied when she blamed the attack on a youtube video and claimed the attack was by an angry mob (see 1:00 to 1:25 and 1:35):



Before she made the above statements, she said this:

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," said Jordan, Real Clear Politics reported. "Here's what you said at 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, 'Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaida- like group.' You tell — you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story. Also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him: 'Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.' It's interesting; Mr. Khattala, one of the guys arrested in charge actually belonged to that group. And finally, most significantly, the next day, within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. You told him this: 'We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.'"


Blatant dishonesty. 

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2015, 07:16:16 PM »
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Maybe you will get the results you want at the next hearing.  Or the 22nd one.


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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2015, 09:20:42 PM »
Facts mean nothing to liberals. they were raised and brainwashed with zero integrity, not knowing right from wrong. They never will.

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2015, 10:03:52 PM »
Facts mean nothing to liberals. they were raised and brainwashed with zero integrity, not knowing right from wrong. They never will.

this from a guy who says Obama is a Muslim...you're hypocrisy is astounding

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2015, 10:17:42 PM »
this from a guy who says Obama is a Muslim...you're hypocrisy is astounding

Keep searching. One day you'll see the light but then again if you're a lib your integrity will ALWAYS be in question. It's not too late to learn right from wrong.

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« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2015, 10:46:43 PM »
Keep searching. One day you'll see the light but then again if you're a lib your integrity will ALWAYS be in question. It's not too late to learn right from wrong.

I'm not a lib.. just interested in truth and facts.. something that seems to escape folks like you. Whether I WANT something to be true doesn't make it true.. something you should remember

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2015, 11:49:04 PM »
Repubs are mad because she told americans one motive, and gave our leaders another.  Yes, an american politician didn't reveal 100% of the facts to the people immediately.  So say it.  we don't want any info held back, nothing classified... we demand 100% transparency with everything.  no more closed door anything.  RIght?  ???  A terror group claimed responsibility, then took it back.   the govt fed us a bullshit narrative -

so either NO MORE LIES ON ANYTHING, or you accept bullshit sometimes as you sort it out.  Either is find, just freakin decide.

THEY ARE NOT MAD OVER A STANDOWN ORDER< AS THEY SHOULD BE!!

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #42 on: October 24, 2015, 12:10:16 AM »
I'm not a lib.. just interested in truth and facts.. something that seems to escape folks like you. Whether I WANT something to be true doesn't make it true.. something you should remember

They did present facts and all she came back with hear say. While Goudy and the repubs were showing facts in the of emails she presented nothing and changing her story during the hearings several times and contradicting herself. Before one of the recesses it was an attack after it was the video. For 10 + days the minions like Susan Rice were on a bunch of networks saying it was a video. Later that was proven and admitted to be complete bullshit.

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« Reply #43 on: October 24, 2015, 12:38:15 AM »
They did present facts and all she came back with hear say. While Goudy and the repubs were showing facts in the of emails she presented nothing and changing her story during the hearings several times and contradicting herself. Before one of the recesses it was an attack after it was the video. For 10 + days the minions like Susan Rice were on a bunch of networks saying it was a video. Later that was proven and admitted to be complete bullshit.

I'm not addressing whether she lied or not, I'm addressing your hypocrisy of "Facts mean nothing to libs.." and you are adamant Obama is a Muslim in spite of the evidence he is not. Where is YOUR integrity?

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2015, 01:04:14 AM »
MIAMI — Donald Trump came out swinging after two Iowa polls found his numbers slipping behind Ben Carson, and on Friday he attacked the retired retired neurosurgeon on his use of super PAC money

Trump told a few thousand attendees at his Doral resort that he’s not going anywhere — and that he isn’t so sure about the veracity of those poll numbers.

“I love Iowa,” Trump said. “I honestly think those polls are wrong.” Trump then said that the two polling groups responsible for the numbers, Quinnipiac and Bloomberg, “do not like me.”

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2015, 04:31:22 AM »
Ok enough dude enough. Your bullshit understand of the world and how things work is fucking astounding. They asked for extra security over 600 times because they were conducting off the books movements and missions in order to support the growing rebel movement in Syria. This wasn't some consulate whining about sand bags. The mom in question was a dem, she wanted and is owed answers and fucking Hil and the gov lied...outright lied as to the cause of operation. The lie is so ridiculous it fell apart within  a few days.  Again she has failed to take any responsibility for any of this...fuck Obama's idiots tweeted yesterday that Obama didn't authorize the mission that freed hostages in Iraq and got a Delta guy killed. Nothing bad has ever been the fault of Obama or Hil...nobody ever got fired over what happened. When the Beiruit bombing killed all those Marines...PX Kelly was set to be the first Marine head of the Joint Chiefs...nope! Blame, how ever unconnected was assigned and people lost their jobs. Nobody is at the wheel in Washington, the world is on fire and you fucks could care less. You'd all shit yourselves if you ever encountered anything remotely like this.




You mean the funding the HOUSE GOP cut funding for? get your fucking facts right before you tell someone they don't understand something, the house denied Obama's full request. Are you just being made aware of Benghazi? you have no jumped from (in multiple threads) a stand down order (ONE WAS NEVER GIVEN), funding which was the right's fault, and now the video etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html

So now your outrage is about this mother, you sound like a child, she wants answers. Maybe there were no accurate ones at the time, perhaps people where actually doing their job and trying to sort things out. Why does it matter if a video or something else did it to her anyway? her son was killed by horrible people, in a situation that was extremely dangerous and yet he went on his own volition.

The emails (before you go there) are shown to be doctored, they would not release the full transcripts yet you still trust them? these are the people who feed you the stand down lie, the lie about funding, the 8 hearings, the freudian slip of stating this was all political, wasting 4.5 million for a political witch hunt (9/11 had 2 hearsing LMAO).

You need to grow up and come to the real world, the one where the government doesn't exist, you don't have to follow what others say, and you think for yourself (may never happen). True enlightenment as Kant stated is in man using his own reason. You probably work for someone, take orders and follow.


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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2015, 06:57:52 AM »
Facts mean nothing to liberals. they were raised and brainwashed with zero integrity, not knowing right from wrong. They never will.

Facts?  Oh you mean those things that hurt you like sunlight hurts vampires?   Birther.  HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2015, 07:07:05 AM »
Hmmm....so Hillary Clinton is responsible for their deaths eh???  Amazing how she was able to go to Libya and shoot mortar rounds and lead the terrorist to storm the compound.... ::)
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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2015, 12:50:50 PM »
She clearly lied when she blamed the attack on a youtube video and claimed the attack was by an angry mob (see 1:00 to 1:25 and 1:35):



Before she made the above statements, she said this:

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," said Jordan, Real Clear Politics reported. "Here's what you said at 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, 'Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaida- like group.' You tell — you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story. Also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him: 'Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.' It's interesting; Mr. Khattala, one of the guys arrested in charge actually belonged to that group. And finally, most significantly, the next day, within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. You told him this: 'We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.'"


Blatant dishonesty. 






It;s called conjecture, she was not lying if she was informed to provide the narrative for strategic purposes, or say she didn't have all the information. Is this the reason for your anger? this is worth 4.5million dollars of tax payer money?

Grow up.



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Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
« Reply #49 on: October 24, 2015, 02:16:38 PM »
Hmmm....so Hillary Clinton is responsible for their deaths eh???  Amazing how she was able to go to Libya and shoot mortar rounds and lead the terrorist to storm the compound.... ::)

She's has full credit for their deaths.  Even though she didn't pull the trigger herself or was even there.
Obama gets no credit for Bin Laden.   Even though he didn't pull the trigger himself or was even there.

Republican logic....